Pakistan 'can't protect atomic arsenal from Islamic extremists'

Pakistan 'can't protect atomic arsenal from Islamic extremists'

www.telegraph.c o.uk

Their security in a country known for political instability has long been a matter of concern and has taken on added urgency in recent weeks, ever since militants took control of a naval base in Karachi, holding elite troops at bay for more than 16 hours.

Professor Pervez Hoodbhoy, who teaches at universities in Lahore and Islamabad, said there was evidence that the Army had been infiltrated by extremist elements.

"We have reason to worry because the most secure installations, bases, and headquarters of the military have been successfully attacked by Islamic militants who have sympathis

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It was just a few years ago that the US gave Pakistan many millions of Dollars, with the stated aim that Pakistan should spend this money to upgrade the security of it's nukes. Instead of doing this they spent the money on building even more, and today are reputed to be the fastest growing nuclear nation in the world. To make things worse They have recently deported numerous UK/US troops that were training their police and military so that they could fight the extremists.

Given that it is known that Pakistan has sympathizers within it's intelligence community and possibly even government. Should it not be Pakistan that we are focusing our military on rather than other nations around the middle east?

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reply to post by solidshot


Funny how this scenario keeps raising it's potentially ugly head. I wrote a thread last year in which I posted a pentagon source revealing that the US has a crack unit on standby in case of this playing out....

Elite US troops ready to combat Pakistani nuclear hijacks

The US army is training a crack unit to seal off and snatch back Pakistani nuclear weapons in the event that militants, possibly from inside the country’s security apparatus, get their hands on a nuclear device or materials that could make one. The specialised unit would be charged with recovering the nuclear materials and securing them.

Sounds more like we are the ones infiltrating the Pakistani bases in order to go to war in another country, which would make 5, if anyones counting.

That's probably why they sent the SEALS to get Bin Laden, they didn't want everyone finding out that DELTA was already there.

Yes pakistan can, this is dis-info so the u.s. military war engine can justify invading pakistan. and ww3 starts

reply to post by MachiventaMelchizedek



If Pakistan can defend it's nukes, how come it can't even defend it's own naval bases as shown a month or two ago when they were attacked by the Taliban and their friends? surely this is yet another sign that not only can it not defend them, but the fact they are deporting the very people trying to teach how to defend them points to them being complicit in helping the Taliban slowly gain control of the country?

me thinks it's just propaganda to be
used as a scapegoat to invade
Pakistan.

Lord knows, if you wanted to get
that technical about it, then you
could say:

America can't protect it's nuclear arsenal
from faulty Chinese made microchips
in the warheads.

The USA (through proxies) turned a blind eye as Pakistan developed their nuclear arsenal, all the while going after countries like Iran and Libya for doing the same.

A country with a military dictatorship known to harbor terrorists with a nuclear arsenal? What could possibly go wrong?

If this continues, it wouldn't be long before the MSM picks it up and start to demonize Pakistan. The end result being Pakistan having no nuclear capabilities..hence no nuclear "threat" in the middle eastern countries, when there isn't any to begin with.

I wonder how China is going to react to this. They did once said to the U.S that "Pakistan is our Israel". Read it off wiki. hahahaha

I'd bet sooner or later the last country in to be attacked or rather....."hijacked by muslim extremists corruption..thing" would be Iran.

Man, what a vicious cycle.

Ya got the cycle part right my friend...I think this old scenario is being played out for the facilitation of a US intervention or invasion to recover....
Meeanwhile, im sure that India will also have it grubby paws on the back room dealings too....

Some people....

There has been a real and live threat now for some time that Pakistan's nuclear arsenal could fall into the hands of Muslim extremists.

If anyone is comfortable with that then I suspect they have little grasp of the real implications that would have to each and every one of us and how world security and stability would be threatened.

The US would be guilty of gross negligence if they didn't have plans to ensure that Muslim extremists don't gain control of these weapons.

It is not dis-info.
It is not an excuse to invade Pakistan; if the US had wanted to they would have a long time ago.
Muslim extremists have infiltrated Pakistan Security, Intelligence and Armed Forces and probably most levels of Pakistan government and administration.

