Why is the NWO so long in coming about, even before aliester crowley in llike 1875 were people tryin

So if they haven't been successful yet, what makes anyone think they ever will be.

I mean, I guess if they could unite everyone all under one currency then that would help. I guess that is what they are trying to do now with the global economy colapse. (I still hold that it is impossible for EVERY industry in almost Every country to be in the red, without it being intentionally set up that way)

This is the first time in history it would be possible to unite everyone under one currency.

But still, why haven't they succeeded yet if they are really such BMF that they will stop at nothing to get what they want you would think they would have done it by now.

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It's a lot more than that though... to bring in the changes they want and the new systems of control they have to take lots of little steps, if they did it in one foul swoop people would oppose it straight away.

Instead doing it all bit by bit through a means of stealth/sleep walking the populace into it they ensure they get what they want.

What they are doing also takes a lot of planning and measures have to be put in place for a wider action to be able to come about.

They can't just impose it, you have to get the people to accept it. I believe that's what we're witnessing now.

What does 'Aleister Crowley' have to do with anything?

And the 'World Banks' pretty much control the world anyway, which are owned by the Rothschild Bloodline,

The NWO goes way back, definitely before the "wickedest man in the world" could walk. Further back than the earliest days of colonialism in America (the New World), even further back than the New Testament (New Law)...

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I think the simple answer is obvious: because they faced opposition.

Most of us today assume they are "winning." But in this universe, that is a relative term. The "NWO" are themselves the victims of an ancient slavery-oriented approach to social control. They have been given extremely compelling reasons to believe that they are the chosen slave-controllers for this planet and that it is their "god-given" duty to bring this planet back under the control of the proper power hierarchies. Yet they may only be serving as tools towards this end. Cultivated for this purpose, perhaps, because of their insanity, they may not really be capable of long-term rule.

Many of the rest of us are unaware of this whole arrangement, or if we are think it's a lot of BS.

And this opposition runs all the way up to their levels. They seem to have the upper hand because they control (apparently) international banking. But I am not totally convinced that their "victory" is a done deal.

Other characteristics often attributed to them are patience and persistence. But their opponents have this, too. The huge gap is in the area of knowledge. It was always considered an unspoken rule among the elites to keep their squabbles to themselves. And they have been quite successful with this. Yet I believe that the NWO is nervous on this point. Various revelations about them have been made public, and their only way to fight these is to discredit their believability and their sources. General public awareness of the NWO will tend to delay or defeat their plans. Whether that awareness will include better solutions for our planetary problems than the NWO had remains to be seen. But I must say that if I must fall in battle, I would prefer to know what hit me.

would a one world goverment really be that bad? i no i no thats what they want me to think but if there was

the world might just be a better place, surely it would bring peace and stability after some opposing goverments are ousted

do away with all the big corporations and go back to when it was the local owned shops butchers petrol stations bakers etc etc

this way thousands of peoples lively hoods dont depend on this one single huge company that if goes bust thousands of jobs are at risk like what is happening right now

we could get rid of all nuclear arms then thers no risk of a catastphic war that will make us the next great extintion

just a few thoughts i had while i sit here with me scooby snacks

The bigger you are the harder it is to hide. There is some thing fundamentally wrong with the world. Someone some where is pulling the strings. It seems like they won't be happy till we are all on our knees. Joke is on them because the human animal is, cunning, imaginative and very dangerous when cornered.

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Personally, I think we are already under a world order and have been for awhile. What I think is being put into place right now is the final pieces to the recognition and legitimacy of the world order. We already have been under a one world economic system for a while. There is already a one world language--the language of business. There is already a one world social system in place that says freedom, peace, fairness yet does the opposite. There is already control of multi-national corporations that seem to run the governments of the world, even when the people want nothing to do with it. There is already a world police force, a world court, a world bank. All the pieces are there. Then final step comes down to legitimizing the world order as an entity, something that can be easily identified, something that will act as a person and entity, something tangible that has a mouth and can direct the nations in a common purpose.

The order that is perpetuating this does not seem to have the peoples intentions at heart; rather, it is about profiting and mass accumulation of resources into some fair competition system which the average person will have no part in. It is a design of the mega rich, the controllers of wealth, the greedy, and the hypocrites. They will yell PEACE and declare war. They will say FREEDOM and deliver slavery. They will say LIBERTY and place constraints on your freewill. They will scream PROSPERITY and you will be less prosperous then ever.

I have nothing against a world order, but I oppose any world order designed by the same people who have throughout history controlled governments. I say the people have much better ideas then politicians. The people have better solutions to problems versus corporations who are motivated by profiting. If there was a one world government that really could accomplish PEACE, FREEDOM, LIBERTY, and PROSPERITY then it is not to be found with our current wealthy, influential, and powerful participants in our current system.

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I agree. And we must also remember, the present power structure has been in place for a very long time. And they are very patient. They follow the plan to the letter, one step at a time. Making adjustments as needed along the way. And unlike us, they have observed and studied, and know their enemy(us) very well.

The closest they got was NOW, previously the closest they got was during the 1920s and 30s but then the national socialist movement under Adolf Hitler rose to power and unveiled the elite/banker agenda which pushed them back and forced them to operate from under the curtain, this only made their job longer as they had to use puppets who always seem to fail them.

Originally posted by ExPostFacto
Personally, I think we are already under a world order and have been for awhile.

Exactly.

Keeping control is a constant escalation.

Originally posted by Darth_Prime
What does 'Aleister Crowley' have to do with anything?

