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The Gog/Magog War Prophesied In Ezekiel 38-39 Is Beginning

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posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 01:31 AM
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This is very impressive work. Prophecy is unfolding very rapidly, your dead on with that.

To the people asking about evolution/dinosaurs/3.5 billion years of universe/other "theories", I have thought of these same things time and time again, and there is actually an explanation for these theories. And it comes from my past job experience.

I used to build storage sheds, and you start with all the basic stuff. Nails, wood, siding, rebar, you know, stuff like that. This stuff was delivered to the shop on trucks. Who knows how long the stuff had been sitting at the places that sold it to us. We'll say a year. We put the stuff together and made those storage sheds you see in backyards. We made like 4 of these a day, and delivered 2 at least. To those owners, those sheds were new. They were put there on day 1 and were 1 day old. But the pieces to that shed were older, and the trees for the wood were much much older. But to the owners, it was 1 day old. Brand new.

My point- It would take matter to make the physical universe we see. Don't you think God would have had junk tucked away and put this universe together, and that junk was billions of years old because God is infinitely years old? And so when scientists carbon date or analyze the age of the earth, they are actually analyzing pieces and scraps of what was used to make the new earth?

And also, doesn't the Bible say that God will set it in their hearts to believe the lies? Look, I found a fossil, there is no God!!! I mean, that guy must have had little faith to begin with, and God put that fossil there to test him. And lo and behold. He and many others bought into the lie, and lost faith in their Lord, the Creator.

I saw a nasa video where they actually made a mini universe thing in a bottle. Put white and black foam pieces in a bottle, vacuum sealed it, and the pieces started to pull together in resemblance to a solar system. Those foam pieces- Old. The bottle- Old. The project going on inside the bottle....NEW!

The Bible was right on science issues before science even knew! It knew the Earth was suspended on nothing, it knew our circulatory system was set up like our oceans, and scientists did not know these two things until much later. Not even the prophets really knew what they were writing, they just wrote it.

And to the author, keep your eye on the pope and Raj Patel.




posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 01:42 AM
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One gets the impression, there are those, who can hardly await their Gog and Maghog. There is a twinkle of perverted lust in their eye as soon as they speak of it. I wish I had the power to make them all disapear, silent and without a smell, by the clap of my hands.



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 01:52 AM
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ive been visiting this site for quite awhile now and one thing you can always count on just like a good soap opera is that when you come back after not visiting for awhile you will always get a piece on the bible is prediciting the end of the world and its happening now lmao seriously how many times do these threads pop up?? and yet people still believe that it's finally coming to fruition, i suppose if you say it enough it actually might happen one day lol



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 02:11 AM
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Originally posted by Zamini

But before you jump me with your entire ATS-congregation, know this, [color=gold] organized religion is dying.



oh noes!

This quote must be truez.

Surely no actual responsible world leader
would be involved in Biblical scripture in a way
that merits any discussion on a conspiracy forum.

/end sarcasm







Say isn't that Netanyahu
the Prime Minister of Israel?

?

David Grouchy



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 02:16 AM
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Originally posted by Kryties
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Fine, I'll address the OP.

The 'prophecies' of the bible are just like that of Nostradamus and other so-called 'prophets'. They are written in such an ambiguous way as that they could fit any number of scenarios - and that is what hooks people into believing them.


The OP is like most Xtians, mind made up with 100% smug self-righteous certainty. No new info need apply- whether it can be proved or disproved. No humility or even curiosity to deal with inconsistencies- just ignore them. Pivotal in prophecy:

Who does Revelations refer to when it condemns "the synagogue of satan" ? I've never seen a single one of them address this.

Rev 2:9 "I know your afflictions and your poverty--yet you are rich! I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a Synagogue of Satan."
Rev 3:9 "I will make those who are of the Synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you."

