reply to post by OldCorp
Actually you (as do so many so called "Christians" in the world today) have a view of End Times, based on little more than wild speculation....most
of it from quite modern sources. In fact even speaking of "The Antichrist" as if he is someone having anything to do with The Book of Revelation or
even Ezekiel is completely in error. The word "Antichrist" is not even mentioned once in The Book of Revelation....nor in Ezekiel. In fact the term
"Antichrist" can ONLY be found in 4 passages. All were penned by Apostle John within the books of first and second John. When read in context it is
completely clear that John was speaking of a 'spirit of Antichrist' that anyone could possess...he is literally speaking of someone who is against
Christ.....Not unlike Anti-smoking, or Anti-hunting...etc.
John is writing his letter to a Church which is in it's last days, due to so many people within being overrun with anti-christian attitudes......Keep
in mind these verses from John are the ONLY place in the Bible which even mentions the term....The concept of the Antichrist as some silver tongued
politician who will take control of the world is nothing but a radical misreprentation of the verses in John. By associating the term Antichrist with
various books of the Bible alleged to be about the End of the World, a vast and completely inaccurate mythology has been built up which is
surprisingly based on nothing at all, really.
As for the Book of Revelation....The book itself is considered one of many various Apocalypses found in the Ancient World....
"An Apocalypse (Greek: ἀποκάλυψις apokálypsis; "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the
majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted"
The concept that it is about events which are yet to come to pass(the Futurist interpretation), is actually quite modern itself...and completely
ignores the various other interpretation of the book given throughout history. In fact, it wasn't till the 19th century that the Futurist
Interpretation replaced the Historicism Interpretation when it was adopted by conservative Protestants.
"Historicists hold that the events predicted in the Bible have been taking place in history. Historicism gained popularity with the Protestant
Reformation. In the 19th century, with the rise of dispensationalism, conservative Protestants largely abandoned historicism in favor of futurism."
.....Other Ideas include Preterism......"Preterism holds that the contents of Revelation constitute a prophecy of events that were fulfilled in the
1st century." "Preterist interpretations generally identify either Jerusalem or the Roman Empire as the persecutor of the Church, "Babylon", the
"Mother of Harlots", etc. They see Armageddon as God's judgement on the Jews, carried out by the Roman army, which is identified as "the beast".
It sees Revelation being fulfilled in 70, thereby bringing the full presence of God to dwell with all humanity. Some preterists see the second half of
Revelation as changing focus to Rome, its persecution of Christians, and the fall of the Roman Empire."
.....Also there is the Paschal liturgical view. "This view, which has found expression among both Catholic and Protestant theologians, considers the
liturgical worship, particularly the Easter rites, of early Christianity as background and context for understanding the Book of Revelation's
structure and significance. This perspective is explained in The Paschal Liturgy and the Apocalypse (new edition, 2004) by Massey H. Shepherd, an
Episcopal scholar, and in Scott Hahn's The Lamb's Supper: The Mass as Heaven on Earth (1999), in which he states that Revelation in form is
structured after creation, fall, judgment and redemption. Those who hold this view say that the Temple's destruction (70 AD) had a profound effect on
the Jewish people, not only in Jerusalem but among the Greek-speaking Jews of the Mediterranean.They believe The Book of Revelation provides insight
into the early Eucharist, saying that it is the new Temple worship in the New Heaven and Earth. The idea of the Eucharist as a foretaste of the
heavenly banquet is also explored by British Methodist Geoffrey Wainwright in his book Eucharist and Eschatology (Oxford University Press, 1980)."
There is the Radical discipleship view
"The radical discipleship view asserts that the Book of Revelation is best understood as a handbook for radical discipleship; i.e., how to remain
faithful to the spirit and teachings of Jesus and avoid simply assimilating to surrounding society. In this view, the primary agenda of the book is to
expose as impostors the worldly powers that seek to oppose the ways of God and God's Kingdom. The chief temptation for Christians in the 1st century,
and today, is to fail to hold fast to the non-violent teachings and example of Jesus and instead be lured into unquestioning adoption and assimilation
of worldly, national or cultural values - imperialism, nationalism, and civil religion being the most dangerous and insidious. This perspective
(closely related to liberation theology) draws on the approach of Bible scholars such as Ched Myers, William Stringfellow, Richard Horsley, Daniel
Berrigan, Wes Howard-Brook, and Joerg Rieger.
There is the Pashal Spiritual view
"Paschal spiritual view
There is also a perspective that holds that the book of Revelation describes a spiritual battle that took place while Jesus was on the cross and in
the grave. Some Primitive Baptists believe this to be the intended meaning."
There are various Aesthetic and literary views, as well as various Academic views...all of which I won't list here [check the link I give for my
And of course, their is...the Esoteric View.
"The esoterist views Revelation as bearing multiple levels of meaning, the lowest being the literal or "dead-letter." Those who are instructed in
esoteric knowledge enter gradually into more subtle levels of understanding of the text. They see the book as delivering both a series of warnings for
humanity and a detailed account of internal, spiritual processes of the individual soul.
The Gnostic Kabbalist believes that Revelation (like Genesis) is a very profound book of Kabbalistic symbolism. This view is held by teachers such as
H.P. Blavatsky, Eliphas Levi, Rudolf Steiner.
James Morgan Pryse was an esoteric gnostic who saw Revelation as a western version of the Hindu theory of the Chakra. He began his work, "The purpose
of this book is to show that the Apocalypse is a manual of spiritual development and not, as conventionally interpreted, a cryptic history or