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Originally posted by jonibelle
I know my joke on the first page was of bad taste but I couldn't help it. Am I making an excuse? No. But because I made the joke does it mean I think these men and women deserve to be sexually abused and assaulted? Definitely not. I wish no such thing on my worst enemy.edit on 30-6-2011 by jonibelle because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by iSwag
Originally posted by Drezden
Joking about prison rape, even in a minor way like you have is part of the problem. That's why it's not taken seriously. We need to protect people FFS.. not joke.
I'm joking about it because that's what's gonna keep me out of prison...
Not tryna have Big Bubba corner me in my cell and have you-know-what happen to me.edit on Wed Jun 29 2011 by DontTreadOnMe because: BIG QUOTE REMOVED
It is estimated that there are over 300,000 instances of prison rape a year.
196,000 are estimated to happen to men in prison
123,000 are estimated to happen to men in county jail.
40,000 are estimated to be committed against boys in either adult prisons or while in juvenile facilities or lock ups.
5000 women are estimated to be raped in prison.
Remember that these are all estimates. Most rapes are not reported.
Sexual attacks in prison are considered rape when penetration occurs. It is estimated that inmates are approached with unwanted sexual advances over 80,000 times per day in the United States alone.
Keep in mind that many experts consider county and local jails to be more likely places for rapes than prisons. There is a reason for this. You are more likely to be raped while in prison if:
You are young.
You come from a middle-class background.
You are white.
You are not street smart or have no gang affiliations.
Physically you are of small stature.
By the time repeat or career criminals get to prison they have normally made the circuit through foster homes, juvenile lockups and reform schools where rape is very common. So by the time they actually make it to the big time they are well schooled in this fact of prison life and quite often they are the attackers not the attackees.
This guide is for the person who has never done any kind of time. Do not think that rape will only happen in prison. If you have to go to county jail prior to your trial and while awaiting transfer to prison, a sexual attack is very likely to occur there. This can all depend on the area you live in. If you are in a rural area with a small jail, of course the chances will drop. But if you are in a metro area, Los Angeles County, New York’s Rikers Island, Miami’s Dade, and Chicago’s Cook being among the worst, your chances of being raped are going to skyrocket.
Especially, and this is not a racist statement, if you are white. Consider that of the total number of estimated prison rapes:
13% involved white inmates raping white inmates
29% involved black inmates raping black inmates.
56% involved black inmates raping white inmates.
This comes to a grand total of 85% of prison rapes being committed by blacks, with 69% of the victims being white. The rapes of white inmates are normally done by gangs of blacks and somewhat in the open so that other inmates, but not staff, can witness the attacks. The blacks involved are generally in the joint for crimes such as armed robbery or severe assault cases.
One of the reasons for this situation is that whites lack solidarity while in prison and unlike the population on the outside, are the minority on the inside.
Scenario #1. A white middle-class man, let’s say a car dealer, is picked up for sale of coc aine, and is locked into a communal cell with four black inmates, all whom have done substantial amounts of time in prison. The white man is of small stature and has no street smarts. The chances of him being raped:. Damn near 100%.
Scenario #2. Same situation only this time the white is a solid member of a biker gang that has ties to inside the prison walls. He himself has been in several times. Chances of rape in this situation: Practically zero. The black inmates are smart enough to know that they may be able to out muscle this man and rape him, but the long-term ramifications are not worth it. Without even talking to this man, the blacks’ years of experience in prison will give them the sense to leave him alone.
While I was an officer in Moose Lake/Willow River (Minnesota) prison I worked a unit that held two Native Americans, one black, one Asian, a younger white inmate, and an older seasoned inmate. When it finally came to the attention of the staff, it turned out that the young white inmate had been raped repeatedly over several months by the black and Indian inmates, but not by the Asian or the older inmate. It also turned out that no advances had ever been made toward either of those two. Note that the seasoned inmate did not join in on the rapes, but never tried to stop it either. That is just the way things are in prison. There is no brotherhood of man when you walk inside those gate
Originally posted by SeventhSeal
Maybe these criminals who are "sexually abused" in prisons shouldn't have committed crimes such as rape, child molestation, murder, or assault.
Just putting it out there
Originally posted by Boogeyman1976
So.....everyone is feeling sorry for these inmates? I work in a prison and we do everything we can to prevent this kind of stuff. Ever hear of the Prison Rape Elimination Act? I'm guessing most of you haven't. While I agree some crimes shouldn't necessarily get you put in prison, the reason things like prison rape happen is because you have a bunch of selfish, manipulative, degenerates in one place. They don't care about the well being of other inmates just like they didn't care about the well being of their victims. I'm not saying everyone in prison is crap, but work in one and you will quickly realize that most are and they won't change. Sorry if that is politically incorrect and rubs some people the wrong way, but the truth is the truth. Back in the day, most of these people would have been "taken care of" and they would no longer be a threat to innocent people, but as long as there are all these bleeding hearts, citizens will continue to be victimized by these people...if you can call them that.
Originally posted by jonibelle
I know, it was inappropriate, but I couldn't help myself.
And jokes aren't why the issue isn't taken seriously. It's the fact that it's PRISON.
You know those big places surrounded by electric fences with "top notch" security 24/7. The place designed to keep vile humans out of our society, are kept? I don't think doing time means you should get raped, but no one feels bad for a bad guy =/
Originally posted by iSwag
It's totally under my control. It's me who makes the decisions, inevitably choosing where I will go in my life....
Therefore I avoid those decisions that risk my freedom.