9/11 Truthers - You are part of the plan!

CIA/Mossad Asset Mahmoud Ahmadinejad requested that the U.N. investigate 9/11

Ahmadinejad Asks U.N. to Investigate 9/11

It is telling that BBC's U.N. correspondent refused to comment on (see quote below) and did not ridicule Ahmadinejad's request for a UN investigation in 9/11.

Barbara Plett, the BBC’s U.N. correspondent, reports from New York that the secretary general’s office “said that it was studying the letter from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad but had no comment.”

The stage is being set, it's clear the way this is going. 9/11 is a false flag that's been set up to create a controlled revolution in the USA

A U.N. World Government Advocate (sponsored by the Rockfeller's) calls for a new 9/11 Investigation

To sum up the below, a member (at the time) of the U.N Human Rights Council, who wants a world government, who is funded by the Rockfellers, called for an investigation into 9/11. Connect the dots.

World Government Advocate Calls For New 9/11 Investigation

the call for a "new investigation" into 9/11 by professor emeritus of international law at Princeton University, and member of the newly-formed U.N. Human Rights Council, Richard Falk.

Falk is a member of the World Federalist Movement (see Wikipedia's list of world federalists), along with such notable names as Walter Cronkite and former Deputy Secretary of State under Bill Clinton, Strobe Talbot. Falk is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

With increasing talk of a new U.N.-headed "investigation" into 9/11, it's important that people understand the real agenda of those who are promoting this farce, some of who have openly called for a world government and are members of organizations openly sworn to global governance. The elite use many fronts, and they always control the opposition to the "other side," which they also control. It's called the Hegelian dialectic, and understanding the Hegelian dialectic is key to understanding how these people operate. Not only should people be suspicious about any talk of a U.N.-headed investigation, but they should be equally suspicious about the websites that present themselves as exposing the truth, while covering this story like it's a good thing, conveniently failing to mention the things I mentioned above.

Connect the dots, at the time Richard Falk was a member of the U.N Human Right Council, he is a member of the World Ferderalist Movement and the Council on Foreign Relations. He was being funded by The Rockefeller Foundation.

Bring on Alex Jones to lead The Truthers or to be more accurate; mislead them

reply to post by jameshawkings

I believe that when the Bankers want to corrupt the UN, they just use money.

Absolutely, despite how good your technical skills are, without the business skills nothing happens. For any government, politician or organisation to get behind this 9/11 reinvestigation push they need to know what they are getting themselves into. In trying to understand how the financial system works and where it is at is just as difficult as understanding the alien situation with all the power, control and corruption going on. This is my current understanding of it:

At the tip of the pyramid is the BIS (Bank of International Settlements). This the bank that all the main banks use, it started from the conflict of WW2 as a way to facilitate trade during the heat of battle. The Swiss manage this due to their neutral stance during hostilities. From the ashes of that war the IMF (International Monetary Fund) became the front organisation of this bank with the Trilateral Commission and CFR (Council of Foreign Relations) managing policy control. With the criminal cable having a strong grip of this and behind the scenes global knowledge of this, the G20 has recently taken policy control of the IMF. This is a good thing as it is introducing more international review to this important financial organisation and reduces the influence of the ongoing corruption.

As for where most of the money is there are some reports of a bank account that has about 43 zero's in its balance, yeah crazy and there is no integrity in the system if this is true. The Rothschild's appear to be the most wealthy family that has gained huge profits from war and is a suspect for all the gold that was in fort Knox. The Rockefeller's are also up there with very deep pockets. Internationally though there is a lot of stress and strain in the global economy due to the large levels of hoarding, corruption, loop holes and imbalances in the system. With ownership associated more towards personal worth rather than personal responsibility, things have gotten out of hand. There has been a lot of wrestling between the East and West lately in how the global economy is run and structured with the East making ground. This is a real strength with the UN as it taps into the worlds resources and not limited to some local warlords.

The first 9/11 commission clearly shows that next one can still be rigged. It all depends on how the board is setup and who is on it. I see your point with Alex Jones as well, give up Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld while holding the Zionist line. If the next commission was to occur in America by America then this is what I would expect. With Iran leading the global push to a new investigation this is where I would look to see how much integrity is in the board. If they are happy with the selection then I would give it a good chance to get to the bottom of it. If they call it as crap from the start then get ready for another whitewash.

As for the WHO, there are a lot of conflicts of interest and complexity going on. Hopefully it is just going through some growing pains and can sort its mess out.

Absolutely there is a desire for a world totally dominated by the statute book, which is miles away from democracy. However I think that there are also different factions, who may be at 'War' with each other.

