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N Korean children begging, army starving: exclusive

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posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 09:46 AM
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Don't want to take this off topic, but here you go:




The United States government does have a plan to invade Canada. It's a 94-page document called "Joint Army and Navy Basic War Plan -- Red," with the word SECRET stamped on the cover. It's a bold plan, a bodacious plan, a step-by-step plan to invade, seize and annex our neighbor to the north. It goes like this:

www.washingtonpost.com...

This is a fact, and come military personnel here in ATS can attest to it, that US has plans to invade every nation on the face of this planet, does that make US delusional?




posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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In the US alone, millions are starving. We should take care of our own before trampling all over the world. That's just my .02



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 09:49 AM
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Your ignorance is blazing through.. I called him delusional... You asked for proof. (I am going to get you sources that you will accept.)

Now we are going to switch over to what you can find about the US?? Do you have a logical bone in your body? Or do you bring emotions and irrational behavior to all of your conversations?

www.timesonline.co.uk...

www.mirror.co.uk...

www.foxnews.com...
www.militaryphotos.net...

www.guardian.co.uk...

news.bbc.co.uk...

www.npr.org...

You have been outclassed, now sit boo boo sit!



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 09:50 AM
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I dont think we should get involved.. AT ALL! I want all of our troops home and all of our money to stay right here.. Unfortunately, millions will die without our aide, and millions will die without our troops to protect them. BUT, this is necessary for the US to exist into the future.



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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The reason why N-Korea is militarized has to do with the great threat looming in the South. US is officially at war with N-Korea and can attack any moment without any notice. N-Korea has asked for a peace treaty multiple times, US is the one who denies it.

The military takes only a portion of the food, and if you didn't know, the military is filled with N-Koreans, so that is one thing that encourages N-Koreans to join the military.

The same reason why Americans are encouraged to join the military, you know, they need them money, the food, or what ever necessities.

N-Korea is in drought, the hunger will continue until US stops being a whiny little kid and signs a peace treaty so that the hostilities may end, and N-Korea's isolation ends.

Let's not forget it was US back sanctions justified by UN which killed over a million Iraqi babies, let's not repeat that crime against humanity the second time.

Even if Kim is guilty of what ever, N-Koreans deserve to live, they are innocent.



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 10:00 AM
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So, to sum it up ... The US is the only thing wrong wrong with North Korea? I see.........

That's great, you completely digressed to agreeing with the OP..... Typical!

I can NOT WAIT until Sept.... Then we only have to deal with these type of posters after the bell.
edit on 6/27/2011 by ShaunHatfield because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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I don't know in what way this is about the North Korean leader.

He inherited this mess, and his circle of senior people run the show.

Furthermore, this is not 'news'... the North Koreans have been starving out their homeless orphans for more than a decade now. If you think the soldiers are starving, just wait until someone shows us pictures of the sizable slave labor population from the jails.

This is a pathetic example of a traditionally unreported humanitarian crisis. The mainstream has ignored it, and any reports about it for like three administrations now.

It will no be 'fixed' because it's too politically useful. It's a heart breaker for sure, because when starving or imperiled populations become the stuff of political theater we know the global 'humanitarian' system is morally bankrupt.



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 10:05 AM
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So let me get this straight, KIM eating rabbits in someone's birthday party is delusional?

The Mirror has no sources lol..

FoxNews is FoxNews, most people are aware of that one.

Military Photos has a direct link to FOXNEWS lol

Here's a great James Bond Story from guardian lol:




What followed, according to Kingdom of Kim, Shin's memoir, was an experience that revived his career in an unbelievable way. Shin and his wife were kidnapped by North Korea's despot-in-training, Kim Jong-il, who sought to create a film industry that would allow him to sway a world audience to the righteousness of the Korea Workers' Party. Shin would be his propagandist, Choi his star.


A film maker loses his job, then gets kidnapped by Kim who wants to make his own movies, then he comes back and tells the tale and gets his job back hahahaha..

Did you even read your sources?

BBC repeats the same very James Bondish movies as the Guardian.

and NPR also repeats the same story.

Keep it coming.



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by confreak
The reason why N-Korea is militarized has to do with the great threat looming in the South. US is officially at war with N-Korea and can attack any moment without any notice. N-Korea has asked for a peace treaty multiple times, US is the one who denies it.


