TSA asks 95 years old woman, in wheelchair, battling leukemia to remove adult diaper

Obama has failed this country

reply to post by Vitchilo

HOW LONG BEFORE YOU GET ANGRY AMERICA AND BEAT THE HELL OUT OF THESE SCUM?

Never, because most Americans unknowingly have had their brains "conditioned". Laugh and troll all you want. I have, since birth a real severe high frequency hearing loss so I am assuming that this has been done via high frequency and I'm not "catching it". End result? It's like I am the lone survivor of "the pod people" (See the original 1950's Invasion of the Body Snatchers".

The video below description:

HDTV Mind Control and Assasination. Richard Perle and Stephen Bryen, leaders for the regulation of COCOM control or assistant secretary and deputy assistant secretary of defense for international economic, trade and security policy, battled with Malcolm Baldrige, a leader for the deregulation of COCOM control, and then they killed Malcolm Baldrige. It says Malcolm Baldrige is rather on Toshiba Corp side. It doesn't tell Malcolm Baldrige severely claimed Toshiba Corp 10 days before the his death. Toshiba COCOM affair is Americans' right rage from 1986 to 1988 for that Toshiba Machine Co ????, Itochu Corp ????? and Wakokoeki ???? illegally had sold strategically sensitive products, Toshiba Machine Co's sophisticated milling machines 9??????????????????4? with Kongsberg Vappenfabrik's numerical controllers ????(NC)?? to the Soviet Union in violation of the COCOM export control from 1982 to 1983 and the imports removed the noizy sound from Soviet's submarine. Americans might call it "the Toshiba-Kongsberg case" or "the Toshiba incident".

I also thought Toshiba COCOM affair, 1987 was for US-Japan economic friction. So I wrongly believed the Toshiba's information manipulation. At that time I was an university student or Toshiba Corp was nothing for me as for many Japanese. I knew, at that time Toshiba Corp clearly tried to revive Japan's anti-America and patriotism to replace the story.
(After 2000, in the back, Toshiba-Ogikai ???? communists/socialists/democrats occupy Electrical Electronic & Information Union (JEIU) ???? as leaders more than half of the years since the beginning 1953 and Leader Katsutoshi Suzuki ???? (from 1996 to 2003) and his JEIU said Japan is in American (mind-control) war and in the face, PM Junichiro Koizumi ????? and many Japanese professors on TV and journalists on books and Koizumi's Japanese Government, as cheaters, say rascal America moves Japan. While they have appealed Japan's anti-America or Japan's patriotism, Toshiba persons completely occupied Japan and are occupying the World by microwave of high definition television (HDTV).)

The 1st book says Iran-Contra operation was leaked in Nov 1986 and then President Ronald Reagan decreased the power in US Congress. I think Toshiba Corp might make it. (I remember Atsutoshi Nishida ????, current Toshiba President, married an Iranian in 1975 and officially, he worked in America in 1992.) According to Mar 29, 2006's news Caspar Weinberger died (in hospital) on Mar 28, 2006 and resigned his post Secretary of Defense in 1987 for the leak.
(I stronger suspect Bush's Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld is a Toshiba industrial spy or Toshiba Corp sent Toshiba industrial spy Donald H. Rumsfeld for Bush's Secretary of Defense. Because he selected Japan's Toshiba Corp as partner for American high definition television (HDTV) when he was the president of General Instrument Corporation (from 1990 to 1993).

Source of above and video below: www.youtube.com...

Haarp, cell towers, cell phones, microwaves (not the ones that cook your food), plasma TV's (Which the government was so eager to go digital and gave rebates so that everyone could afford to own one) on and on the lists goes.

Now for all you trolls out there...................the human brain is nothing more than a organic computer, and yes garbage in garbage out, you or TPTB can put unheard, unseen, unknowinly into your brain.

A good site for more information and the alien connection to all this is here: montalk.net...

You can tell something has happened to a large portion of the population because people have become more "compliant" more "glassy eyed"............brain dead.

When will the revolution, the standing up to tyranny take place?

Probably never, the conquering of our species was like taking candy from a baby, simple, easy and went unnoticed.

The whole site is actually very interesting for conspiracy buffs, not saying it's all gospel truth, but does give one that is open to new concepts food for thought.

Some very interesting articles.

montalk.net...

reply to post by kro32


You deserve no freedom.

Originally posted by kro32
They use children suicide bombers and they would have no problems getting an old woman to do this knowing she would not be checked.

