TSA and the NWO

Having just read the thread about the TSA Workers and the dangers that the so called "Naked Scanners" pose to them, I can't help but worry that topics such as that, take away from the real threat of the conditioning we are going through as a society. A conditioning to prepare us to be easier to control as our culture changes to a global one.

I see the problem with discussions like that based on hype and exaggerations is that it takes away from the valid arguments, against the forced security procedures directed at innocent people and the slippery slope it creates. Latching on to something like that as part of the argument is a bad idea. It might make for an interesting thread to rant in, but won't add any credibility to the real argument against enhanced security.

There are real issues though that are very deserving of consideration and that should stop this needless intrusion into innocent peoples lives. Not the least of which in the US is doing this to Citizens traveling from inside the US to inside the US. Even Napolitano admitted it is likely a violation of our Rights before these new procedures were added. They know they are acting outside of the law here and that should matter more than the extreme outside chance that maybe forty years from now one worker might develop a Cancer.

What should also matter is the use of fear to control people into being so quick to give up what Rights we have remaining. It is a fact that even with zero airport security, it would still be safer to fly than it is to drive to work. The fear is contrived and clearly serves no purpose other than control. People believe they are at risk because the presence of all this security falsely plants that idea in their minds.

The "Naked Scanners" are an extension of a technique of control I believe has been used since the Romans and perhaps before. It was strongly used by the Nazi's as well. Strip a person of their dignity with forced nudity and they are far easier to control. It demoralizes to the point it makes people like submissive sheep. That is a simple historical fact that I'm sure those at the top are not only aware of, they likely had long discussions about it before implementing the naked scanners.

Another similar technique is the touching of the genitals in the pat-downs. Once again it is to demoralize and control. They know it won't make flying any safer, but it will make us all easier to control. Once you allow a person to violate even the privacy of your own body, you are so controlled you no longer pose risk to those who would control you.

The truth here is this is about control and conditioning. The Progressive ideal is a world of submissive controled Citizens, willingly complying with all decisions made by the self-proclaimed elite. You know, those who see themselves as ruling over the illiterate masses who are not in lock-step with their views. They see us as dumb underlings incapable of making our own decisions that need to be treated like prepubescent brats.

I highly recommend the movie "Brazil" for a glimpse into the world they envision. One of austerity, efficiency and sacrifice at the hands of the "Elite". The idea of individualism and freedom to do as one wishes as long as it does not interfere with others rights terrifies them. That the filthy masses should be allowed to live without their full guidance and controls sickens these people who would be our Masters.

Over time, we will in general come to accept this as the norm in our lives. Memories of the time when we were free to be individuals will be forgotten and we will loose our desire to fight back. Those who hold on to their individual identities will soon become scorned by the general masses as they are programed to parrot the propaganda from their Masters.

Unless people begin to look beyond the false reasons for our Freedoms being stripped from us, we will soon be inside a pseudo-Theocracy ruled by the Religion of Progressiveness, imposed upon the helpless masses who need their guidance and parenting. These people honestly see it this way and it's easy for them to keep converts who fancy themselves part of the ruling elite. Of course they will tossed aside when the time is right, making their participation even sadder.

Soon they will drop their fake persona's and come out of the closet to lord over us for what they believe to be our own good. They don't care if we live or die or anything else about us, yet they wish to control every aspect of our lives, using fake concerns over our health and safety as a tool to condition us for their control of us. Soon may yet be a generation away, but it is coming soon to a theater near you. As each generation is conditioned to accept more and more control, the day the ruse is dropped and we are nothing more than willing slaves, living approved, scripted lives is just over the Horizon.

Will we wake up as a people in time? Or are we doomed to become nothing more than an ant colony living pointless lives as we go about our State Approved activities?

reply to post by Blaine91555


You are first going to have to convince the party line group that while terrorist exist, the likelihood of them bombing your plane is less than choking on a chicken bone.

All the people I have talked to on ATS that are for the security have either worked for TSA, or are literally scared rabbits when it comes to terrorists, and the "Muslim threat"

Protesting such things is also useless so long as it is peaceful. The people in Washington and elsewhere know now from the last few years that they can easily get away with ignoring the people because they will not do anything but have dance protests at the Jefferson memorial, or stand outside with signs whining about the issue.

hell even Grecian's are being ignored and they are throwing down the gauntlet as far as protesting is concerned. I think it is basically too late to change anything, that is not a defeatist attitude, it is probably some kind of logic.

So you think you getting searched for all of 10 sec is more important than people getting cancer?

I love how selfish some people in this world have become.

Over time, we will in general come to accept this as the norm in our lives.

Well laid out post and I agree 99%

1%...I will never accept this as the norm. Unfortunately, my descendants will as they will be born into servitude and Global Martial Law.