It is pretty well understood now that democracy was put on hold, not after 9/11 but after the G.W. Bush election which was a scandal, and was allowed to stand, 9/11 enhanced the end of democracy and not just in the US.

Regardless though of the end game, the deep suspicions about 9/11 must be put to rest one way or the other, and in our lifetimes, if ordinary citizens value one another.

it's no secret that governments, (or their masters) have no qualms in sacrificing lives on a whim, for political gain or to steal from others under the guise of war and more war, Vietnam is one example, the LBJ tapes are revealing in that.

To pre-empt any official source instigating a new investigation into 9/11 off their own bat, they should be forced to by the ordinary citizens demanding an inquiry, to be carried out by non-government bodies, in any case the governments have sat on their hands long enough already, and should not be given the chance to lick the cream.

Some of the work carried out by individuals on Thermite thinking out of the box have brought out a few surprises, all the things the experts said Thermite or Thermate could not do have been proven wrong as recent tests show Thermite cutting steel, and in a fashion.

The molten metal that is not supposed to have existed but did, the molten metal (in my opinion) steel, seen dripping out of the tower, the missing documents related to the towers construction, the changing opinion of an original WTC structural engineer, WTC7, the clean metal at the pentagon, all this stuff needs to be rooted out for a decent explanation, if there is one.

Originally posted by AeonStorm

Originally posted by bhornbuckle75
reply to post by jameshawkings

 

Thanks for the sarcasm bhimbuckle

I always appreciate humor in more serious topics

.... You WERE being sarcastic weren't you?

Perhaps....then again, maybe my sarcasm is part of the plan too?

reply to post by jameshawkings


This is an excellent thread, conspiracies within conspiracies is a powerful way for the "powers that be" to manipulate people's thoughts and actions, and to justify their own behaviour in the name of the population. The problem I always seem to have though is knowing what to do next. To defeat these inside conspiracies one needs a cogent strategy , identifying the double conspiracy and alerting everyone to it is the first important step but what action can we now take to undermine it achieving its objective? Anyone have an ideas on that?

I'll be back with some replies soon...

Aeonflux,

Thanks for your excellent contribution

I believe that we need the word to get out that an End Game is being played out against the USA, they need to know that The Truth Movement is going to be used against the USA. They need to know that the United Nations is the opposition. The people of the US need to know that the same people who were behind 9/11 are also behind the UN.

I'm expecting this End Game to be played out either near the end of or after WW3. The USA is the most difficult country for the United Nations to take over, that is why there is an elaborate plan. Europe is already half way there now that the EU have both feet in the door, but the US coup is very different.

Originally posted by Aeonflux
reply to post by jameshawkings

 

This is an excellent thread, conspiracies within conspiracies is a powerful way for the "powers that be" to manipulate people's thoughts and actions, and to justify their own behaviour in the name of the population. The problem I always seem to have though is knowing what to do next. To defeat these inside conspiracies one needs a cogent strategy , identifying the double conspiracy and alerting everyone to it is the first important step but what action can we now take to undermine it achieving its objective? Anyone have an ideas on that?

Thanks for your post smurfy I hear you!

I believe this is a trap that has been set for us. Do we play right into it to expose 9/11 but then give the people behind 9/11 exactly what they wanted all along?

There is no rush with 9/11, we have to be cautious. We cannot undo 9/11, but we can do our best to avoid making more mistakes. Let's hold off on 9/11 and try to avoid falling into a trap that we might never be able to get out of. Once the United Nations takes the world, their plan is to take all the weapons from the people and all the weapons/armies from each country. Only the so-called United Nations peacekeepers will have weapons. The idea is that they will have total control, we cannot fight back, we cannot easily change things from this point on.

Originally posted by smurfy
Absolutely there is a desire for a world totally dominated by the statute book, which is miles away from democracy. However I think that there are also different factions, who may be at 'War' with each other.

It is pretty well understood now that democracy was put on hold, not after 9/11 but after the G.W. Bush election which was a scandal, and was allowed to stand, 9/11 enhanced the end of democracy and not just in the US.

Regardless though of the end game, the deep suspicions about 9/11 must be put to rest one way or the other, and in our lifetimes, if ordinary citizens value one another.

it's no secret that governments, (or their masters) have no qualms in sacrificing lives on a whim, for political gain or to steal from others under the guise of war and more war, Vietnam is one example, the LBJ tapes are revealing in that.

To pre-empt any official source instigating a new investigation into 9/11 off their own bat, they should be forced to by the ordinary citizens demanding an inquiry, to be carried out by non-government bodies, in any case the governments have sat on their hands long enough already, and should not be given the chance to lick the cream.