I'm glad to op is so concerned about a minor delay for an old woman and has 0 concern for the family's and individuals aboard the aircraft.

this is , of course, why they do it. they are not evil sadistic power hungry freaks. they are just trying to do an impossible job. if the bad guys know you won't search someone based on age etc, you can count on them using that to their advantage

Also found this article of interest.

This agenda is being carried out on every level and in every way conceivable — through nanotechnology, genetic engineering, chem-trail spraying, electronic mind control, mass media propaganda, weather modification, deforestation, killing of the seas and oceans (e.g., think British Petroleum in the Gulf of Mexico), radioactive contamination (think Chernobyl and Fukushima, Japan), and more.

The Fortune 500 companies, the Pentagon, Wall Street, the Big Banks, the USA government and other major governments, espionage and spy agencies, criminal syndicates, the major religions, the formal “educational” system and other large institutions are all an integral part of this Machine and its deadly rampage.
It uses technology and people as its appendages. It is infinitely resourceful and devious and it will not stop coming.

The only way out of this situation for us is to go in. A conventional uprising against tyranny is not sufficient to definitively thwart this Machine. Such uprisings are merely fuel for its agenda of total conquest.

No, the only way to thwart this Machine is not via an uprising; rather, the only way for humanity to prevail in this impasse is through a far-reaching Upwising such that the human race has never experienced in its history.

Either we dramatically Upwise, or we are toast. Either a lot of humans get a lot smarter, a lot savvier, a lot more spiritual (not religious, but “spiritual”) and a lot more insightful, or we are done for.

This Machine cannot be fought in the conventional sense. To fight this Machine in a conventional way, is to lose. It will win that conventional conflict every time.
What is called for is wisdom, creative nonviolence, peaceful cooperation with the natural planet and other humans of good will, and a sense of reverence for biological life and the creative spirituality that has infused biological DNA with a hyper-dimensional communications link with the lovingly omniscient essence of All That Is.

And that is precisely what the Machine wants to destroy: biological life, hyper-dimensional DNA, to conquer the material realm and close it off from all hyper-dimensional contact with higher dimensions.

Look around at this planet and what is happening on it and you can see the death race to the bottom — with war sprouting up here and there, ecological destruction, totalitarian economic systems that are strangling the majority of the planet’s population and reducing them to slave status, oppressive political systems, rampant mind control, and more. The evidence for what ayahuasca showed me is evident on every hand.

Either we Upwise, or we continue to dumb down and definitively seal our own fate. That is our choice.

Source and rest of article describing the how and why of the attack on our species eventhorizonchronicle.blogspot.com...

Again I think we're possibly talking about our species actually being assimilated and or used by various other "beings".

If you look at this from a human 2011 perspective, than you're simply not going to comprehend how deep and far reaching this thing goes.

You possibly might want to consider looking at this from the perspective of a alien or group of various alien races that are anywhere from 1,000 to 1,000,000 years ahead of us in technology.

I'm not talking about our "world leaders" these are simply puppets and not really at the top of the pyramid.

If you've read David Icke's books you will understand some of what I'm talking about.

Fantastic, impossible, crazy, you bet cha.........but still what we thought impossible just two short centuries ago, are known realities now.

And as far as will we ever revolt against this tyranny?

Again, no, personally I think it's gone beyond the point of no return.

We were an infant species, a naive and easily conquered.

Unprepared and unknowing about warfare that wouldn't involve one tank, one mother ship or anything quite so dramatic.............conquering by wave tech used on our brains and possible abductions that now abductees that have come forward are numbering in the millions, not even thousands which in part either by the same or possibly different group (we may be dealing with various groups) hell bent on assimilating us into their collective hive mind.

Too much Star Trek, possibly.

But, a proud heart and closed mind gathers no knowledge and the genius war stradegy of conquering your enemy without them even knowing it is in a way admirable.

A slave that does not know he/she is enslaved will not rebel.

A prisoner that is not aware they are imprisoned will never try to escape.

OMG,

Get her! She's lighting a Bomb!

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Poor Granny! Shame on the TSA

I thought that the whole war on "terror" was supposedly to preserve freedom and that the "terrorist" were the ones trying to take away freedom. Why does it seem like those who are fighting the "terrorist" are the ones taking away the freedom? Who is winning here? Who is losing? It's time to start waking up and paying attention, I know it's nice in cozy in bed, but come on there is work to do.

I wonder if TSA can uber this.

However i thought the same last week. And the week before. And....