Those of us experiencing the shift must ensure that we pass on our values and ideals to those that come after so they know that the World was once a beautiful place to reside.

Originally posted by jude11

Over time, we will in general come to accept this as the norm in our lives.

Well laid out post and I agree 99%

1%...I will never accept this as the norm. Unfortunately, my descendants will as they will be born into servitude and Global Martial Law.

Those of us experiencing the shift must ensure that we pass on our values and ideals to those that come after so they know that the World was once a beautiful place to reside.

Values and Ideals will be lost in the sauce when it comes to our children. Unless you can bypass public school and homeschool your children, chances are they are going to get an overdose of propaganda from TPTB.
I wish there was a way around the plan made for us, but if thee is I haven't seen it yet.
Until then we're stuck like Chuck.

reply to post by snowen20


True and the fear is intentionally inflicted upon them. That is how it's supposed to work and it is working.

The actual act of going through the security is really not as bad as it is hyped to be. For instance I just took a trip that took me through security at four airports. In none of them die I have to do anymore than walk through a metal detector manned by a smiling, overly friendly TSA Worker.

The problem is that the true reason for all of this is hidden inside this seemingly innocuous screening. The true intent is the problem. It's a baby-steps approach to slowly condition us to be easier to control, so we pose less risk to the Progressives who wish to control all aspects of our lives. It is not Terrorists they fear, it is Free and Free Minded people they fear.

The conditioning is soon to be spread to all means of public transport. TSA as part of its annual budget has factored in 8,000 random screenings to take place on Amtrak and the like.

Originally posted by kro32
So you think you getting searched for all of 10 sec is more important than people getting cancer?

I love how selfish some people in this world have become.

Anyone that participates in the TSA Agenda deserves to be of 2nd importance when it comes to my rights.

I wouldn't want to wish cancer on anyone but that just happens to be the price they are going to pay for going along with the program instead of saying "I will not do this to my friends, neighbors, family and fellow human beings, this is not right!"

We didn't give them cancer, their bosses did.

Originally posted by snowen20

Originally posted by jude11

Over time, we will in general come to accept this as the norm in our lives.

Well laid out post and I agree 99%

1%...I will never accept this as the norm. Unfortunately, my descendants will as they will be born into servitude and Global Martial Law.

Those of us experiencing the shift must ensure that we pass on our values and ideals to those that come after so they know that the World was once a beautiful place to reside.

Values and Ideals will be lost in the sauce when it comes to our children. Unless you can bypass public school and homeschool your children, chances are they are going to get an overdose of propaganda from TPTB.
I wish there was a way around the plan made for us, but if thee is I haven't seen it yet.
Until then we're stuck like Chuck.

Yup!

Head for the hills, make babies until you have an army, educate them...and then rise against the machine!

Sounds good in theory huh?

Originally posted by kro32
So you think you getting searched for all of 10 sec is more important than people getting cancer?

I love how selfish some people in this world have become.

I said no such thing. What my point is that the infinitesimal risk the radiation poses is a red herring, taking away from the credibility of those worried about the greatest danger; which is being conditioned to have all aspects of our lives controlled

If a risk to health exists and is being covered up, that is a horrible thing also. That has a simple answer however as any TSA Agent can choose another career. TSA Agents are not highly skilled workers and there are many jobs they could pursue that pay as much or more.

In the case of the travelers, there is no such choice. Some have to travel to earn a living. Some like me live in a location where I could never see my family or friends again if I do not fly. Some simply don't fly any longer because it is to traumatic for them to submit to being seen nude by a stranger or having their genitals touched by a stranger. They are being punished having committed no crime or having given the authorities no reason to treat them as potential criminals.

reply to post by jude11


What exactly is this agenda of theirs? And how do you know this?

You do realize that everything in the world will not remain exactly as it always has been. Times change and the government may need to adapt to that change. The threats at airports has prompted tighter security and reading more into than that is irresponsible without proof of these grand conspiracy's you claim are going on.

Lincoln totally gutted the Constitution during the Civil War because the events of the times dictated he do so. It also appears that their is a credible threat to the agents working for TSA and for some of you to say "they are getting what they deserve" is kind of sickening.

reply to post by Blaine91555


This threat is a new occurance so how you can downplay it before all the facts are known makes no sense. It seems more serious than an infetismal threat.

Also there is no conditioning going on whatsoever and why would they need to condition anyone? For what main purpose are you going to argue, with no proof, that they are preparing us for.

Perhaps you should not overlook the obvious which is the fact that they have increased security after several failed attempts on airliners and quite a few successful ones.

reply to post by jude11


On that I agree. It would be better however if it were dealt with now before too much control is in the hands of our leaders.