OP needs to read up on the Khazars who are present day mostly ATHEISTIC zionists- the direct spiritual descendents of the Biblical Pharisees. Still are. The Khazars were from the area called Magog (referred to themselves as such). It was not the Russians or the Muslims.
Read Schlomo Sand or "The Thirteenth Tribe" by jewish scholar Arthur Koestler who was assassinated for his documentation. It is the key to why the OP is among those prophesied "even the Elect shall be deceived". And they have been. Revelations itself warns that "any who add or the Book of Revelation" will reap the wrath of God in plagues. Look at America. She has supported these Khazar fakes like no other country, yet since 1948, she has steadily deteriorated. If the khazars had not been the fake jews, that should have made America richly blessed, yet since Rothschild State began, US fortunes have rotted- morally, financially and spiritually. "By their fruits you shall know them". What are the fruits of the khazar fakes? Every abomination a Xtian claims to hate have been sponsored by THEM- not Muslims: Abortion, Pornography, Promiscuity/Homosecuality, Usuary and rampant economic fraud and destruction, perverted Hollywood, endless wars in the M.E., drug and sex trafficking, failing education system.... Rather than apply ALL scripture and test theories accroding to ALL God's word- cherry picking abounds. Discernment is needed.
PS: I too was raised with these Israel=God's Chosen doctrine. But The Word itself refutes this.



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 02:25 AM
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It is always interesting to me that the atheist ones on ATS who slander Christians as religiously violent and dangerous and even stupid for believing in God and the Bible, are of the belief structure that when harnessed in atheist State power, have murdered, imprisoned, impoverished and oppressed more people than Christians in all their history. They slaughtered over two hundred million people in the Soviet Union alone. A brutal atheist State is currently starving people to death in North Korea. These intolerant liars imprison and oppress anyone who does not deny the existence of God and perform their collective group think when they have the power to do so. Hearing or seeing a Christian creates a gutteral response of a snake in the presense of a mouse. It is irrational and inhuman. That they ride high horses of self righteousness pointing the bloody fingers of their recent history at Christians, without even a doubt in their sense of superiority, is the rant of collective insanity.

From reading the responses, it is not fair to blame all the piss and vinegar on atheists as there are also New Agers/occultists, and Muslims involved in this crazy dance of ignorance's closed minds and hate on ATS. That any Muslim would have the nerve to play hater and victim of Christians while Egyptian Muslims are on a rampage slaughtering, raping and terrorizing Christians would make any human with a soul and a developed conscience tremble for the sake of their own hipcroacy. And the pagan occultists can ponder their glorious history of human sacrifice and the attempted genocide of Christians in Europe. There are no innocent and pure creatures here pure enough to be throwing stones at Christians and denouncing Jesus and God of the Bible. They all have histories, illusions and problems of their own to ponder and handle before they go after anyone else. That would be - if they had any character and self respect.

Finally I want to say, thanks for the review of current reality in light of prophecy. You are right and created a great presentation of the situtation as it is unfolding in our time.



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 02:26 AM
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we're entitled to our idiosyncratic ways to deal with reality.
some of these ways are of course utterly stupid while others yield more success.

i'll refrain from commenting on the choice you made.
i for one don't go for old stories in a book (that was produced in a specific place and era with specific political reasons) as a guideline for my future.

as others have already commented.... one of the risks we run is that a lot of people in power do indeed use that some kinda story to deploy their plans, creating self-fulfilling prophecies. Has nothing to do with the book itself and everything with the willingness to fool poor minds.



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 02:31 AM
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Originally posted by sting130u
And also, doesn't the Bible say that God will set it in their hearts to believe the lies? Look, I found a fossil, there is no God!!! I mean, that guy must have had little faith to begin with, and God put that fossil there to test him. And lo and behold. He and many others bought into the lie, and lost faith in their Lord, the Creator.


So basically god himself sets us up for the fall and then condemns us? What a fun guy.


