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Originally posted by OldCorp
I'll be the first to admit that I don't know NEARLY enough about the Bible.
I don't talk about the "Synagogue of Satan" because I can't say for sure to whom John was referring.
That is why I'm glad that the ONLY requirement for salvation is the acceptance of Christ as my Lord and Savior. Everything else is just window dressing to be resolved in Heaven.
You're completely wrong about the Jews too. God made an EVERLASTING covenant with Abraham and his descendants through Issac. To dismiss that as a fact only shows your agenda, which is obvious by your use of the slanderous "xtians."
Originally posted by Conspirus
reply to post by OldCorp
Nice work putting your original post together - I'm sure that took some time. I have heard my father talk about this before - alas it will be interesting to see how it will turn out
As for your reply to MLB34, I happen to have researched some of what he's talkin about so here goes. (BTW I can't find his original post for the life of me..so if I'm catchin the end of a discussion long past pardon me)
Originally posted by OldCorp
I'll be the first to admit that I don't know NEARLY enough about the Bible.
I like your humble approach. Neither do I know enough
I don't talk about the "Synagogue of Satan" because I can't say for sure to whom John was referring.
The synagoge of satan was the secret society during Jesus' time, basically the Pharisees as MLB34 said, but also the Sadducees and most importantly the Essenes - of which was the group that claimed to have the hidden mystical knowledges. There is another passage somewhere where Jesus calls the Pharisees a "broad of vipers." This was because he knew that they were part of the secret society, only pretending to be part of the Lord's synagogue. Judas was a member of the Essenes as well.
That is why I'm glad that the ONLY requirement for salvation is the acceptance of Christ as my Lord and Savior. Everything else is just window dressing to be resolved in Heaven.
Agreed it IS fun to try and figure things out though.
You're completely wrong about the Jews too. God made an EVERLASTING covenant with Abraham and his descendants through Issac. To dismiss that as a fact only shows your agenda, which is obvious by your use of the slanderous "xtians."
Yes you are right in that God made an everlasting covenant with Abraham and his descendants. I used to believe that ALL Jews were the same and good; but my recent research has lead me to believe otherwise.
However, The Thirteenth Tribe MLB34 mentions is probably the tribe of Dan, a certain tribe of the Israelites who was said to have never given up their idol worship, practiced the sacred mysteries, and who you can trace certain Presidents of the US as well as the royal family of Britain back to geneaologically; so basically this tribe's descendants have corrupted alot of even our own society and are speculated to be leading the world to a certain destiny; Rothschild is one of them, as MLB34 said, but there are many more. They are the puppeteers of the reality in our faces. I cannot give you the reference, but there is a verse somewhere talking about the end times where it says that "the north shall wage war with the south" possibly meaning the tribe of Dan vs the rest of the the Jews. This is the serious case of the wolf in sheep's clothing.
In high school I always used to wonder..."Hmm...if Adolf Hitler's a descendant from a Jew, why did he do the Holocaust?" Years later after some research, Hitler turns out to be a bastard child of the Rothschild family, so not just any Jew but descendant of the tribe of Dan. He actually made sure he killed Abraham's lineage Jews during the Holocaust and concentration camps and did his best to let those Jews from the lineage of the tribe of Dan go.
MLB34 mentions the passage where it says "the very elect shall be deceived" concerning the end times. So I'm assuming it may be something even well-educated Christians would least expect. Only time will tell with this as well.
I know it's a strange concept, but researchable and I highly recommend it; it will throw your world upside down and for those of you born again Christians, you will be even more thankful of Jesus' death and resurrection. Basically, when God said Satan is the prince of the world, the great deceiver, and the father of lies, He wasn't kidding. I used to think Satan was just the lil red guy with horns who tries to get you to screw up every now and then; no -- one of the greatest feats he has ever accomplished was to make the world believe he doesn't exist, when in fact, he is more real than we could have ever hoped or imagined. And if he's real, then God's real.
Originally posted by OldCorp
God doesn't "set us up for a fall" at all. He has given us free will to make our own choices; sometimes those choices are bad ones and we pay the price, just like any disobedient child.
And the reward for faithful service is an eternity in Paradise
because we are ALL chosen; it's just that God has decided to work His will through the nation of Israel. After all, He had to pick someone now didn't he?
Originally posted by Munfett
Most phophecies in the "bible" was given to the prophets by dimensional time travelers. They put these thoughts into their mind and these men wrote them down. I also find it odd that the jewish nation got most of their history from moses who recored it from a "burning bush". After they showed fear to the giants in the land they were supposed to take the loving god they served condemned an entire generation to die in the desert. I seem to think this was to erase the true past of those people by exterminating that generation.
Revelations was written by John who had an out of body experience (OBE) which is based on eastern mysticism, not exactly in line with the god of the bible. He saw creatures that the egyptians wrote about. He saw things he was told not to write down.
We are witness to a multifaction showdown of beings that have their own agenda. Many of them have been "prepping" mankind for thousands of years to buy into this crap. We are either hated or just being used depending wich faction you are controlled by. Humans are taught to hate, it's not natural. As long as we keep picking sides and hating each other we will continue to be the pawns for these negative energy beings.
Originally posted by Eldensword
"Unfortunately, the irony here is that religious fanatics who believe in the magic power of scriptures are the ones who cause the majority of problems in the world. Because their beloved scriptures dictate the way they live their lives we have waged wars across the centuries.
Religion may well turn out to be involved in the next Great War, however it will be in the capacity of a self fulfilling prophecy because people are foolish enough to believe them."
Originally posted by goldentorch
The thing that strikes me is how these ME myths always have such a depressive suicidal core to their belief system. You can't validate your existence till you're dead, know true joy till you're dead. Add to that their bloodlusts. Somebody in the next villiage picked up sticks on a Sunday so they have to come and kill you and all your livestock and make a blood and burnt offering to their God, just to paraphrase some of the insane psychotic muderous 'End of Time' scenarios.
Ezekiel 35The word of the Lord came to me: “Son of man, set your face against Mount Seir, and prophesy against it, and say to it, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, Mount Seir, and I will stretch out my hand against you, and I will make you a desolation and a waste. I will lay your cities waste, and you shall become a desolation, and you shall know that I am the Lord. Because you cherished perpetual enmity and gave over the people of Israel to the power of the sword at the time of their calamity, at the time of their final punishment, therefore, as I live, declares the Lord God, I will prepare you for blood, and blood shall pursue you; because you did not hate bloodshed, therefore blood shall pursue you.