Throughout most of Man's history we have not been Free. It is a blessing and gift that needs to be jealously guarded. We as a Free People need to make it known now, through legal and peaceful means that we won't tolerate this. We won't tolerate a tiny minority of power mad Progressives wishing to control us for "our own good". There are no more "New Worlds" for us to escape to, to create what we have here in the US. Or should I say had here in the US?

Originally posted by kro32
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

Perhaps you should not overlook the obvious which is the fact that they have increased security after several failed attempts on airliners and quite a few successful ones.

How many successful one was that?

Originally posted by snowen20

Originally posted by kro32
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

Perhaps you should not overlook the obvious which is the fact that they have increased security after several failed attempts on airliners and quite a few successful ones.

How many successful one was that?

You had pan am 103 that was bombed and the list for highjackings with weapons is so long i'll just link it for you.

en.wikipedia.org...

With all these examples I don't know why anyone would ask for less security.


Also this doesn't include the non-successful attempts such as the shoe bomber or the underwear bomber or any of the other cases that may have been thwarted that we don't know about.

edit on 29-6-2011 by kro32 because: added more

Originally posted by kro32
reply to post by jude11

 

What exactly is this agenda of theirs? And how do you know this?

You do realize that everything in the world will not remain exactly as it always has been. Times change and the government may need to adapt to that change. The threats at airports has prompted tighter security and reading more into than that is irresponsible without proof of these grand conspiracy's you claim are going on.

Lincoln totally gutted the Constitution during the Civil War because the events of the times dictated he do so. It also appears that their is a credible threat to the agents working for TSA and for some of you to say "they are getting what they deserve" is kind of sickening.

Without going into the entire issue, if you look at the TSA:

Airports, buses, trains, highways, malls, sporting events and random searches in the streets...this is what they want...and will get.

What's the agenda? Quite simply to have control over every movement we make.

And again, I would not wish cancer on anyone as we all have probably experienced someone in our lives with this. But i will say that Karma has a way of biting back and this time it ain't fooling around.

These agents (or at least some of them) know that what they are doing is absolutely wrong. And yet, either out of a desire for power, ego, arrogance or whatever their own reasons are, they participate in this action.

IMO

reply to post by kro32


Actually, I think your being knowingly obtuse here. I in no way downplay the risk to TSA Employees. Even if you fix that with some extra shielding or whatever method might be employed, the process of screening remains. If the radiation poses a risk, which simply will not be known for perhaps decades, it is only a risk to willing employees. What I'm talking about is forced upon us if we wish to travel. A TSA Worker can simply quit and move on to a better job.

The idea that they developed cancer so quickly screams it is a hysterical reaction at the moment. That won't stop anything. It will only add to the idea that those opposed are irrational.

reply to post by jude11


Why do you believe the TSA wants to have control over your every movement and what's in it for them?

Do they profit somehow by this?

I appreciate your argument and i'm not saying your anymore wrong than I may be but you seem to be leaving out an important piece of the puzzle.

What interest do they have in doing this?

reply to post by Blaine91555


Fair enough on that point. But nothing is being forced on you if you wish to travel. You may still take the train, drive your car, take a bus, walk, run, swim, the only increased security which you refer to happens during air travel and that is because the airlines have long been a target for those wishing to cause fear.

Note my link above to terror acts on aircraft.

The majority of people do not endure much more than walking through a metal detector so this does not quantify your argument that they are conditioning us at all as most have little to no major disruption.

I understand the main point of your post but I believe you are misdirecting that frustration towards airport security.

Those examples of attempted Terrorist Attacks were not in any way stopped by TSA. That is also a false argument. For instance the Shoe Bomber was escorted onto a plane even though the airline did not want him on the plane.

None of the arguments changes the fact that you take more risk driving to the store or work and the fear used to push this is fabricated.

It's impossible to speak to this in the case of people so paranoid they make themselves easy targets for anyone who wishes to control them. People in that category are usually so afraid of the world around them, they don't have much of a life to begin with. Unjustified fear is however a great control tool to use on the segment of society prone to unrealistic fear.

I'd rather die young in a Free Society than live to be very old in a society of conditioned submissive, catering to the demands of the elite Progressives and Academics.

At some point intelligent beings must ask themselves, if this is about our safety, why do these same people object to stopping the millions of Illegals who have crossed our Southern Borders in recent years? They even admit that thousands a year cross who are from places that are known to harbor Terrorists.

Oddly enough I've noticed the same people who use the Fear Card to justify our being conditioned and controlled, ignoring our God Given Rights are generally the same people arguing that controlling the Borders is wrong. The hypocrisy is breathtaking in that regard.

It does not take a genius to figure out that any true danger to us would use our weak Borders to enter and not worry about the airlines. The reason for this conditioning of the masses clearly has nothing to do with our safety, it has to do with the safety of those who wish to control and dictate to us. Otherwise they would be all over the Border problem. ...and yet, they are not...

reply to post by kro32


I reviewed your link.

I still want less security.