SK and US jointly reject them. SK also has to give its approval to any treaties because they are allies with the US.


Originally posted by confreak
The military takes only a portion of the food, and if you didn't know, the military is filled with N-Koreans, so that is one thing that encourages N-Koreans to join the military.

The same reason why Americans are encouraged to join the military, you know, they need them money, the food, or what ever necessities.


The problem is the military, any military, does not produce goods, they only consume them. Having such a big army is the reason NK is soo poor. Per capita, NK is more militarised than the USA with only a fraction of the US's economy.


Originally posted by confreak
N-Korea is in drought, the hunger will continue until US stops being a whiny little kid and signs a peace treaty so that the hostilities may end, and N-Korea's isolation ends.


If Kim had more people farming instead of holding rifles they wouldn't be in such a bad postition.


Originally posted by confreak
Even if Kim is guilty of what ever, N-Koreans deserve to live, they are innocent.


Of coarse they do, but for 60 years now the NK regime has given them the bare minimum to exist on and they really show no signs of changing.



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 10:12 AM
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Ok, move on troll.. You are now being ignored. Nothing will be good enough for you.. I am not jumping through flaming hoops to prove a point to an ignorant little boy.



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by ShaunHatfield
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If China and the US minded our own business with regards to NK... Millions would starve!


what do you propose bombing them into submission... help when help is asked for...



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 10:31 AM
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Please point out where I said we should bomb them.... Look how sad this really is.. This is supposed to be a discussion about the impoverished country know as North Korea.. Some people lack the capacity and or ability to stay on topic, while focusing on what has been written.



posted on Jun, 27 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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Except in this case it would be true. Or do you really think the idolatry of Kim Jong's republic is completley within the norm? If so...you ought to try living there for a while and then get back to us on how non-delusional he is.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 08:14 AM
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"Help when Help is asked for"

Really? Libya rings a bell....

We should keep out military and OUR MONEY at home.. let the planet fend for themselves.. I am sick of sending money to countries that hate us..

"But millions will starve" - So be it!! Not our problem
But if we remove our troops wars will start - Good!!! This marble could use a dusting off..



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by ShaunHatfield
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Please point out where I said we should bomb them.... Look how sad this really is.. This is supposed to be a discussion about the impoverished country know as North Korea.. Some people lack the capacity and or ability to stay on topic, while focusing on what has been written.



Please point out where i stated that you said I should bomb them. Do not put words into my mouth. It was a suggested course of action that is all. It is easy to point out what is wrong with the world, but you are not offering any solutions to theses problems. I am on topic...



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by ShaunHatfield
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"Help when Help is asked for"

Really? Libya rings a bell....

We should keep out military and OUR MONEY at home.. let the planet fend for themselves.. I am sick of sending money to countries that hate us..

"But millions will starve" - So be it!! Not our problem
But if we remove our troops wars will start - Good!!! This marble could use a dusting off..


Yes but the help in the case of libya is aimed against a government, I agree with you we should not be sending our troops over there. It really is an internal affair. none of our business....
If a country requests help that is a different thing, but to intervene in an internal squabble is wrong. It is sad becuase peeps will die, but when we go into libya peeps will die anyhows..



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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Nope!!! You don't get to call big brother USA (in my perfect world) You don't just ring our bell. If you need our assistance to save your arse, it will cost you.... BIG!!!

Close all bases immediately stop ALL AIDE, including food aide. Get our hated boys home, where they can be put to work building our infrastructure.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by purplemer

Originally posted by ShaunHatfield
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If China and the US minded our own business with regards to NK... Millions would starve!


what do you propose bombing them into submission... help when help is asked for...


"Don't put words in my mouth"

Then learn how to form and display a complete sentence. Your post implied that I thought a bombing run was a viable option.

Or asking if I "propose bombing them into submission"... Nothing I had said, had zip, zilch, zero to do with "bombing them into submission"



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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Always said this. Who's responsible for the destruction in North Korea? Is it North Korea starving their citizens orare the sanctions to blame?



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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Always said this. Who's responsible for the destruction in North Korea? Is it North Korea starving their citizens orare the sanctions to blame?




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