You know what is the problem OP, 90% of Americans like this type of treatment. Imagine this happening in another country.. Like Spain or some other place where real man exist. But here, none of that. We deserve all of that because we don't want to change it. Is to late, for change.

My father and brother had no problems going down or leaving Florida with the TSA agents last week. Maybe, it's just a selective few. Maybe, they act suspicious?

My dad and brother were trying so hard to get groped. They told me it would of been the best excitement they've ever had in years.

I don't think they tried hard enough.

95 is a bit extreme though. But, you never know.

reply to post by kro32

Would you like to disband it and have 1 bomb get through? Will you still be laughing then? What if it was your family on that 1 airplane that somebody blew up?

My family and I value our freedom more so than our fear. Anyone of us would gladly die knowing we didn't give in to the "terror" that are the terrorists only true weapon.

Its ironic to me that the "terrorists" hate us because of our freedom, so the moment they attack, we comply by having our freedom stripped away.

Anyway, quit acting like such a senseless sheeple.

reply to post by Vitchilo


It is time to, as a screaming MOB, get rid of TSA. WELL past time.

Originally posted by Q:1984A:1776
If we want to prevent terrorists from attacking us, we don't need to run invasive, unconstitutional searches on our own citizens. We can never run enough of those kind of searches to prevent terrorism. All we need to do is stop occupying their land, bombing their schools and hospitals, raping their women, and all together TERRORIZING them. THAT is why they hate us, not because we are "free". What a joke that is!

edit on 25-6-2011 by Q:1984A:1776 because: (no reason given)

Oh please this argument has been brought up half a million times and refuted at least that many. If you're going to compose a counterargument, at least give it some meat. This kind of effort won't win you any prizes. You do know that people are dying right now in afghanistan and iraq because they're over there fighting everyday, planning ahead and sacrificing themselves for the common good? This didn't start yesterday, bro. People wouldn't be over there doing what they're doing if this was about bombing their schools and hospitals and raping their women.

I think the best argument I've seen so far from the other side is that these other countries are unable to police and educate their own people so we end up having to do it for them and then we get no thank yous or any credit for it either. So they ask if this is our new role in the 21st century then why don't we just admit that we're the worlds police and quit trying to pretend this is 1941? I think it's a good argument but it's missing something important: context. Most countries have normal criminal activities. But many are not home to major terrorist hotbeds: organized terrorists that're funded by corrupt leaderships and radical moguls that use certain countries as training grounds. It's not a surprise that they would pick countries that're convenient for them, like afghanistan or even iraq (especially after operation iraqi freedom when we had started to remove saddam from power and then there's iran smuggling arms to insurgents and terrorist elements that I'm sure sprouted from every corner). When you go over the history of saddam you see a man that wasn't just a dictator that had trouble controlling his people, he was also a man that was out of control and there's good reason to believe he was helping to fund terrorism against Israel, much like gaddafi, the big number #1 in Libya. When you start to put hte pieces together what you see aren't countries that're unable to police themselves, what you see is a terrorist plot that's being funded by wealthy radicals and corrupt leadership. That's why we're over there. But if you skip over these details, I guess you could argue we're policemen.

I'm worried about Pakistan now. They're obviously not our friends. I wonder how leadership will handle this. We can't probably can't afford another war straight away. Public would not support. Unfortunatley, this would just lead to all of this being repeated again in 20 or 30 years. It's sad. We should stay in afghanistan longer but as usual we'll come back to american soil with our tail down low between our legs. We'll go back, no doubt. We have to. We never finish the job and it just regrows so the process will always repeat. People have ot understand that these wars have a purpose but if we fail to commit then it'll happen all over again. Public has bad memory.

What we need is a major war tax and get people into war mode. They need to know that this is serious business going on. Maybe it was a mistake not to execute a draft. People think that these wars aren't wars and that's the root of the problem. The consequence is that we don't get the job done. The idea that we can do these short wars doesn't work. I think it's inspired by people similar to Rumsfeld. They think we can just go here and go there and keep it under the radar. But I"m afraid it doesn't work. This is war and we need to get behind like our lives depend on it. It's the only way. I know it's not politically correct, but the truth needs to be said.

When bush said this was WWIII he should have had the presence of mind to get behind it 100%. Instead he reduced our taxes and avoided the draft issue (big mistake). I think he also though we could go in under cover of night and do these wars without too much noise. Shows his military inexperience. But I think after several years we can see the results. We now know what we need to do, we just need to devote ourselves to it and be willing to sacrifice our lives.

