Jewish Soldiers say "Hello" to a Palestinian child on his way to school, page 3

reply to post by gladtobehere

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if tomorrow the UN decided that your country now belongs to someone else.

And what country was here before 1948? British empire. And local Arab population were ok with that. Before that there was Turkish empire. And local Arab population were ok with that. Shall we continue into past? Punch line will be the same. Local Arab/Greek population were ok with that.
So this is lame excuse. It is all about keeping Jews out of here, Palestinians do not interest Arab leaders since there was no Palestine between 1948-1967, and even some of Palestinian leaders them self do not speak about creating Palestine,only about removing Israel.

reply to post by bluemirage5

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Palestinian death toll in Gaza reaches 1000

So far, 1,010 Palestinians have been killed, among them 315 children and 95 women, Dr Moawiya Hassanein, the head of Gaza's medical emergency services, told the Guardian. The number of injured after 19 days of fighting stood at 4,700, he said.

Counting casualties of Gaza War

The Al Mazen Centre says it only confirms a death after it has interviewed individual families, and methodically checked names, ages and addresses. It has told the BBC that 1,268 people were killed, among them 288 children and 103 women. Dr Issam Younis, the Director of Al Mazen, said his field workers were documenting every death. "We investigate every case, we meet their families and relatives to have details from the first source and we verify every case." Dr Younis said 85% of those killed were not combatants, whom he defined as those taking up arms against Israeli troops. "When a policeman is bombed on his morning march, he is not a combatant," he said. Many in Israel would contest that definition. The Al Mazen Centre is currently investigating 43 other cases, some of which reportedly involve the deaths of minors.

Two of many reputable news sources which provide similar numbers. Anything else you have to say about my post however?

Youtuber's profile page

On a personal level I take great offence to this thread.

The OP does not even look to be Palestinian, and yet chooses the raise awareness of this video, without even researching the origins of the conflict, or the origins of the poster who put the video up on youtube.

If you look a little closer, you will find the youtube poster is in the States.....

There is enough problems within our own cultures, lets work through those first, before we wade in with ignorance into others.

There is never smoke without fire

This may be off topic, but I think it applies.
Before this mourning I had never heard about the 1914 Christmas Truce:

During World War I, in the winter of 1914, on the battlefields of Flanders, one of the most unusual events in all of human history took place. The Germans had been in a fierce battle with the British and French. Both sides were dug in, safe in muddy, man-made trenches six to eight feet deep that seemed to stretch forever. All of a sudden, German troops began to put small Christmas trees, lit with candles, outside of their trenches. Then, they began to sing songs. Across the way, in the "no man's land" between them, came songs from the British and French troops. Incredibly, many of the Germans, who had worked in England before the war, were able to speak good enough English to propose a "Christmas" truce. The British and French troops, all along the miles of trenches, accepted. In a few places, allied troops fired at the Germans as they climbed out of their trenches. But the Germans were persistent and Christmas would be celebrated even under the threat of impending death. According to Stanley Weintraub, who wrote about this event in his book, Silent Night, "signboards arose up and down the trenches in a variety of shapes. They were usually in English, or - from the Germans - in fractured English. Rightly, the Germans assumed that the other side could not read traditional gothic lettering, and that few English understood spoken German. 'YOU NO FIGHT, WE NO FIGHT' was the most frequently employed German message. Some British units improvised 'MERRY CHRISTMAS' banners and waited for a response. More placards on both sides popped up." A spontaneous truce resulted. Soldiers left their trenches, meeting in the middle to shake hands. The first order of business was to bury the dead who had been previously unreachable because of the conflict. Then, they exchanged gifts. Chocolate cake, cognac, postcards, newspapers, tobacco. In a few places, along the trenches, soldiers exchanged rifles for soccer balls and began to play games. It didn't last forever. In fact, some of the generals didn't like it at all and commanded their troops to resume shooting at each other. After all, they were in a war. Soldiers eventually did resume shooting at each other. But only after, in a number of cases, a few days of wasting rounds of ammunition shooting at stars in the sky instead of soldiers in the opposing army across the field. For a few precious moments there was peace on earth good will toward men.

Snopes

More detailed account

The story actually brought a tear to my eye, as I saw for the first time in a long time , a small glimmer of hope for mankind.That maybe the common man could see past the minority forces that are shaping his destiny, and proclaim what so many of us see as common sense. That our similarities far outweigh our differences even though at this point in out social evolution the screaming about our differences seems to drown out our similarities.

Then I came here.

It isn't so much what the OP said as I know a little about the Israeli/Palestine conflict, I cannot claim to be any kind of expert. It has been the responses that reminded just how far we have gone. The glimmer of hope has changed back to "I hope we figure this out before we create our own extinction".