And the 'World Banks' pretty much control the world anyway, which are owned by the Rothschild Bloodline,

Um, he was the evil inspiration to a lot of the illuminati rituals and stuff. They aren't just about money they are a Satanic cult. Well, branches at least. As so far in the music industry and other places where they can put propganda into minds. And in thier secret societies.

He influenced a lot of people he has his own frippin library in south texas somewhere at a college

Originally posted by siren8

Originally posted by Darth_Prime
What does 'Aleister Crowley' have to do with anything?

And the 'World Banks' pretty much control the world anyway, which are owned by the Rothschild Bloodline,

Um, he was the evil inspiration to a lot of the illuminati rituals and stuff. They aren't just about money they are a Satanic cult. Well, branches at least. As so far in the music industry and other places where they can put propganda into minds. And in thier secret societies.

He influenced a lot of people he has his own frippin library in south texas somewhere at a college

Come off it, seriously all this 'Satanic Cult' is getting tiresome

The 'Occult' is not 'Satanic', Satanist don't even 'Worship Satan',

If the 'Music Industry' was truly under the 'Satanic Cult' how come we have people saying the 'Rapture' Will begin and all these 'Bible Prophecies'? are they 'Above' the Influence? can they not be 'Controlled' because they believe in this Alleged "God"?

same with 'Moving Pictures' have you seen any from the 30's 40's 50's? they have no 'Eye Of Horus' so when did the 'Satanic Cult' commence it's influence on the 'Music' and 'Picture' Industry?

i'll tell you when, when it become 'Fashionable' to be 'Edgy' when they knew if they wore an 'Eye Of Horus' or utilized 'Occult Symbols' they would seem 'Rebellious' and appeal to their Target Audience, i bet most of them don't even know the meanings behind the 'Symbolism'

how come 'Religious Bands' are still around? and 'Gospel Albums'? how come Religious Programs are on the 'Telly'?


The 'NWO' is not a 'Satanic' nor an 'Occult Group' the 'NWO' is the 'New World Order' a 'One Government,Currency World' if the members practice the 'Occult' as the constitution states 'Freedom Of Religion'

i'm completely against the 'NWO' but enough with this 'Satanic Cult' Business

And By The By, Crowley was a 'Thelma' not a 'Satanist'

Originally posted by Darth_Prime

Originally posted by siren8

Originally posted by Darth_Prime
What does 'Aleister Crowley' have to do with anything?

And the 'World Banks' pretty much control the world anyway, which are owned by the Rothschild Bloodline,

Um, he was the evil inspiration to a lot of the illuminati rituals and stuff. They aren't just about money they are a Satanic cult. Well, branches at least. As so far in the music industry and other places where they can put propganda into minds. And in thier secret societies.

He influenced a lot of people he has his own frippin library in south texas somewhere at a college

Come off it, seriously all this 'Satanic Cult' is getting tiresome

The 'Occult' is not 'Satanic', Satanist don't even 'Worship Satan',

If the 'Music Industry' was truly under the 'Satanic Cult' how come we have people saying the 'Rapture' Will begin and all these 'Bible Prophecies'? are they 'Above' the Influence? can they not be 'Controlled' because they believe in this Alleged "God"?

same with 'Moving Pictures' have you seen any from the 30's 40's 50's? they have no 'Eye Of Horus' so when did the 'Satanic Cult' commence it's influence on the 'Music' and 'Picture' Industry?

i'll tell you when, when it become 'Fashionable' to be 'Edgy' when they knew if they wore an 'Eye Of Horus' or utilized 'Occult Symbols' they would seem 'Rebellious' and appeal to their Target Audience, i bet most of them don't even know the meanings behind the 'Symbolism'

how come 'Religious Bands' are still around? and 'Gospel Albums'? how come Religious Programs are on the 'Telly'?


The 'NWO' is not a 'Satanic' nor an 'Occult Group' the 'NWO' is the 'New World Order' a 'One Government,Currency World' if the members practice the 'Occult' as the constitution states 'Freedom Of Religion'

i'm completely against the 'NWO' but enough with this 'Satanic Cult' Business

And By The By, Crowley was a 'Thelma' not a 'Satanist'

Actually I believe the proper term that he used himself was a Luciferian. Which most people consider to be the same thing. You seem to know a lot about him for acting like you didn't know much about him.

And you can't get around the fact he influenced a large number of people wheather or not you believe in Satan. He started many secret societies and didn't start but was involved in the freemasons. how to know how much those societies have influenced a NWO none of us really knows. Thats why we are here.

The Chrisitan music industry has done a good deal to separate itself from the mainstream m;usic industry.

As for you asking me ot show you the Satanic links to the music/movie/entertainment industry, I'd be more than happy to start that for you in another thread. Give me a day or so to pull it all together. I wish I had checked this thread earlier I wouldn't have sat here for like an hour. I could have pulled it together.

Watch for it but not till at least Sunday.

And you'll produce some youtube links that are quite commonplace and tiresome now,

i know a lot about Crowley, i've been a practicing Occultist since i can remember, so i do know a whole lot about the 'Occult', though i've taken more of the 'Chaos Magic' avenue, as it offers more 'Freedom'

As far as him being a 'Luciferian' by his own admissions has never claimed to be that, if you have read any of his writings you would know,

as far as him being 'Influential', as with all 'Propaganda' he has been given far more credit then just deserved, he borrowed from many different 'Sources', one could find many more that were far more influential then Crowley,

Crowley was more 'Mainstream', he has become 'Common Association' with 'Evil' and 'Satanic Practice' though he practiced neither,