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Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3
Boo friggin' hooo. I'm out nearly 5 grand with my wife immigrating here LEGALLY from England (oh no, she's white, and must be a devil of some type, right?). We've done EVERYTHING LEGALLY from the first day. This meant that she was in England and I was here, waiting TEN MONTHS for the Nebraska service center to process our paperwork. So, cry me a river for these criminals coming here ILLEGALLY. What gives THEM the right to break the law, while others do the right thing? NOTHING! Deport, deport, deport. Period!
Originally posted by daskakik
Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3
Boo friggin' hooo. I'm out nearly 5 grand with my wife immigrating here LEGALLY from England (oh no, she's white, and must be a devil of some type, right?). We've done EVERYTHING LEGALLY from the first day. This meant that she was in England and I was here, waiting TEN MONTHS for the Nebraska service center to process our paperwork. So, cry me a river for these criminals coming here ILLEGALLY. What gives THEM the right to break the law, while others do the right thing? NOTHING! Deport, deport, deport. Period!
So your crying because you are a sucker. You did everything legally when it's obvious that you didn't have to and now your mad because others are finding an easier way to do it. You do realize that most government paperwork is just money garnering.
There are a bunch of laws that are still in effect that no one follows. They're on the books but not enforced. Immigration laws seem to fall in that category, at least in part.
edit on 29-6-2011 by daskakik because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Night Star
I can't believe you even said this! Someone comes here legally and with respect to our laws and Country and you call them a sucker? You condone breaking the law and getting a free ride and taking advantage of the Country?
Originally posted by daskakik
So they are not americans problems but them taking american jobs is? So that means they are.
I was just responding to a "do it legally it's simple" post when in fact it isn't. That isn't in any way a problem or something that the US needs to change but it is a fact.
Originally posted by James1982
I mean it shouldn't be America's problem. I agree with you though, for many illegal immigrants they don't have the means to come here legally. That's sad, but as I said, it's not America's responsibility to take care of downtrodden Mexicans. It's Mexico's.
Originally posted by ABWarrior58
Before reading on, know that I am not here to please you or make friends, simply to voice my opinion on why I have an issue with today’s large influx of Mexican-American Immigrants.
I myself come from a family of Irish-Americans whose ancestors immigrated to this wonderful country in the late 1800’s early 1900’s. Before I go any further let me explain that Irish immigrants during this time were severely discriminated against. However, we were able to suck it up, work hard and overcome such obstacles.
When our ancestors immigrated (Irish, Italian, German, Russian, and anyone else.) They did some things that a majority of today’s Hispanic immigrants do not. First off, they did it legally! They were processed into this country, many became citizens or their children were born here then they became citizens. Today’s immigrants ILLEGALLY cross our borders.
This costs Billions in taxpayer’s money (Department of Homeland Security’s annual budget of $52.3 Billion, Immigration & Customs Enforcement annual budget of $5.82 Billion, Customs and Border Protect annual budget of $11.84 Billion just to name a few.)
Back when our ancestors came into this country the only necessary govt interference was the processing of such immigrants done by the U.S. Border Patrol.
Here is the other big factor, when our ancestors came to this country they were given NOTHING. They had to work for it. And work hard they did.
However, today’s immigrants who are here ILLEGALLY are given more than we as citizens do!
"Amnesty for illegal immigrants will cause costs to increase significantly from $10.4 billion a year to $28.8 billion. This is because an amnesty program would transform an illegal immigrant to an "unskilled immigrant with legal status" who could access various government programs.” – Center for Immigration Studies
"The defeat of the Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act of 2007 prevented the legalization of some 60,000 illegal immigrants, by providing them in-state college tuition and other education and government benefits not available to legal immigrants or citizens."- Center for Immigration Studies
"40% of all workers in L.A. County are working for cash and not paying taxes . . .. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card."
"$2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens."
"$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens."
"$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!"
This is just a small example of the cost of illegal immigration.
If these immigrants were to come here legally I would welcome them with open arms! Work, pay taxes, raises a family, that’s what this country is about.
However, many of these immigrants are criminals outside of the immigration laws.
" Illegal immigrants collectively represent a group that is a significant menace to the public. 80% have committed serious crimes in addition to immigration violations, and 40% have violent crime histories."
"Gang investigators in Virginia estimate that 90% of the members of MS-13, the most notorious immigrant gang, are illegal immigrants."
" During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, coc aine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. "
In Los Angeles, 95% of some 1,500 outstanding warrants for homicides are for illegal aliens. About 67% of the 17,000 outstanding fugitive felony warrants are for illegal aliens.
Illegal alien sexual predators commit an estimated 130,909 sexual crimes each year.
Again this is just a SMALL representation of the effect ILLEGAL immigration has had on this country. Again if they came here LEGALLY we could only allow ones who wouldn’t murder, rape, or sell dope.
Lastly and the biggest point I have to make, is our ancestors ASSIMILATED. For those who don’t know what that means, it means they adapted! They began speaking English, learning the language, learning the culture while creating their own.
This is an American Nation, unique in that those who wanted their own culture created its culture. That’s why the culture in Georgia is different than in Minnesota, or in New York, etc. etc.
Today’s immigrants have no incentive to assimilate, everything is done for them!
If you’re arrested, you can have an English/Spanish speaking lawyer, if you go to cvs and pay with a credit card all instructions can be given in Spanish. You go to the doctor, they have charts in Spanish, if your children refuse to learn English, there are teachers at schools and all they do is teach to Spanish speaking students so that they don’t have to speak English!
Today’s Immigrants have everything handed to them; welfare, food stamps, education, healthcare, etc all without paying taxes!
Also, why learn to speak English, if your daily life won’t be interrupted because no matter where you live in the US it’s also available in Spanish.
Our ancestors, worked hard, and assimilated. That’s the difference!
Originally posted by EmVeeFF
reply to post by YouDeserveToKnow
They have no right to be here! If I illegally immigrated to another country I would be deported, why should America be any different?edit on 28-6-2011 by EmVeeFF because: (no reason given)