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The Fix For "Flash Mob" Robberies. (or) What is going on with black teens???

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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 05:51 PM
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there has been a disturbing trend whereby almost every single TRAFFIC ACCIDENT in the whole nation is caused by RED FORD ESCORTS. Sure, the vast majority of RED FORD ESCORTS don't cause TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS...but it's hard to ignore that every single TRAFFIC ACCIDENT you ever see on the news see is caused by RED FORD ESCORTS. Only, now, the news no longer reports that the TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS are being caused EXCLUSIVELY by RED FORD ESCORTS.


Okay, so now you've gone from comparing blacks to dogs. To calling blacks outright inferior. And now you're comparing blacks to 'red ford escorts" and claiming that blacks are responsible for every crime committed?? Yeah dude, I'm sorry to break it to you, but you're definitely a racist.




posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by pauljs75
The best fix is to make some kind of employment available where livable wages are paid while doing honest work. The problem is that jobs aren't there, or if there are jobs - they just don't pay enough to be worth the time. (Might make rent, but it still wont cover any food or utilities. Cost of living estimation in regards to setting minimum wage is a bad joke.)

This also has less risk than running drugs and doing more typical gang activities. The legal penalties are less harsh, and by avoiding runs on small "mom & pop" stores with a personal business stake - it's unlikely they'll ever be shot at over such raids. It's not too hard to figure out the reasons why they're doing it.

Moving police to different areas is one of those proposed solutions, but such mobs always have scouts. That's one of the entire points as to why they're coordinating with cell phones. When one area is hot they get word not to go there, then somebody phones in from another location where the opportunity for easy pickings exists.

As for drop gates or locking doors... Those are only as good as the nearest movable garbage can, shopping cart, or concealable piece of 2X4 or steel pipe. If a guide track is obstructed or a latch is prevented from catching, that gate or door may as well not be there. You're making out these flash mobs to be dumber than they are. They may have slacked off on schooling, but there is still street smarts and some amount of common sense. Many often have a lookout by the door, and to think they don't keep an exit plan covered is underestimating the bunch.

Other counters would be difficult to implement as well. There are legitimate reasons to make calls from areas in and around stores, and it's impractical to monitor everybody's cell phone conversations and text messages.


Dude... I lost my job last year under the most dubious of circumstances and haven't been able to find anything. I just started a new job that actually pays less than I was making on unemployment. I'm on the verge of losing my house, my car, and everything I've worked my whole life for. I no longer have the means of providing for my family or protecting my children via health care. BUT... I feel no urge whatsoever to gather my friends to storm into a store, take everything we can, and trash the place while were at it. I have no desire to roam down the street with my buddies and look for solitary black people to beat up. I have no desire to shoot anyone, rape anyone, or cause a disturbance of any kind. I'm not going to march down the street yelling that we should kill all the blacks, or cause anyone to live in fear.

It's not hard time or poverty that causes this kind of behavior. Quit making excuses and start looking for real solutions.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by MiloNickels
It's not hard time or poverty that causes this kind of behavior. Quit making excuses and start looking for real solutions.



Quit looking at symptoms and address the diesease.

For many of the black youth in America, there is no real hope of getting out. There is poverty, or there is crime. Some option.


Ever hear the saying that you get what you give? This is the getting from years of giving ghettos.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by 2012srb

Originally posted by nh_ee


.....Yeah, they stole but the sad truth is that people generally steal when they haven't the means to pay for something....as in Jobs.

And the Jobs just don't exist.

We have these idle youths who just got out of school and they're hungry, bored and poor and end up enterprising.....


Don't make excuses for negative behavior. This is a rational thinking error. Don't rescue those who abuse the trust of others. Criminal behavior is criminal behavior.

Society has gotten in the habit of making excuses for everything. That's got to stop if we're ever to get our country back.
edit on 6/28/2011 by 2012srb because: (no reason given)



No excuses, it's simply a matter of cause and effect.

I am leaving the Race Card out of this. For it isn't about race, it is about Poverty.

People can only take so much before they begin to react.

I have never been hungry enough to take such drastic measures but If I were driven to starvation, I certainly would.

Unfortunately, It's a matter of survival.


Get our country back ?

Roosevelt's Second Bill of RIghts guaranteed everyone a job so that this would never occur.

As far as criminals...

Both GW Bush and Cheney had DUI violations, in fact, Cheney had 2.
Now if they had killed someone do you think they would have become President and Vice President ?

Not likely...


edit on 28-6-2011 by nh_ee because: typos



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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It still all boils down to the lack of consequences for negative behavior.

Clinton gets a blow job in the Oval Office. No consequences.

Politicians are routinely caught lying and philandering. No big deal. Weiner's already got a job offer.

The only reason Edwards is in trouble is not because he screwed around but because he used campaign funds to cover it up. That he cheated on his wife is, strangely, irrelevant.

"He's poor/uneducated/bored". Oh, okay, the court recognizes whatever lame excuse a perp has for victimizing honest citizens.

Disgusting.

America, where did she go?



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by kaiode1
reply to post by MiloNickels
 





there has been a disturbing trend whereby almost every single TRAFFIC ACCIDENT in the whole nation is caused by RED FORD ESCORTS. Sure, the vast majority of RED FORD ESCORTS don't cause TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS...but it's hard to ignore that every single TRAFFIC ACCIDENT you ever see on the news see is caused by RED FORD ESCORTS. Only, now, the news no longer reports that the TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS are being caused EXCLUSIVELY by RED FORD ESCORTS.


Okay, so now you've gone from comparing blacks to dogs. To calling blacks outright inferior. And now you're comparing blacks to 'red ford escorts" and claiming that blacks are responsible for every crime committed?? Yeah dude, I'm sorry to break it to you, but you're definitely a racist.


what are you talking about? I'm talking about the specific types of crimes that have been all over the news lately which are being attributed to "youths" and "flash mobs". You don't think there is a real problem that needs to be addressed?



