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Japan Tsunami & various 3:11 verses of the Bible

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posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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There are so many discussion forums here I wasn't sure where to post this thread. First off, I'm not a religious person, so even though this topic has elements from the Bible, it's not about religion...just what was written in this book long ago.

Many people think the tsunami that struck Japan earlier this year wasn't really a "natural" disaster. I don't know and at this point nothing can be done about it now to reverse the damage. What is done is done. Anyhow, the whole point of this thread is to share with you a thought that entered my head this morning. I found similar threads but none this specific.

Again, I'm not a religious person but I do know the names of the various "books" in the Bible (John, Mark, Acts, Matthew, Revelations, etc.) So... for whatever reason, John 3:16 popped in my head this morning while I was looking at the Google map area of Santa Cruz, CA and I remembered the tsunami made it's way over here. I then recalled it happened on March 11 and began thinking about how people believe HAARP was responsible and how the Illuminati and (terrorist groups?) use significant dates and or number combinations

Anyhow, without boring you any further with my ramblings, this is what I found:



Zephaniah 3:11
New International Version (©1984)
On that day you will not be put to shame for all the wrongs you have done to me, because I will remove from this city those who rejoice in their pride. Never again will you be haughty on my holy hill.

King James Bible
In that day shalt thou not be ashamed for all thy doings, wherein thou hast transgressed against me: for then I will take away out of the midst of thee them that rejoice in thy pride, and thou shalt no more be haughty because of my holy mountain.

2 Peter 3:11
New International Version (©1984)
Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives

King James Bible
[Seeing] then [that] all these things shall be dissolved, what manner [of persons] ought ye to be in [all] holy conversation and godliness,

1 Thessalonians 3:11
New International Version (©1984)
Now may our God and Father himself and our Lord Jesus clear the way for us to come to you.

King James Bible
Now God himself and our Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, direct our way unto you.

Joel 3:11
New International Version (©1984)
Come quickly, all you nations from every side, and assemble there. Bring down your warriors, O Lord!

King James Bible
Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.

1 Thessalonians 3:11
New International Version (©1984)
Now may our God and Father himself and our Lord Jesus clear the way for us to come to you.

King James Bible
Now God himself and our Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, direct our way unto you.

Philippians 3:11
New International Version (©1984)
and so, somehow, to attain to the resurrection from the dead.

King James Bible
If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

1 John 3:11
New International Version (©1984)
This is the message you heard from the beginning: We should love one another.

King James Bible
King James Bible
For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

James 3:11
New International Version (©1984)
Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring?

King James Bible
Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet [water] and bitter?

Amos 3:11
New International Version (©1984)
Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: "An enemy will overrun the land; he will pull down your strongholds and plunder your fortresses."

King James Bible
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; An adversary [there shall be] even round about the land; and he shall bring down thy strength from thee, and thy palaces shall be spoiled

Lamentations 3:11
New International Version (©1984)
he dragged me from the path and mangled me and left me without help.

King James Bible
He hath turned aside my ways, and pulled me in pieces: he hath made me desolate.

Daniel 3:11
New International Version (©1984)
and that whoever does not fall down and worship will be thrown into a blazing furnace.

King James Bible
And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth, [that] he should be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.

Matthew 3:11
New International Version (©1984)
"I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.

King James Bible
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and [with] fire:

source: bible.cc...


And to be fair and honest, I didn't site any passages from 3:10 or 3:12. The quotes above are literally taken out of context, however, I find it fascinating how some of the words can relate to the tragedy, the aftermath and how people came together after said incident. But this being said, I just had an argument with my wife about this. She can't handle this type of "negative vampire" talk. This type of stuff interests me and I thought she was someone that could handle these subjects but I've come to realize it's too much for her.




posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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Dude, the bible is meaningless. Just a bunch of vague crap written down and mistranslated for centuries and used to control half the world and spread war and suffering. I guess a few fables might have some vague basis in truth just like old wives tales but when it comes to prophecy, it holds absolutely no credibility.



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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Mixing doom with the bible, no wonder they talk about blasphemy. Good lord. I just read this and I'm still lost.
The bible is vague as I don't know what. The only thing you got was destruction and 3/11.
Isn't destruction half the bible ?



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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"seedofchucky . ATS Version 3:11

The water shall override the land of japan , and bring forth the energy of the super light poisining the the remaining people."



Hey since we can find so many differnt versions of the bible why can't i add my two cents?



If you see god could you please tell him to send me one approved authorized version instead of all these differnt versions that anyone can add there two cents into and dare call it inspirational


k thanks



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 09:15 AM
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If you look hard enough, you can find 'connections' everywhere. Just depends how you interpret them. Here is another for you:

Revelations 9:11
New International Version
They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer).