Anyway, just thought I would share that story with you as by the end of the day this post will gone into the oblivion as more and more posts expel hatred and the world will go on "business as usual"

reply to post by lifeissacred

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Do yu have a more reliable source?

The last time I heard something like that, the Israelis had trouble finding many of the names on the population roll!

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge

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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by gladtobehere

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if tomorrow the UN decided that your country now belongs to someone else.

And what country was here before 1948? British empire. And local Arab population were ok with that. Before that there was Turkish empire. And local Arab population were ok with that. Shall we continue into past? Punch line will be the same. Local Arab/Greek population were ok with that.
So this is lame excuse. It is all about keeping Jews out of here, Palestinians do not interest Arab leaders since there was no Palestine between 1948-1967, and even some of Palestinian leaders them self do not speak about creating Palestine,only about removing Israel.

edit on 28-6-2011 by ZeroKnowledge because: (no reason given)

Please, lets continue into the past. Allow me. Here are some maps of Palestine. Know why the UK called it the "Palestine Royal Commission"? Because the report reflected the name of the country i.e. Palestine.

Proceeding on our educational venture, allow me to present some maps of Palestine (all prior to 1948), one in color, one in black and white and yet another which shows the beginning stages of a geographical survey (the border can be seen extending southwards).

There is a blatant attempt to constantly spin, distort and re-write history. Thankfully, the internet has provided a medium to spread truth in the face of these endless lies.

reply to post by bluemirage5

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The BBC and the Guardian aren't reliable? The medical personnel who dealt with the bodies aren't a reliable source? The multiple human rights organisations who had people inside Gaza at the time aren't reliable? Mate I know you're trying to stick up for Israel and that's fair enough, but dodging any and all criticism and trying to act like this sort of stuff doesn't/hasn't happened is not going to get us anywhere.

Israel's actions are perpetuating this conflict, they don't do anything to alleviate hostility, merely create more of it. So for the third time, I ask, what does Israel achieve by engaging in massive aerial bombardment like what we saw with operation cast lead? Also why is the policy of occupation and expanding settlements pursued when it is one of the main causes of hostility and does nothing but create criticism for Israel?

Take this video for example, I'm aware Israel has genuine security concerns, but how can you expect people to look at a child being faced with armed soldiers from a foreign nation on his streets, stopping and searching him on his way to school, and not feel a hint of anger or frustration at the occupation?

reply to post by gladtobehere

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Please, lets continue into the past. Allow me. Here are some maps of Palestine. Know why the UK called it the "Palestine Royal Commission"? Because the report reflected the name of the country i.e. Palestine.

Well, let us continue in the past indeed.
Do you know what is vilayet of Beirut? It is Jaffo and to North including Lebanon.
Saljak of Jerusalem? Vilayet of Hijaz? This is how Turks called it ,there was no "country of Palestine" then and no "citizen of country Palestine" spoke against it.
Tell me, how local Palestinian armies were called in 1948 war? Any P.D.F? And P.L.A?
Or maybe something like: Arab liberation army,Holy war army. I thought it was armies of country of Palestine and yet the name of country itself is not there. How weird,don't you think? Country, after all. According to you,of course.

Nazis were oppressing jews before .. now we got zionist jews oppressing arabs
even the small children .. wtf .. they will be traumatise for the rest of their life
if they dont get shell on the next day

did anyone learn a lesson here ?
the oppressors(evil) always loose at the end

Hitler invaded Poland with the Reichtag building false flag attack

sound familiar ?
9/11 was also a flase flag to invade the ME
planned by Mossad/CIA and alCIAda

just search for the 5 israelis mossad dancing after the attack
they knew that false flag attack would serve their interest
arabs werent celebrating.. they knew they would get a full retaliation of the usa


bit by bit the zionist regime are consuming many soul and much ground

i would be curious to have a 2011 update on the map

but there is a lot of good jews .. the friendly ones .. the patriotic ones


so not all jew are evil .. only the ones supporting bibi regime
God bless them all

reply to post by YourPopRock

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That's completely acceptable because the Palestinians are known to strap bombs on their children. So it must be routine that Israeli soldiers inspect children within a given proximity and make certain that they haven't had a bomb strapped to them by their parents.

If anyone is to blame here...it's the Palestinians themselves.

And yes...I will always support Israel.

reply to post by Ben81

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Ben81, i have stupid question - why Negev desert is green on this map? Even now there are very few people and yet your map claims that it is Palestinian land. Do you care to tell me the names of Palestinians who owned rocks? Why is Judean desert green? Who are those Palestinian Arabs who owned all the rocks there?
Why there is no British land? Clearly British government owned land in the area, being, you know, the government. And owing such land as deserts that nobody inhabited. Why is it not on the map, Ben81?
Those maps actually play with your mind.
They show you land under Jewish ownership - in white. And all the rest ,does not matter who owns it -Palestinian Arabs, British government ,scorpions, Martians,in green. Do you see the neat trick, Ben81?