China and India have real concerns about Pakistan and whilst China may enter into the usual public criticism of US policy neither country would complain if the US safely removed or eliminated the nuclear arsenal when or if the need arises.

People can say what they like but I for one wouldn't feel safe if those weapons fell under the control of Taliban like extremists.

After seeing the pictures of falujah babies, I can't see how anyone in their right mind
could respect or care if the US or Britian gets nuked..
tit for tat...
fair is fair,,,
haha
no it isn't
no WMDs in Iraq
and they are worried about Pakistan..?
That would be hilarious if it wasn't so sickening

the wining about everyone els is just too much

here are your muslim extremists

Muslim Brotherhood created by British Intelligence

Dr. John Coleman, a former British Intelligence agent...states in his report on Iran's Islamic Revolution that the Muslim Brotherhood was created by "the great names of British Middle East intelligence"...and that their mission was to "keep the Middle East backward so that its natural resource, oil, could continue to be looted..."

The Muslim Brotherhood is a London creation, forged as the standard-bearer of an ancient, anti-religious (pagan) heresy that has plagued Islam since the establishment of the Islamic community (umma) by the Prophet Mohammed in the seventh century. Representing organized Islamic fundamentalism, the organization called the Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan al-Muslimum in Arabic) was officially founded in Egypt, in 1929, by the British agent Hasan al-Banna, a Sufi mystic. Today, the Muslim Brotherhood is the umbrella under which a host of fundamentalist Sufi, Sunni, and radical Shiite brotherhoods and societies flourish.

The Muslim Brotherhood is a tool by the British-based Globalists whose main objective is to overthrow the established world order and create a new one-world system of global governance.

Without the British, "radical Islam would have remained the illegitimate, repressive minority movement that it has always been, and the Middle East would have remained stable and prosperous."

The real Muslim Brothers are...the secretive bankers and financiers who stand behind the curtain, the members of the old Arab, Turkish, or Persian families whose genealogy places them in the oligarchic elite, with smooth business and intelligence associations to the European black nobility and, especially, to the British oligarchy.

www.topix.com...

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Everything's a conspiracy and everything is the fault of the US / UK!

What a simplistic, black and white world we live in.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

As Peter Goodgame has exhaustively documented, the Muslim Brotherhood is a prized secret weapon of the globalists. Both the CIA and British intelligence penetrated the group and used it to fight against Arab nationalism, in particular early on nationalism promoted by Egypt’s Nasser.

www.infowars.com...

ah well
deaf ears

Now, though – having been wrong-footed and overtaken by largely non-religious young activists – the brotherhood is seeking to regain its standing as the country's leading opposition movement, without turning either local or western opinion against it.

Playing catch-up has seen the brotherhood engaging in dialogue with a government that has long kept it outlawed – thus gaining a legal legitimacy denied since 1954 – while at the same time trying to avoid accusations of a sell-out from the hundreds of thousands who continue to pack Tahrir Square and who want to see President Hosni Mubarak gone before any negotiations towards a democratic transition can begi

www.guardian.co.uk...

reply to post by Danbones


What has The Muslim Brotherrhood in Egypt got to do with Taliban supporters possibly gaining control of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal?

Originally posted by Danbones
After seeing the pictures of falujah babies, I can't see how anyone in their right mind
could respect or care if the US or Britian gets nuked..
tit for tat...
fair is fair,,,
haha
no it isn't
no WMDs in Iraq
and they are worried about Pakistan..?
That would be hilarious if it wasn't so sickening

the wining about everyone els is just too much

Well, I for one would care very greatly if the US was nuked because that would be very bad for me if you catch my drift

And with you listing your location as my nations wonderful top hat it would affect you guys too

But I think your real point in undertoning the fact that in a world ruled by Karma it would seem fair or just. Thankfully many people in the world today subscribe to ideas besides Hammurabi's "eye for an eye" ideals. I would rather just have us all sit around a campfire roasting marshmallows (no hot dogs with our Jewish and Muslim buddies so that we don't hurt their feelings or offend their religious practices ) and making some smores. Maybe even sing some Kumbayah while we are at it.

Now I know that with the people that really are running the show, the above would never happen. Would be nice though...

P.S. I truly apologize for the abundance of emoticons. They somehow felt fitting to lighten the tone of this thread a little.