King James Version
And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

And what wikipedia says about Abaddon:

Abaddon (Hebrew: אֲבַדּוֹן‎, 'Ǎḇaddōn, Greek: Apollyon, Latin: Exterminans, Coptic: Abbaton, meaning "A place of destruction", "The Destroyer", "Depths of Hell") in the Revelation of St. John, is the king of tormenting locusts and the angel of the bottomless pit.[1] The exact nature of Abaddon is debated, but the Hebrew word is related to the triliteral root אבד (ABD), which in verb form means "to perish."


In the Hebrew scriptures, Abaddon comes to mean "place of destruction," or the realm of the dead, and is associated with Sheol.


It is easy to see some sort of a connection 'after' the event.

st.



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posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by Logman
Dude, the bible is meaningless. Just a bunch of vague crap written down and mistranslated for centuries and used to control half the world and spread war and suffering. I guess a few fables might have some vague basis in truth just like old wives tales but when it comes to prophecy, it holds absolutely no credibility.


Dudes like this just sit and wait for anyone to post anything with the world Bible in it so they can jump on it and spout their beliefs. Good work!



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 09:29 AM
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interesting catch there.


i kept meaning to do thread on the bible. i'm convinced we have got this all wrong. kinda wonder is it really satans handbook for the 10thousand years he rules the world or however long its meant to be.

there is something very dark about life on this planet. try having a disscusion about this and you will be told to stop being so negative.

i think what it comes down to is , people are so afraid to face the truth. the truth of the situation we might actually be in right now. some people try and pretend they know whats going on here and what it is all about , but we all know thats not true. we all know that no one has a goddam clue why we are here and where exactly this is?????



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 09:32 AM
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coming from a religious background, I guess you can appreciate that such a history book still exists so many years after it's creation. But the fact is that the powers that be have always altered it to their satisfaction, changed stories, dates, and even names. I feel it's still something to refer to. If he did leave this book for us, it isn't his fault people seeking the best way to control the masses raped the book to the point of confusion.

Thanks for the post

edit on 05/20/2011 by visinequeen because: color edit



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by JohnySeagull
interesting catch there.


i kept meaning to do thread on the bible. i'm convinced we have got this all wrong. kinda wonder is it really satans handbook for the 10thousand years he rules the world or however long its meant to be.

there is something very dark about life on this planet. try having a disscusion about this and you will be told to stop being so negative.

i think what it comes down to is , people are so afraid to face the truth. the truth of the situation we might actually be in right now. some people try and pretend they know whats going on here and what it is all about , but we all know thats not true. we all know that no one has a goddam clue why we are here and where exactly this is?????


Afraid to face the truth ? What world are you living in ? I'm far aware, we are screwed. In the end we will still be screwed, why does it matter ?



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by JohnySeagull
interesting catch there.


i kept meaning to do thread on the bible. i'm convinced we have got this all wrong. kinda wonder is it really satans handbook for the 10thousand years he rules the world or however long its meant to be.

there is something very dark about life on this planet. try having a disscusion about this and you will be told to stop being so negative.

i think what it comes down to is , people are so afraid to face the truth. the truth of the situation we might actually be in right now. some people try and pretend they know whats going on here and what it is all about , but we all know thats not true. we all know that no one has a goddam clue why we are here and where exactly this is?????



I completely agree lol, you literally sound like me. I think if just a few ppl who are familiar with the bible would read the Quran, even a few pages, you'll feel a sense of clarity, so well written and unchanged. this book has survived changes and time, it's worth reading and worth discussing. some of us are too happy and complacent with the "world" we live in today to see that this is not what was meant for us. I'm not necessarily religious, just saying how I feel.



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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Honestly these verses are not specific at all, so these verses could mean anything and can be interpreted many ways. The bibles predictions are so unspecific that anyone could sit there and write predictions not giving a date to when it will happen and the odds are it will happen but it would take time.



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by Logman
Dude, the bible is meaningless. Just a bunch of vague crap written down and mistranslated for centuries and used to control half the world and spread war and suffering. I guess a few fables might have some vague basis in truth just like old wives tales but when it comes to prophecy, it holds absolutely no credibility.

If the bible is meaningless and a bunch of crap, why respond and tell me? Why respond at all.

The whole point of my post is that it was based on something I "thought" this morning and when I crossed referenced what I was thinking, I found words (whether crap, meaningless or whatever, but they were written way beyond the even of 03/11/11) that made sense to me and I just wanted to share this. But if you're closed minded, then please, thank you, but move along. I already said these words were taken out of context.



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by jjkenobi

Originally posted by Logman
Dude, the bible is meaningless. Just a bunch of vague crap written down and mistranslated for centuries and used to control half the world and spread war and suffering. I guess a few fables might have some vague basis in truth just like old wives tales but when it comes to prophecy, it holds absolutely no credibility.