So we're supposed to have faith in a douchebag who 'tests' us and tricks us at every turn? And what exactly is the reward for this faith when none of us are apparently his 'chosen ones'?

When people have blind faith in something they'll make up an infinite number of excuses to defend their faith even though it makes absolutely no logical sense. I mean seriously, even if god did exist how do YOU know what he was thinking about? You've just basically put 2 and 2 together and ended up with 0.

I'd much rather have faith in my socks. At least they keep me warm at night.



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 02:31 AM
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Now that video scares me.... idk if I am getting it correctly but.... the Rabi to the the PM the he needs to speed up the coming of Moshiach ,the Messiah. But from what I understand but could be wrong the PM could become the Moshiach if he brings on Har Magiddo the final battle. An the PM is saying "We are. We are."



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 02:33 AM
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Is it possible that whoever controls this planet wrote the Bible and are manipulating global events to make it's prophecies come true to deceive people?

If the same entities have been in control of this planet for at least the last few thousand years, it may be possible.



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by sara123123
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It is always interesting to me that the atheist ones on ATS who slander Christians as religiously violent and dangerous and even stupid for believing in God and the Bible, are of the belief structure that when harnessed in atheist State power, have murdered, imprisoned, impoverished and oppressed more people than Christians in all their history. They slaughtered over two hundred million people in the Soviet Union alone. A brutal atheist State is currently starving people to death in North Korea. These intolerant liars imprison and oppress anyone who does not deny the existence of God and perform their collective group think when they have the power to do so. Hearing or seeing a Christian creates a gutteral response of a snake in the presense of a mouse. It is irrational and inhuman. That they ride high horses of self righteousness pointing the bloody fingers of their recent history at Christians, without even a doubt in their sense of superiority, is the rant of collective insanity.


Errr this has nothing to do with atheism. It's about people just being total nutjobs who are power hungry. These people fall into two categories

Power hungry, religious nutjobs and
Power hungry nutjobs.

Even if there was no religion people would find a way to screw things up.

God or no god we just love taking it up the a** and dishing it out in equal measure



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 02:40 AM
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I believe the final battle of Gog and Magog is scheduled to take place per the scriptures after the Millenium, after the 1000 years of peace where Christ reigns and Satan is again loosed for a little season before the final destruction of the world, correct me if I am wrong...Actually, I am thinking of the battle in the Valley of Megiddo, you may well be correct OP. Keep your powder dry folks, and more importantly, cleanse your souls from within, this is going to be one bumpy ride.
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posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by bigrex
I believe the final battle of Gog and Magog is scheduled to take place per the scriptures after the Millenium, after the 1000 years of peace where Christ reigns and Satan is again loosed for a little season before the final destruction of the world, correct me if I am wrong.


Actually it's going to happen at the next edition of the WWE Royal Rumble where John Cena and Jesus Christ become WWE tag team champions followed shortly by the return of the Undertaker who proceeds to destroy everyone in a no holds barred cage match along with Satan and Kane and then detonates a tactical nuke from ECW headquarters signalling the end of televised wrestling.

So you were just a tiny bit off.



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 02:57 AM
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it's metaphor / literal / metaphor / literal endeavor, as i've come to understand it. for example, have you ever read the book of 1enoch? it's what is called hebrew pseudopigraphia. one of the books that is quoted from by jesus, his disciples and even an old testament text or two, but isn't included in most modern day bibles.
you have GOT to listen to this guy and then compare what he's saying to the words in the text (ignore his speaking voice, and just hang in there till he quotes the verses and gives his opinion on it (listen to the whole thing, i'm not kidding)


what makes that interesting to me because of this gem

Google Video Link


the ancient sumerians, akkadians and egyptians, often associated items of power with their owners (or perceived owners), in other words, a temple and its god would sometimes become synonmous in the text (at least in the way we've tried to translate the hieroglyphs and cuneiforms). the sumerian abzu is the same thing as what these men are talking about in the videos i've just linked ----> the abzu=the abyss=the bottomless pit=the black hole/worm hole

