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Internet Censorship Storm Is Coming, Warns Schmidt

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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:12 PM

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
They are only going to make themselves an enemy, a virtual army of millions of angry users who will eventually realize their true strength in numbers.

Bring it.

Well I was on the fence reading some of the recent "Hackers" threads if this comes to pass Me thinks the winds of discontent will blow in hackers favor...

posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:17 PM
reply to post by SLAYER69

That is possible to a degree... but to a greater degree, if people realize how to starve the greedy beast that will have supreme control over the "internet" in large enough numbers freedom will be quick to return.

Don't click, don't buy, stay away for a while... in the millions!

Either way, they had better not provoke a free people.

posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:17 PM
reply to post by ripcontrol

From your link.

Censorship of videos The article cited for the claim that Vevo themselves censors the videos has been duplicated on several other websites, which leads me to believe that it's not reliable. This is exacerbated by the fact that the example shown in the article and its clones ("I'm on a Boat" by the Lonely Island) has an uncut version on the same channel. Virtually all of the censored videos I've seen on Vevo were created prior to YouTube taking off and were therefore probably never uncensored in the first place so that they could be shown on television. The fan-uploaded versions of these videos that do have the swearing were probably the result of them dubbing over the explicit version of the song before they posted it. (talk) 03:04, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:19 PM

Originally posted by TheButcher23
Soon we will all be banned from thinking certain thoughts.
Too late. What do you think "hate crimes" and "hate speech" are really about? It is the beginnings of "thought crime".

posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:32 PM
Hi ATS! First time poster, long time... blah blah...

Here in Australia we are about to have a filter forced upon us. The wording is "voluntary"; however the voluntary aspect is that the ISP's are currently able to opt out. Not the user. Two of Australia’s biggest providers (Telstra & Optus) are currently going ahead with it. Telstra is rumoured to be wavering though, due to fears of reprisal from groups such as Anonymous.

The filter is being "masterminded" by one Senator Stephen Conroy. He has stated there will be no discussions with any groups r.e. his plans. He did, however allow the Australian Christian Party to have a closed door meeting with him. It is being sold to the public (at a current cost to taxpayers of 9.8 million AU$) under the guise of "blocking child pornography", however the blacklist is secret & no-one really knows what is on the list. Leaked lists have apparently shown innocent websites are being blocked. I have also seen news relating to the blocking of sites that instruct on suicide, non-Government drug & abortion sites & euthanasia. The way I see it, once they have their filter in place, they can pretty much block (html) whatever they like.

I find the child porn excuse weak. Surely the sicko's sharing this material aren't using traditional html sites that can be blocked in this manner? I would have assumed they would use peer to peer etc. Hell, even email - that’s not blocked. Personally I'd much rather see the almost 10 million dollars spent on stopping this problem at the cause. Not applying a filter & then sticking our heads in the sand whilst children go on being exploited.
And that’s the reason for my mistrust. I seriously do not believe children are stumbling across disgusting sites like the Government would have us believe. I've worked as a PC security tech for 8 years. I've never seen any sign of this sort of material on any PC EVER! To me, this is the first steps towards controlling what we can & cannot see.

posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:39 PM
reply to post by TRiPWiRE

Thank you for the reply it is greatly appreciated. I'd like to see who all are on the secret blacklist. Sounds like it could easily be twisted for political gains if you asked me.

Well I hope once the censorship takes hold there we here at ATS can still expect great contributions from Down Under

posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 07:02 PM
I think Facebook and Tweet have more issues for damage then THIS sight, based on percentage of number of viewers and member.
Little by little they will try and say it's for our own protection. That they MUST do this for National Security.

Not like we have'nt seen it coming,but resistence will and should be in a strong peaceful, legal way.

Let's not get too hopped up and become another reason to restrict,control,monitor and pay for the right of free speach. Or ELSE.

And we say Oh YEAH? Or ELSE WHAT?


I'm sure the owners here are monitoring the changes as much as we are. They have a lot at stake without going off the handle.

