reply to post by SpeachM1litant
After a quick look through your history of the founding of Israel I notice you blatantly left out the terrorist murdering organization actions of
groups such as the Stern Gang and Irgun and Haganah, infact not only did you leave out there terrorist actions, you actually painted them in a
positive light. I'm starting to think your a racist. Remember the Stern Gang was responsible for killing UN negotiators. So it was not only the Arabs
Ok. First, im neither ignorant of this subject, or arrogant. Whats actually arrogant is you saying you didnt read the majority of my post - which
addresses the issue of the "ignorance" issue - and yet you still go ahead an call me arrogant.
When you get the time. Read the post.
As for the Lehi, Hagana, Palmach and Irgun. First of all. There were over 6 major massacres, between 1921 - with the Jaffa massacre, and 1939, with
the Arab riots, that left hundreds of Jews killed. Ok? For close to 18 years, there wasnt one Jewish reprisal. Jews stood and begged the British for
help when the arabs attacked them in Hebron in 1929, and Safed in the same year. No response for this brutal atrocity, and yet anyone with a brain and
a sense of justice knows that you cant play nice with people who find it morally justifiable to kill, the way Arabs and Muslims do.
Not until 1946 did an organized Jewish defensive finally occur. And how many individual attacks were there?
Massacres in Palestine before 1948
You have 7 individual massacres against Jews before 1946. The Jews did NOTHING at all to the Arabs, aside from providing job opportunities and a
better standard lof living for what were clearly ungreatful arabs. In this period, the infamous Haj Amin Al-Husseini, an ardent anti-semite and friend
of Hitler (who lived with him at one point), after being made Grand Mufti of Jerusalem by the supposed 'friend of the Jews' herbert samuel (therebye
investing this criminal with official powers) orchestrated each of these attacks against the Jews. It was the Grand Mufti who instigated the mobs with
violent religious rhetoric against the Jews. Is the alliance between Haj Al husseni and Hitler not enough to show that this guy was a vile, evil
But since you want to stress the failings of the Underground jewish paramilitary groups.. Fine. But first, take it in perspective that the Arabs were
the original hostile parties. You dont attack someone 6
times, killing hundreds of people, and mutilating their bodies (as Arabs are
wont to do) without eventually coming to the understanding (as Sephardic Jews know so well...ask anyone of them, and they'll all tell you stories
about what the parents/grandparents had to put up with) that Arab brutality is a common thing. Im sorry, but most stereotypes have truth to them.
Chinese are often bad drivers. Indians are usually dirty. And Arabs - as even reported in ancient Jewish, Greek Orthodox, Armenian, Coptic and Hindu
writings (and even in some of their own history books) are known for their brutal methods. This is not a 'racist' statement. It is something they are
known to do. Am i saying ALL of them are like this? No. but the Arab culture has fostered this mentality, Otherwise it wouldnt be such a staple, from
their earliest crusades in the middleast, north African and Asia, to the common era, of their behavior. This can lead to no other inference then
Islam being a religion with a high tolerance for blood and gore.
Anyways. You have the king David Hotel bombings which left 91 killed. 41 Arabs, 28 british and 17 Jews. This attack was aimed towards the British. It
just so happened that many Arabs and Jews were killed aswell.
The real fighting begins in 1947. You have an Irgun attack on December 13, 1947, that left 16 Arabs killed.
Then you have a reprisal from the Arab legion on December 14, 1947 that left 13 Jews killed.
Then you have a Haganah offensive that left 10 Arabs dead on December 18, 1947
From December 24th-29th, there were 4 individual Arab attacks that left 20 Jews killed.
On December 29, 1947, the irgun threws a bomb - a politically motivated ie; strategic offensive that leaves 11 Arabs dead
On December 30, 1947, an Irgun bombing leaves 6 Arabs killed. After the attack workers at the refinery killed 39 Jews
January 1, 1948, Palmach launches an offensive against Arabs in Haifa that leaves 17-70 killed.
January 3, 1948, an Arab attack leaves 4 Jews killed
January 3, 1948 an Arab attack leaves 3 Jews killed
The Bombing of Arab National Committee headquarters on january 4, 1948 by Lehi leaves 14 Arabs dead
The Semiramis Hotel bombing on January 5, 1948 by Hagana leaves 20 Arabs dead
On January 5, 1948, 4 Arabs were killed after they attacked the Jewish community of Safed
The Jaffa Gate bombing in Jerusalem on January 7, 1948 left 15-20 Arabs killed
Between January 9th, 1948 and Febuary 15th, Arab attacks killed 103 Jews
Between the 15th of febuary of 1948 April 9th 1948, there were more attacks, none of which left more thena few killed in each attack.
Then of course there was De'ir Yassin massacre, which Jews never hear the end of. This left 100 Arabs dead.
Lets juxtapose this attack with what followed. 4 days later, Arab militants killed 78 Jews; all of them doctors, nurses and patients. Thats just 22
less then the Arabs killed
However, the largest massacre was the Kfar Zion massacre, which left 127-157 Jews Murdered.
My point with all these numbers? The Arabs were the first to instigate them with the random attacks between 1921 and 1939. Because both parties were
vying for political control of the land of Palestine, Arabs of course not being satisfied with political control over 99% of thr middleast, also
wanted that little tinie tiny strip of land west of the Jordan river. It was not enough for them that the British gave 80% of the then Palestinian
Mandate. Nope. They wanted ALL of it; which is why the rejected the partition plan and launched a war on the Jews.
Im not racist. Im a judicious person who weighs facts properly. The Jews did some things of course that arent nice. But unfortunately, when youre
competing with such a ruthless and bellicose enemy, you have no chouice BUT to adopt their cruel methods; its a case of fighting fire with fire. There
is no other response. Its either you give the Arabs a taste of their own medicine, or you allow them to destroy you, as theyve done hundreds of times
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