Atheists, be honest. We know it, you know it., page 2

Jeez, can't even go to the bathroom without missing several posts, going to have to catch up.

Originally posted by ztruthseeker
reply to post by Lionhearte

Im an Atheist because i have no morals, and i just want to do evil things, and live my life the way i want to. According to you, we all come up short in the eyes of God anyways right? So just accept it... live it up!

Heh, I think you're missing the point. Of course no one is righteous, but we do have morals. We do have laws. All that is commanded from God is to love Him, and to love your fellow man. Sin is not something we (christians) are bound to anymore. Repent means a desire to change, and that's where it starts.

Originally posted by 0001391
The bible does not say you can't have alcohol, obviously even Jesus drank wine. The bible does not say smoking is a sin either. If you smoke tobacco once a week or on special occasions there is little to no chance of it even impacting your lifespan. Nor do all atheists drink and smoke. Surely you can come up with better arguments for your position than that.

The Bible says not to get drunk, obviously a drink or too isn't going to damn you to hell. The Bible also warns against addiction, but it also wants you to take care of your body, for it's the temple of Christ. My examples were just that, examples.

Originally posted by behindXtheXveil
reply to post by Lionhearte

religious douchebaggery at its best

I will be honest for you, i don't believe in god because there is no proof of god.. and as a matter of fact there is a ton of proof that jesus was never a person but thats a different subject for a different time

Actually, there's lots of proof, from my view. The first step would be validating the Bible, which can be done in numerous ways. I'm actually more interested in the proof you have that Jesus was not a real person, if you'd care to share that with me.

Originally posted by brommas
reply to post by Lionhearte

Strangeley, there are more religions in the world than christianity, you are showing your ignorance. On a personal level, i find it odd that god needs someone to speak for him, i.e Jesus, and each 1 of us is responsible for our sins before you start down that line, jesus did not need to die for man so that in future our sins are cleansed, that is rather illogical dont you think?(then it appears you do not because of the last statement you made) that is if you agree that god has complete power?

Actually, no, I don't understand what you mean. Why is it illogical that Jesus would need to die for our Sins? The Law was perfect, but man was flawed and could not fulfill the law, so Jesus came and did it for us. The only one to die without Sin, offers up his spirit to live inside those who would accept Him, so that when one dies, God does not see a sinful man standing at the gates, full of corruption and sin, instead, he says His Son, and welcomes Him into Heaven.

On a different level, why does god choose to be there just for the jews of the world, they are his chosen people are they not?, this thought process kind of reminds me of the "divide and conquer" type mentallity, TPTB are very good at that and have used it for years. Surely as a race, we are 1 people, perhaps we should start looking at the things each of us have in common rather than trying to create our own little clubs, that is if you agree that god made each of us?

What do you mean, "God chooses to be there just for the jews of the world"? If I understand it correctly, God is there for all of mankind. Honestly, though, I love all men and women, I simply hate what they do, the Sin.

I am responsible for my own behaviour, no one else, actually fyi, i do believe in a god, i just do not think it is what we have been led to believe, too many holes in that 1 i am afraid.

Here's the thing, responsibility can be a heavy burden. No one can live the perfect life, not us Humans. We need an intercessor, someone to stand up for us.