i theorized the ancient people associated god with the mechanism used to create the universe, et.al, the gods became associated with the wormhole, and it was due to it being an order of magnitude metaphor. they used wormholes to travel to and from earth, and as a result, became synonmous with them. and the galaxies were created by super massive black holes, so god created the universe. (that's not to say that there's not a sentient supernatural god behind the function of the super massive black hole, just pointing out that when you study this stuff, the really interesting metaphors start explaining themselves, but you have to be willing to accept what you see long enough to determine if what you're seeing is right or not.



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 03:02 AM
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Your social problem doesn't let you focus in the topic. Don't ask me what social problem, ask me what is the topic instead.



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 03:07 AM
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Originally posted by OldCorp

Originally posted by jeanne75018
Please OldCorp, could you display another avatar? Displaying a weapon is not right. I feel it like an aggression towards me.
edit on 28/6/2011 by jeanne75018 because: (no reason given)


Can't you see the smile on my face? Unless you have antlers - or try to take it away from me - you have nothing to fear.


How about this one?



edit on 6/28/2011 by OldCorp because: (no reason given)


That is rather akin to my stating that I am somehow interpreting your finger pointing avatar Mrs. Jeanne in Paris as a personal agression, rather absurd.



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 03:19 AM
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Originally posted by TheUniverse
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That in itself is astonishing and unprecedented, but to have it predicted thousands of years ago defies logic unless there is Someone looking out for them, and using supernatural means to tell us all about it (and in the process giving that group of people hope that they have NOT been abandoned by their Father in Heaven and that one day they would once again be welcomed home to the land which was promised to them.)


And again begs the question what does Religion/ Anti-Christ/ God/ Deities have to do with the history on Earth before humans arose which happens to be around 5 billion years old

The lands were there long before humans made up some Deity/God that promised any land to them.


With all due respect "TheUniverse" you did not answer the OP's question to you here. How did ancient scripture foretell the re-establishment of Israel which only happened as recently as the 1960's? For that matter, how did it foretell the destruction of Israel?
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posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 03:21 AM
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That's pretty awesome. Thanks. I have my own theories on these things which of course don't involve a god of any form or type but are pretty weird nonetheless.

I'd really like to hang out with you someday. For real



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 03:23 AM
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Op everyday is doomsday on ATS. If its not religion its big business if its not big business its Aliens or demons. I appreciate that it took a lot of time to write the thread but religion itself has more holes in it than swiss cheese. If we are to accept that your right and everyone else is wrong then we must accept the fact that we are nothing but pawns set up on a board for the amusement of others.

IMHO religion is nothing but a way to control the populace and if there were any truths to it in religious scripture then those in charge would have removed it by now and replaced it with something a little bit more controlling like they have done over the years with mayan scripts and of course the bible.

To add if the prophecies are indeed true then why not change the outcome? I mean if I was in charge of a species and I could see future events that were detrimental to the survival of the species I would certainly do something about it. Unless of course I was just as a bad as the species themselves. Which would make the all seeing eye not so pleasant after all. In fact we could almost get away with calling these higher powers 'false gods'


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posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 03:25 AM
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TextWhich vision of God is more accurate? To be honest, I choose to believe in Jesus Christ and not in the Lord of Hosts. Even if they are one and the same, I just repulse the idea of God as being indulgent in the annihilation of billions of his children, regardless of their race or creed. And that, OP, is why I choose to believe, despite how well researched and clear your arguments are, that you are wrong. If politicians send their armies to slaughter, God has nothing to do with it. Mass murder is not God's will. Genocide is our decision and we must not elude our responsibility in owning it up.


If you refuse the validity of the Jewish Scriptures, your New Testament has no validity and no foundation to stand on. GOD being 'indulgent' in annihilation is your choice of perception on the matter.



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