Dudes like this just sit and wait for anyone to post anything with the world Bible in it so they can jump on it and spout their beliefs. Good work!


It makes me wonder why someone like that would even bother being on a conspiracy board if they're going to be closed minded. Same with the other responders that have to state the obvious... like I don't already know that pretty much anything can be read into?! I know this, and 99.999% of everyone on this board knows this. But to have the balls to mention it in the face of ridicule...oh well...DUDE.
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posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by SatoriTheory

It is easy to see some sort of a connection 'after' the event.

st.


It would be a little difficult to make a connection "before" the event, wouldn't it? I believe so. And to be honest, I wasn't trying to go there with 9/11, but thanks. I'm sure if I did some search on 4/20 I could find a bunch of stuff too, but this is off topic. This topic is about a thought that came to me this morning about the tsunami on 3/11 and if I could find any relevant subject in the bible and you and and every other naysayer can not deny that there is correlation. Whether you accept it or not, it is not subject to your personal belief. I don't hold any personal beliefs in it myself, however, I can not deny what I read. For example, what I quote above:

Matthew 3:11 - I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize.


I can not give a squirt of piss regarding the bible, but like I keep pointing out, I'm not going to deny what I just read, regardless if it's mumbo jumbo, or if I'm reading into it, or if it's meaningless. I won't deny the existence of the written word if I read it whether it be the truth or not.
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posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by JohnySeagull
i kept meaning to do thread on the bible. i'm convinced we have got this all wrong. kinda wonder is it really satans handbook for the 10thousand years he rules the world or however long its meant to be.

there is something very dark about life on this planet. try having a disscusion about this and you will be told to stop being so negative.


I have thought along those lines as well. For the duration of our life, our souls are trapped inside a physical body, a body that can feel all sorts of pain, mental/physical. We are able to inflict pain easily onto to others.
We are 'encouraged' to trap more souls in these physical bodies through the pleasurable action of sex. Resulting in the creation of more physical bodies, trapping more soul (god) in the physical realm, therefore weaking the true god.

I wouldn't say I am convinced though. It's just a thought I have had.

An open mind would be willing to accept that the 'Bible' could be Satan's great deception over mankind.

st.



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by BishopLord
It would be a little difficult to make a connection "before" the event, wouldn't it? I believe so.

I wouldn't say so. I would say if there was a possibility that the bible could predict future events, then it should be possible to make a connection. But sadly it is kind of vague, which means the interpretations could be applied to a lot of things.


And to be honest, I wasn't trying to go there with 9/11, but thanks.

Why weren't you wanting to go there? They are both big events, both resulted in large loss of life. Why comment about one and want to avoid another?


I can not give a squirt of piss regarding the bible,

Then why do you read it?

You seem a little over sensitive Mr BishopLord. Just because people don't immediately agree with you, doesn't mean they are not listening and thinking about what you have to say.

st.



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by JohnySeagull
interesting catch there.


i kept meaning to do thread on the bible. i'm convinced we have got this all wrong. kinda wonder is it really satans handbook for the 10thousand years he rules the world or however long its meant to be.

there is something very dark about life on this planet. try having a disscusion about this and you will be told to stop being so negative.

i think what it comes down to is , people are so afraid to face the truth. the truth of the situation we might actually be in right now. some people try and pretend they know whats going on here and what it is all about , but we all know thats not true. we all know that no one has a goddam clue why we are here and where exactly this is?????

I didn't mean for this topic to be a religious topic (hence, I would have posted this thread in the the religious forum)... just referencing the bible because I know it has "written words" with chapters, verses, etc. If I had easy access to say... a Stephen King novel, I'll look at chapter 3 verse 11 in his books as well, but I don't have access. This comment is really towards the other poster that made a comment about making connections with pretty much anything or whatever he said, or however I interpreted what he said, LOL.

But anyhow, I like your response. I feel that you are on the same wavelength as me. What upset my wife was exactly as you said. She is tired of the negativity of conspiracy theories, illuminati, etc. She is tired of how negative things are and how they don't correlate to the "big picture" (i.e. they have nothing to do with paying our bills, putting food on the table, etc. etc.) yet at the same frickin' time, she don't want to be disturbed in the morning when she first wakes up because talking is too much to relate to so early in the morning, so she'll sit with her coffee and watch her DVR programs of "Real Housewives", some other reality shows like "Top Model", "Bridezillas", "Bad Girls Club" and now Season 4 of True Blood. Really? She can't handle the negativity of certain subjects yet she subjects herself to that B.S. on TV? Or loves animals and is basically a PETA person, yet eats meat? Not pork or beef, but chicken, turkey and fish. I'm tired of her double standards. She feels these topics are too much for her to handle. I'm fine with that. I needed to hear her say this because I was really tired of her playing along trying to humor me. I could see it on her face as soon as I started trying to say something. I'd rather her be truthful with me as at least it lets me know whom I'm talking to. I mean damn, she's the one that opened my eyes to all this and spoke about the "energy" out there, "syncronicities", etc. Here is a woman with tattoos of an eye of fricken Horus on her hand, some sort of Hindu OHM or OM of her neck and an amulet on her upper arm that looks like twin snakes and she can't handle talking about these subjects anymore? Perhaps I do talk about these subjects too much lately. I guess I need another outlet or someone else to talk to.