Maybe they could launch their own satellite,make ATS members subscribe to offset launching the satellite,and with subscribtion,you get your own ATS Box, and a decoder ring. Direct feed from the satellite. On the road...Decoder Ring changes colors when there are roadblocks, or missles coming in.

It would probably only cost us about $50,000 each to launch the Satellite. And if you cancel? You get to keep the decoder ring.

posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 08:17 PM

posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 08:48 PM
The internet is Pandora box to those who want to sensor information. Our kids will not let that happen. They are the ones who are growing up with it. I as a parent I try to answer all my kids questions as best I can and if I can’t, or am unsure we look it up. They are amazing on their quest for information if they want it. So far censorship of the internet has been week at best, as computers improve and the users become better at using them, Hackers will keep the information flowing and for you guys that do that. Thanks.

posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 09:09 PM
Schmidt once also said something to the effect of...

"the internet is the only thing that we humans have built, that we don't understand"

I guess that thought can be interpreted and applied to many levels, no?

posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 09:58 PM
A part of me is wondering if the guy is warning or trying to get people use to the idea that censorship will be the norm.

My bet is that in the end even Google will give in to censorship.

posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 10:30 PM
I just see this as a part of a much larger erosion--to state the obvious.

But this IS the NWO. This is their base ideology and methodology. It'll be slow and gradual, and they'll be patient, but they WILL get it done.

But my thoughts on the NWO are this: Their intent is not evil (per se): It's homogeneity. What they want (and by "they" I mean the institutional and corporate ideologists who are trying to bring it about) is a homogenized, contented, docile society the world over. They don't want us to be a thorn in their side; they don't want to destroy us; they don't even want us to be unhappy: They want us to shut up and work and consume and sleep, and work and consume and sleep; to eat, s**t, and die, and shut the **** up! They'll push forward on the internet front for a while, until they meet resistance. And then they'll concentrate their efforts elsewhere for a while--until they meet resistance; and so on and so on and so on. And ever-so-slowly but inevitably they'll have us penned in.

Probably most of us will be dead before the NWO is entirely accomplished. But they're not inclined to countenance resistance. Resistance is futile. You WILL be assimilated....

posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 11:16 PM
reply to post by SLAYER69

You can guarantee that Google actually fights for that stuff, and as long as they do, the government as least has something to fight with.

The solution is easy. Move it to the ballot. ask your people in the next election what they favor. Auto-no vote for favors of such things.

posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 11:36 PM
So the forces of censorship win without firing a shot because people just resign themselves to what they think is inevitable? Google of all companies has absolutely no room to talk about censorship since they cooperate with Governments to restrict the flow of information.

I am not a fan of the Clintons, but Sec State hit the nail on the head when she talked about the internet and the importance it plays in countries and that it should not be restricted.

The reason some restrictions exist is because people are apathetic and have mmounted no serious opposition. Instead people complain about it, and within an hour the ADHD kicks in and they move on to something else.

People really need to decide whats important enough to take a stand on. This is one topic where a stand needs to be made.

Absent making a stand, this thread will serve as a reminder of the warning and the consequences of complacency. To some by the time this becomes a major issue, it will be to late.

People must take part in Government. Contact your representatives and let them know they represent the peolpe and not businesses. If they dont represent the people, then its time to fire them and replace them with appropriate representatives.

posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 11:52 PM
I am sort of confused as to what the problem is.

Censorship or things that we do not need to be exposed to? How will this cause a revolution? People won't care, it will go in the too hard basket and the avearge Joe will still use the internet the way the average Joe uses it at this time. Sites like ATS will be banned. Social sites would have to be banned too, because anywhere that people can congregate will be banned.

You will still be able to get online movies through a registered distributer so this fits the copywrite issues and illegal downloads.

How to make bombs and stuff, will be available on sneakernet.. ( which i think is hilarious)

Am I on the right track?

posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 12:05 AM
reply to post by SLAYER69

Anonymous better step up it's game but hey looks like we got google in our side

posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 12:24 AM
This could be an interesting test of America's apathy level if it were to happen.

