posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 08:57 PM
Originally posted by ArMaP
I'm an atheist, but in my country we don't have such a thing as the "pledge of allegiance".
How I see it, if the expression "under God" is there to represent that the person making the pledge agrees with the idea that the United States are "a
nation under God" and that expression is meaningless to an atheist, then it means that the person was not sincere when they made the pledge.
If I was in that situation, I would remove the "under God" myself and would say the rest of the pledge. After all, what's the meaning of a false
You are exactly right, but I think the problem is not easily resolved. Here's the difficulty; Since I do believe in God, the *ONLY* way I would pledge
allegiance to any nation if it was recognized that it's governing authority was "under God." As grating as it is to every government and leader, a
believers fundamental allegiance is God's kingdom first. I would never pledge allegiance to any human authority unless it was with the understanding
that my primary allegiance was to God, i.e. "under God."
"Then they sent to Him some of the Pharisees and the Herodians, to catch Him in His words.
When they had come, they said to Him, "Teacher, we know that You are true, and care about no one; for You do not regard the person of men, but teach
the way of God in truth. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?"
"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." Christ said this to the chief priests, the scribes, and the
elders when they epically failed in attempting to trick Him. They had already submitted to the Roman rule and law as a nation, so what was there to
dispute about? But even above their submission to king or nation was His declaration of a submission of greater degree to a greater authority.
No easy solution. But I guess it's like Bob Dylan said, "You’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord But you’re gonna have to serve somebody"
I guess it comes down to who/what your god is, because in the end, by our very nature we are going to pledge allegiance to that.
26-6-2011 by quadagent because: clarify context of Mark 12 quote