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by SatoriTheory

Originally posted by BishopLord
It would be a little difficult to make a connection "before" the event, wouldn't it? I believe so.

I wouldn't say so. I would say if there was a possibility that the bible could predict future events, then it should be possible to make a connection. But sadly it is kind of vague, which means the interpretations could be applied to a lot of things.


And to be honest, I wasn't trying to go there with 9/11, but thanks.

Why weren't you wanting to go there? They are both big events, both resulted in large loss of life. Why comment about one and want to avoid another?


I can not give a squirt of piss regarding the bible,

Then why do you read it?

You seem a little over sensitive Mr BishopLord. Just because people don't immediately agree with you, doesn't mean they are not listening and thinking about what you have to say.

st.


Well, I didn't want to go there about 9/11 because this topic isn't about 9/11. We can go on forever about 9/11.. you know what I saying? (I know you know... but I just had to say that..) So I wanted to just keep the subject on topic. 3/11. Not 9/11. Not 4/20. Not 5/01 (may day), either. Just 3/11.

I never said I read the bible. I said I know of it and know of several books of the bible. Everybody that is literate knows of the bible and it's easy to reference, especially on the internet. And besides, like I keep stressing in my topics, it was something that popped into my mind this morning.

I'm a little sensitive because I had an argument with my wife, so please, forgive, I'm sorry.. LOL. But I was hoping that a conspiracy board like ATS would have more opened minded people. Sure, agree to disagree, but that is one of the problems I'm having with my wife. It's not a matter of her feelings on the subject (me) or injecting your personal feelings or thoughts on my thoughts. But I understand everyone has a need to add their .02 cents and I guess I have to accept it and move on, or just not open my mouth or say anything.. but I'm not that type of person. I know it would be difficult to filter such a thing on a forum board, but that is where a person's own impulse control should kick in...whether or not they can contain their urge to stay on topic, or just read the thread as BS and not respond and click on another subject. I don't know... I'm kind of rambling right now... so my bad. I was just hoping that people would have taken the topic as is, not read into it and add more topics like 9/11 or state the Bible is this or that. The topic was just a thought that entered my mind. I should have known better to say anything about the Bible as it's such a touch subject that easily offends people.



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by SatoriTheory
We are 'encouraged' to trap more souls in these physical bodies through the pleasurable action of sex. Resulting in the creation of more physical bodies, trapping more soul (god) in the physical realm, therefore weaking the true god.


I never heard of such a comment. Can you elaborate on 1) Creating more physical bodies via sex. 2) Trapping more soul(?) in the phsyical realm and weakening the 'true' God? Sounds deep, but I never heard such a thing.


An open mind would be willing to accept that the 'Bible' could be Satan's great deception over mankind.

st.


Possibly so... however, since there already is a Satanic bible, and other bibles that deal with the dark arts, then this means that there would truly be no "Holy" Bible. I'm not talking about the Koran, or other books similar to the "Bible", I'm referring to the big book, most notably known as The King James version. Jeez, did I quote the New World Translations above? If so, my bad. I have something against J Dubs.

But who knows, if this book really is Satan's book, then I can understand that. Satan/Lucifer is or was both angel and demon. People today use this book in the name of God and supposed for "good" purposes, but it can be argued that various "churches" or "religious" turn out to be nefarious in their ways. So IMHO on this subject, just because this version of "The Bible" is used by supposedly "good" people doesn't necessarily mean it's a "good" book (even if it is referenced as such). It's a book of stories written by men, mostly edited and reinterpreted stories.



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by BishopLord
I'm a little sensitive because I had an argument with my wife, so please, forgive, I'm sorry.. LOL.

Ah, understood. No problem there. Probably best to give the good woman a hug and say sorry, they like that!


When I first stumbled upon this forum, I couldn't believe how negative a lot of people are, how they only seem to see the negative side of things. If you get sucked into it, it can have a very negative effect. Hopefully your wife can keep you grounded in reality.

As for what you originally posted. I can see the similarities. However, as you have gathered, I think it just happens to be a coincidence on this occasion.

st.




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