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This study assumes that the payload is released within latitudes 30°N and 30°S, though
North-South basing location had minimal effect on cost. Transit operations, flying East-
West between equally spaced bases around the equator, were examined as a method
to ensure adequate dispersal of the payload around the equator.
Originally posted by SSDDay
reply to post by stardust1955
I'm sorry, but, you do not appear to be 56... And if you are, I'd say you're a bit paranoid. You need to mature up and quit with the anger. Tone it done a bit and don't try to act smarter than you are; or others. I do believe chem trails could very well exist, but I know weather modification is real (it's no more or less than a fact). So whether or not it's deadly or toxic is the question...? I wish we could all just be happy forest people : ) Haha
Originally posted by chrismicha77
Smaller business jets can easily cruise in the 45,000 to 50,000 feet range. The Concord cruised at around 55,000 feet with a maximum cruise altitude of 60,000 feet. Military jets, of course, operate at various altitudes depending on design mission.
I'm not saying they do fly that high. I think we had the discussion about the "proposed" geoengineering. I believe they stated that the chemicals, sulfur in the case, would be sprayed into the stratosphere.
Originally posted by Equinox99
Keep fighting the fight! If people stopped pursuing their fight every time people called them crazy than we would still be living in the dark ages. I hope you are wrong but I do understand that humans have done some terrible things in the past and they will continue to do terrible things in the future.
The government has tried to control the weather for places such as Arizona and New Mexico which is up in flames now due to droughts. So all these skeptics don't understand why the government would do this but that is their main reason. They want to make it rain to stop the fires and to grow better crops.
Originally posted by EyeDontKnow
Humans have done some wonderful things in the past and they will continue to do wonderful things in the future.
It goes both ways, right ? However it would be a shame to accuse evil guilt automatically, based on nothing but a selected, limited list of past deeds.
What if someone accused you this way ?...with no good evidence ??
I don't understand....are you accusing the gov't of droughts, or fires, or attempting to make rain and failing...or what ?
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The government has tried to control the weather for places such as Arizona and New Mexico which is up in flames now due to droughts.
So all these skeptics don't understand why the government would do this but that is their main reason. They want to make it rain to stop the fires and to grow better crops.
Originally posted by EyeDontKnow
There's a saying about credibility, and it goes something like this...."Your credibility is only as good, as your last failure." In other words, people tend to only remember your mistakes, or put those mistakes (mistakes,secrets, lies, whatever) at the top of their "judgment list",....even though you may have had far fewer mistakes within a long history of good deeds and successful decisions.. Don't you hate when that happens to you....that you are judged solely on your few mistakes ?
Originally posted by Equinox99
So let me get this right you think everyone is a good person?
Originally posted by Equinox99
Government has engaged in weather modification before so why are you so sure the abandoned their findings? They can use those experiments for places that are on fire now! They can use those for places that have droughts now!
Kapeesh?
AMERICA’s elder statesman of finance, Alan Greenspan, has shaken the White House by declaring that the prime motive for the war in Iraq was oil.
Source
Originally posted by EyeDontKnow
Originally posted by Equinox99
Government has engaged in weather modification before so why are you so sure the abandoned their findings? They can use those experiments for places that are on fire now! They can use those for places that have droughts now!
Kapeesh?
I never said they abandoned weather modification tests or their findings. Private companies openly do it now.
You seem to be of the opinion the gov't should be engaged in rain making, to stop/prevent forest fires and droughts.
So you are in favour of gov't weather modification.
This confuses me because you were complaining about it just a bit ago.
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Government agencies and utilities from California to North Dakota spend an estimated $15 million a year on cloud seeding, and the number of projects has jumped by nearly a third in the last decade.
So this was once my home until we all got so sick we either moved or died. This has been covered up very efficiently by the MSM in Oregon as well as the regulatory agencies. Without the third party determination by such a reputable source this would still be a dirty secret.
Since they brought back left over agent orange from Viet Nam and began spraying the hills it has not stopped it has increased.
They got agent orange banned in the 70's but the corps responded with dozens of other chemicals to take it's place and they still use half the mix. As witnessed by the elevated 2,4-D in urine tests.
My wife was office manager of the country doctor she saw the waves of illness during spray time, we fought it till it nearly killed us all
www.forestcouncil.org...
Between the radiation and the poison the PNW is fairly screwed.
More links to news on the issue beginning with our tale as chemical refugees
www.eugeneweekly.com...
My neighbor who continues the fight after we had to leave
www.registerguard.com...
Look this over if you will. And let me add as a former resident. You can not imagine the volume of chemicals used. Literally tankers of concentrated herbicides, fungicides and rodenticides are used all around the homes and water shed of the inhabitants of the area.
seed
Originally posted by Equinox99
reply to post by EyeDontKnow
When it comes to profit people try to do anything possible to gain more. You may think that is good but it put places like where I used to live in a bad situation.
You gov't is good? How about 3 wars? That is good in your books? ......
by Equinox99
A little sickness brings in a big profit. Cancer is a profiteers dream. That is why cancer rates are on the rise.
Originally posted by Uncinus
reply to post by Equinox99
Overuse of herbicides by greedy logging companies? Yes, sounds like a pollution and public health issue.
Yes, bad things happen. Yes, power corrupts. Yes, the government contains elements that does not have your best interest at heart.
But does this mean they are necessarily performing geoengineering? That the trails you see in the sky are chemtrails?
There's zero evidence of any geoengineering anywhere in the planet. There's zero evidence of the trails being anything other than contrails.
The modern concept of geoengineering (or climate engineering) proposes to deliberately manipulate a planet's climate, typically the Earth's, to counteract the effects of global warming from greenhouse gas emissions. Other uses of the word sometimes occur, meaning geotechnical engineering.
So from those unexpected things - how do you make the leap to a planet-wide, decade long conspiracy to alter the climate using unusual looking trails from aircraft? A conspiracy for which there is no actual evidence?