Some of the work carried out by individuals on Thermite thinking out of the box have brought out a few surprises, all the things the experts said Thermite or Thermate could not do have been proven wrong as recent tests show Thermite cutting steel, and in a fashion.

The molten metal that is not supposed to have existed but did, the molten metal (in my opinion) steel, seen dripping out of the tower, the missing documents related to the towers construction, the changing opinion of an original WTC structural engineer, WTC7, the clean metal at the pentagon, all this stuff needs to be rooted out for a decent explanation, if there is one.

Nice post kwakakev

You've raised a good point about business skills being essential. On a similar note, I see lots of posters on this board who are fairly intelligent and well read, but lack business understanding. This tends to leave them blind to a lot of the corruption that's going on. For example, they will read a scientific study without realising the importance of looking for the sponsor and considering potential agendas.

Like you say, to get to the bottom of 9/11 requires rounded intelligence, it needs people who understand the bigger picture; money, power, bankers, laws etc. It will also require guts. There are no doubt a lot of high powered people who know exactly what happened on 9/11 and despise it, but they are aware that speaking out (currently) would mean assassination. By the end of WW3 this will have all changed, the USA will be demonised, like Germany was (and still is). The currently US regime will be looked back on in a similar light to the Nazi's, but this is not by accident, this has been encouraged and funded, it is all part of the dismantling of the USA

You talk about the IMF, CFR and the G20. For me all 3 are NWO; the IMF is debt warfare, instead of attacking a country physically to grab control and take their assets, you create money from nowhere, lend it to them, then when they cannot repay you take assets and gradually gain control. I see the G20 as all part of the same criminal network. Rockefeller's CFR is all very closely linked with the UN/WHO etc.

The 43 zero's is pretty scary, it sounds like a Rothchild or Rockefeller account, though I'm sure they have all kinds of techniques for hiding their money. I believe you are right that some people have been set up to take the blame for 9/11 and the recent wars. I see Bush and Blair being done for War Crimes at the same time as the UN takes over, possibly even facing the death penalties to symbolise the start of a new era.

Personally I could never trust the UN or WHO due to where the money comes from. I cannot start trusting the Rockefeller's after their history. If there were a real investigation into 9/11 the families behind the UN and WHO would be the ones going to jail.

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You talk about the IMF, CFR and the G20. For me all 3 are NWO

You are right as they are all involved in matters of global governance, however the history behind them, their purpose and accountability are all different. It is a big complex world we have and it does take a lot of time and research to understand how it is linked together. The IMF started as a way to facilitate international transactions in the post WW2 era and has lately been on debt warfare, The CFR is American scholars and business promoting American interests with the G20 consisting of representatives from the top 20 nations.

To paint them all with the same brush does over simplify matters, the clearer you can define the problem the clearer the solution becomes. To be realistic, there is very likely some cross collaboration due to the highly specialised nature of the work. I do see the G20 as an improvement over the CFR in managing IMF policy as it does expand the review and decision making to a more diverse set of views. With the wheels of national government moving slow, the wheels of international government move even slower.

It is wise to be be careful with your trust as it is something that needs to be earnt and situations do change. When seeing the state of the world it is easy to blame the UN and it does deservingly hold some of that responsibility, it has also gotten a few things right along the way as well. I do put my belief in the UN as it is the only real chance this world has got.

As for where money comes from, this is currently more of a national issue (regional for the EU) but there are strong ties and slow progress towards a unified global economy. It is a complex scene with a lot of variation and different rules around the world. I cannot see a global dollar coming in while the world is in a state of war, either we grow up and resolve our differences or the winner takes all (if there is a winner left) from the ongoing hostilities.

As for this conspiracy for the UN take over of the USA by the truther movement. Firstly the UN is not interested in governing America, or any other nation for that matter. The UN is about international governance and has no capacity for national governance. The UN is interested in war crimes, human rights, international security and law. I do see the UN the only real chance to get to the bottom of 9/11 as there are too many conflicts for America to clean itself up.

In sweeping up the mess American governance is going to be a big issue, but I do see the UN respecting self determination and will try to get Americans running America as soon as it can if disruptions to the political process occur. If however it takes an act of war to get a new 9/11 commission started then the rules are different and it is up to the invaders for national governance issues. These invaders could be internal such as a revolution or external.

As for this being pre planned from the get go, I find it highly unlikely. With JFK, Vietnam and a host of other crimes covered up, confidence would have been high that 9/11 could be covered up as well. The internet was not as developed back then and this has played a vital part in keeping the pressure up as well as uncovering the facts. The news media was well controlled with a huge misinformation campaign on the net. The main downfall was with WTC 7, no lie could cover up this standard controlled demolition job and so the question began.