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by peck420

Originally posted by MiloNickels
It's not hard time or poverty that causes this kind of behavior. Quit making excuses and start looking for real solutions.



Quit looking at symptoms and address the diesease.

For many of the black youth in America, there is no real hope of getting out. There is poverty, or there is crime. Some option.


Ever hear the saying that you get what you give? This is the getting from years of giving ghettos.


I'm in poverty right now, but not resorting to crimes... Is that really the only other option???? Man... I wish I had known. Where's my gun?!?!?!?!?



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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I am leaving the Race Card out of this. For it isn't about race, it is about Poverty.


Exactly! Especially if you look at the crime rates of countries that are predominantly populated by blacks. The argument that "blacks are generally more volatile" is invalid. Ghana, for instance, has a very low crime rate and the majority of the population is black. There are some ignorant foo's commenting on these hot-button-race-related threads.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by peck420

Originally posted by MiloNickels
It's not hard time or poverty that causes this kind of behavior. Quit making excuses and start looking for real solutions.



Quit looking at symptoms and address the diesease.

For many of the black youth in America, there is no real hope of getting out. There is poverty, or there is crime. Some option.


Ever hear the saying that you get what you give? This is the getting from years of giving ghettos.


PS - I'm addressing the disease far more honestly than you are.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by 2012srb
It still all boils down to the lack of consequences for negative behavior.

Clinton gets a blow job in the Oval Office. No consequences.

Politicians are routinely caught lying and philandering. No big deal. Weiner's already got a job offer.

The only reason Edwards is in trouble is not because he screwed around but because he used campaign funds to cover it up. That he cheated on his wife is, strangely, irrelevant.

"He's poor/uneducated/bored". Oh, okay, the court recognizes whatever lame excuse a perp has for victimizing honest citizens.

Disgusting.


You're 100% correct. The negative behaviour of those in charged goes unpunished, while the result of said negative behaviour is demonized. If politicians were actually concerned about their people, they would be investing directly into these youth rather than their own pockets. That investment today would pay itself over tenfold in the future.



America, where did she go?


She is currently residing in some bankers pocket, screaming to get back out.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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Please don't insult my intelligence. You compared black people to "red ford escorts." Are you seriously going to deny that?



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by MiloNickels

Ever hear the saying that you get what you give? This is the getting from years of giving ghettos.


Giving ghettos? you mean affordable housing for poor people?

Did you know where the word ghettos came form? Jewish people since they are the ones that lived in ghettos first. Have you ever heard of Jews robbing stores in gangs?

Why is it so hard for you people to call a spade a spade and admit that this is a black issue?

edit on 28-6-2011 by Scoriada because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by kaiode1
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Please don't insult my intelligence. You compared black people to "red ford escorts." Are you seriously going to deny that?


are you going to deny that you are too stupid to recognize an ANALOGY when you read one?



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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Did one of the people in that neighborhood mob actually say the reason they yelled "kill all the whites" was because they are poor/unemployed/bored? And if they did, what do those conditions have to do with wanting to kill whites? Nothing. Whites have been poor/unemployed/bored.

That statement was pure racism. You can't get around that.
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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:13 PM
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Yup. I understood your "analogy" just fine. You used "red ford escorts" in place of "black ignorant teenagers."



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:18 PM
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It is not racism to say "a black person robbed me" if indeed it was a black person that robbed you; its not being racist its being descriptive. It is not racism to say "it was a mob of black youth" if it was a mob of black youth; again thats not racism thats description.

There is no excuse for this behavior. A crime is a crime and should be punished by law. In invading stores like this these youths have committed a crime and should be punished thusly. I don't care what color/age/religion/sex/sexual orientation/creed/nationality they are a part of or aligned with. This behavior is a crime and those committing this behavior this should be sentenced to hard time; both as punishment for their behavior and as a deterrent to others.

It is racist to use someone's ethnicity as a justification for their behavior just like it is racist to attribute behavior to someone because of their ethnicity. The simple fact is these youths actions cannot be excused by their race or their socioeconomic status and whomever tries to excuse their actions along race lines is the true racist just as anyone whom would say "they are black so they must be engaging in this action" is racist too.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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Poverty? Good to know your computer is running at the present moment. When you dont have food,electricity,a home get back at us. I highly doubt your "living" in poverty.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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It is racist to use someone's ethnicity as a justification for their behavior


No one is using race to justify their behavior. We're using socioeconomic status, and the fact that most of these people are in 3rd-4th generation poverty.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:25 PM
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So with that analogy,OP should have stuck with flash mob robberies. Bringing in what is wrong with black teens,is so general of a point. Thats like me saying what is wrong with our Government,or what is wrong with "white" American politics? Get it?



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by Scoriada


Originally posted by MiloNickels

Ever hear the saying that you get what you give? This is the getting from years of giving ghettos.


Giving ghettos? you mean affordable housing for poor people?

Did you know where the word ghettos came form? Jewish people since they are the ones that lived in ghettos first. Have you ever heard of Jews robbing stores in gangs?

Why is it so hard for you people to call a spade a spade and admit that this is a black issue?

edit on 28-6-2011 by Scoriada because: (no reason given)


Your right.It is a black issue,because YOU made it into one. I guess we should start making threads with TWO headlines in them. One for topic,and one for race.

For instance.

Government is being ran into the ground.
Or,whats wrong with the majority of white politicians screwing over America?

See how it looks??????

No star,no flag.........


LINK

Use the first link at the top. Its SIMILAR to this thread.............

This thread is NO different.......

edit on 28-6-2011 by sonnny1 because: (no reason given)



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