I think if the government tries to go down this road it'll turn into a never ending war. At least I'd like to think so. Although maybe our government has already started to censor some things, how do we know that they haven't?

With hackers and an ever increasing tech aware public, I just don't think the government will be too successful in the endeavor if they were to try it.

I didn't know Britain has censorship. I wonder what that entails and it's scary to see what may happen in Australia, but at least it sounds like the public there seems to be outraged by it. I'm afraid that may not happen here.

posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 12:54 AM
so ummm... do any of you guys know what a CALEA Tunnel is?

The Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) is a United States wiretapping law passed in 1994, during the presidency of Bill Clinton (Pub. L. No. 103-414, 108 Stat. 4279, codified at 47 USC 1001-1010). In its own words, the purpose of CALEA is:

To amend title 18, United States Code, to make clear a telecommunications carrier's duty to cooperate in the interception of communications for Law Enforcement purposes, and for other purposes.
CALEA's purpose is to enhance the ability of law enforcement and intelligence agencies to conduct electronic surveillance by requiring that telecommunications carriers and manufacturers of telecommunications equipment modify and design their equipment, facilities, and services to ensure that they have built-in surveillance capabilities, allowing federal agencies to monitor all telephone, broadband internet, and VoIP traffic in real-time.

The original reason for adopting CALEA was the Federal Bureau of Investigation's worry that increasing use of digital telephone exchange switches would make tapping phones at the phone company's central office harder and slower to execute, or in some cases impossible. Since the original requirement to add CALEA-compliant interfaces required phone companies to modify or replace hardware and software in their systems, U.S. Congress included funding for a limited time period to cover such network upgrades. CALEA was passed into law on October 25, 1994 and came into force on January 1, 1995.

In the years since CALEA was passed it has been greatly expanded to include all VoIP and broadband internet traffic. From 2004 to 2007 there was a 62 percent growth in the number of wiretaps performed under CALEA -- and more than 3,000 percent growth in interception of internet data such as email.[1]

By 2007, the FBI had spent $39 million on its DCSNet system, which collects, stores, indexes, and analyzes communications data.

posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 01:10 AM
How about a walled garden:

A walled garden is an analogy used in various senses in information technology. In the telecommunications and media industries, a "walled garden" refers to a carrier's or service provider's control over applications, content, and media on platforms (such as mobile devices) and restriction of convenient access to non-approved applications or content. For example, in telecommunications, the services and applications accessible on any device on a given wireless network were historically tightly controlled by the mobile operators. The mobile operators determined which applications from which developers were available on a device's home portal or home page. This has long been a central issue constraining the telecommunications sector, as developers face huge hurdles in getting their applications onto devices and into the hands of end-users.

More generally, a walled garden refers to a closed or exclusive set of information services provided for users. This is in contrast to giving consumers unrestricted access to applications and content. Similar to a "real" walled garden, when a user is in a walled garden they are unable to escape this area unless it is through the designated entry/exit points, or the walled garden is removed. Removing the walled garden is done typically by complying with the terms of removal, such as updating firmware, registering account, or cleaning machine from infected files to use the examples given in this article.

this walled garden is what China was wanting... and what North Korea has if im not mistaken... its not content filtering by the ISP we have to really worry about its having them put up a walled Garden to outside US dns servers, when you connect to the internet/web/link, through your ISP, you are using their DNS servers, when your DSL/cable modem authenticates to their network with the user name password they give you to use, its coded in the configuration of the Customer Premise Device, DNS is what basically is the internet...
Domain Name Server: this translates the computer's hostname to and from the ip address, and IP addresses are registered through compaines like ARIN: American Registry for Internet Numbers:

Established in December 1997, the American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) is a Regional Internet Registry (RIR) incorporated in the Commonwealth of Virginia, USA. ARIN is one of five (5) RIRs.

posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 01:18 AM
reply to post by SLAYER69

After we have caved in to TSA in our lives does anyone think a little thing like internet censorship is going to have a problem becoming reality? Hell no. Americans can get duped into anything. They are grade AAA saps when it comes to believing BS.

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