It is like creating map that shows what land French speaking Canadian own in white, and all the rest in green hinting that it is all English-speaking Canadian's land. No government land, no swamps, no nature reserves. Only white and green and mind games.

Originally posted by laiguana
reply to post by YourPopRock

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That's completely acceptable because the Palestinians are known to strap bombs on their children. So it must be routine that Israeli soldiers inspect children within a given proximity and make certain that they haven't had a bomb strapped to them by their parents.

If anyone is to blame here...it's the Palestinians themselves.

And yes...I will always support Israel.

Im sure they would prefer the TSA full patdown search from perv agents then having a search with gun into their heads
that will traumatise them for the rest of their lifes

young jews were oppressed exactly like that before
it was not acceptable then .. and not acceptable now
shame on you to support that kind of actions with defense reason
IDF kills arabs everyday .. but its ok .. because they could be terrorist
same reasons again and again and again .. hamas hamas hamas rocket rocket ..
(that explode 99% of the time in open field)

remember the Gaza and LEbanon war ?? 5000 killed mostly civilians
and 20000 wounded

on the israelis side .. 15 killed (10 by friendly fire)
so its ok to kill others but not okay when someone retaliate because he lost his entire familly

again shame on you

reply to post by seedofchucky

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israel is the worlds bully

Bully? I'd be pretty peeved off too if I were a nation and practically all of the middle east was at war with me. Why isn't anyone looking at the big picture? But when it comes to Israel and Palestine, they've both got blood on their hands. . that is the heart of war. Just because we don't agree with the media doesn't mean we've got to go for the exact opposite. The majority if not all of us are not there in the midst of the Israeli and Palestinian conflict. The casualty number is upsetting, but I for one wasn't particularly proud of Obama for standing up to Israel and telling them they needed to ethnically cleanse a bunch of Jews from their ancient villages and cities to make way for Palestine.

reply to post by Ben81

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remember the Gaza and LEbanon war ?? 5000 killed mostly civilians and 20000 wounded on the israelis side .. 15 killed (10 by friendly fire) so its ok to kill others but not okay when someone retaliate because he lost his entire familly

Ben81, math is precise science. It is not painting map green as one wishes.
So Palestinians killed in Gaza war
1417
Lebanese killed in Second Lebanon war
1220
Sum is grim 2637.
Not 5000.
Israelis killed in Gaza war - 13. 4 indeed of friendly fire.
Israelis killed in Second Lebanon war - 163
It is 176, Ben81.
Not 15.
Hope it helps in your search for truth.

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by Ben81

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remember the Gaza and LEbanon war ?? 5000 killed mostly civilians and 20000 wounded on the israelis side .. 15 killed (10 by friendly fire) so its ok to kill others but not okay when someone retaliate because he lost his entire familly

Ben81, math is precise science. It is not painting map green as one wishes.
So Palestinians killed in Gaza war
1417
Lebanese killed in Second Lebanon war
1220
Sum is grim 2637.
Not 5000.
Israelis killed in Gaza war - 13. 4 indeed of friendly fire.
Israelis killed in Second Lebanon war - 163
It is 176, Ben81.
Not 15.
Hope it helps in your search for truth.

Very easy to play with number my friend
MSM do that all the time ..

but if we take your number apx 3000 for the arab side
and 200 for the israeli side

who abused of their mighty military hardware (paid by us tx payers) ?
who commited war crimes here ? .. certainly one side more then the other and by far
usualy in a fair war .. both sides are having heavy looses ..

who doesnt want peace here ? quite obvious

Bibi regime is the ME bully
and constantly commit war crimes

many zionist rabbi told that 1 jew = a thousand arab
and that the arab are subhuman who only diserve s*** being spilled on their gardens

reply to post by YourPopRock

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mabey if people would stop blowing them selves up they wouldnt have to check every one for bombs and hey at least these kids arent gonna be able to shoot up a school or hurt there classmates and with out offending too many bleeding hearts that wasent that bad of a investigation in to the kid just searcehd his bag and they never even touched the kid in the usa the cops would have either tackled said child or if an idiot was on duty maby shoot them....it seemed like they were going out of the way to not point weapons at the kid but still be prepaired on the offchance we were dealin with a pintsized suicide bomber hell most americans get a rougher grouping from the tsa these days least we know there problay not pedophiles and just from the other side of the coin the soilder on the right looks a bit scared half way through how you think he feels having to search the kid because he dosent know if the kid could blow him up for something a book or a corrupt mullah told him to do id think id be more mad about having kids blowing them selves up then having my kids bag inspected just my opinion though and if ive offended any one i apologize as tthat was not my intent

reply to post by ladyinwaiting

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they didnt pont there weapons at that kid once least not in the video i watched they jestured with tthere gun accross there chest but didnt point it at them what video were u watching

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