I'm thinking that the people in the know are starting to get nervous that this could all blow up in our faces. We can't hide from this. We could end up with a major bigtime war with little notice because it's been brewing all the time while we blithely watched our TV's trying to ignore it.

Originally posted by jonnywhite

Originally posted by Q:1984A:1776
If we want to prevent terrorists from attacking us, we don't need to run invasive, unconstitutional searches on our own citizens. We can never run enough of those kind of searches to prevent terrorism. All we need to do is stop occupying their land, bombing their schools and hospitals, raping their women, and all together TERRORIZING them. THAT is why they hate us, not because we are "free". What a joke that is!

edit on 25-6-2011 by Q:1984A:1776 because: (no reason given)

Oh please this argument has been brought up half a million times and refuted at least that many. If you're going to compose a counterargument, at least give it some meat. This kind of effort won't win you any prizes. You do know that people are dying right now in afghanistan and iraq because they're over there fighting everyday, planning ahead and sacrificing themselves for the common good? This didn't start yesterday, bro. People wouldn't be over there doing what they're doing if this was about bombing their schools and hospitals and raping their women.

I think the best argument I've seen so far from the other side is that these other countries are unable to police and educate their own people so we end up having to do it for them and then we get no thank yous or any credit for it either. So they ask if this is our new role in the 21st century then why don't we just admit that we're the worlds police and quit trying to pretend this is 1941? I think it's a good argument but it's missing something important: context. Most countries have normal criminal activities. But many are not home to major terrorist hotbeds: organized terrorists that're funded by corrupt leaderships and radical moguls that use certain countries as training grounds. It's not a surprise that they would pick countries that're convenient for them, like afghanistan or even iraq (especially after operation iraqi freedom when we had started to remove saddam from power and then there's iran smuggling arms to insurgents and terrorist elements that I'm sure sprouted from every corner). When you go over the history of saddam you see a man that wasn't just a dictator that had trouble controlling his people, he was also a man that was out of control and there's good reason to believe he was helping to fund terrorism against Israel, much like gaddafi, the big number #1 in Libya. When you start to put hte pieces together what you see aren't countries that're unable to police themselves, what you see is a terrorist plot that's being funded by wealthy radicals and corrupt leadership. That's why we're over there. But if you skip over these details, I guess you could argue we're policemen.

I'm worried about Pakistan now. They're obviously not our friends. I wonder how leadership will handle this. We can't probably can't afford another war straight away. Public would not support. Unfortunatley, this would just lead to all of this being repeated again in 20 or 30 years. It's sad. We should stay in afghanistan longer but as usual we'll come back to american soil with our tail down low between our legs. We'll go back, no doubt. We have to. We never finish the job and it just regrows so the process will always repeat. People have ot understand that these wars have a purpose but if we fail to commit then it'll happen all over again. Public has bad memory.

What we need is a major war tax and get people into war mode. They need to know that this is serious business going on. Maybe it was a mistake not to execute a draft. People think that these wars aren't wars and that's the root of the problem. The consequence is that we don't get the job done. The idea that we can do these short wars doesn't work. I think it's inspired by people similar to Rumsfeld. They think we can just go here and go there and keep it under the radar. But I"m afraid it doesn't work. This is war and we need to get behind like our lives depend on it. It's the only way. I know it's not politically correct, but the truth needs to be said.

When bush said this was WWIII he should have had the presence of mind to get behind it 100%. Instead he reduced our taxes and avoided the draft issue (big mistake). I think he also though we could go in under cover of night and do these wars without too much noise. Shows his military inexperience. But I think after several years we can see the results. We now know what we need to do, we just need to devote ourselves to it and be willing to sacrifice our lives.

I'm thinking that the people in the know are starting to get nervous that this could all blow up in our faces. We can't hide from this. We could end up with a major bigtime war with little notice because it's been brewing all the time while we blithely watched our TV's trying to ignore it.

edit on 26-6-2011 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)

This logic is why we spend more than the rest of the entire world combined in yearly military budget

Policing the world would be a good idea, if we had the economy to do so. Our labor force is not exactly something to brag about to the rest of the world.

Not to mention the heads of Wall Street ect. stealing trillions from the country.

reply to post by Jrocbaby

I never said it was pretty. WW3 is ongoing and it's a long one. Einstein said that the next war after WW3 would be fought with sticks and stones. HIs theory is going to get tested over the next several decades. The one plus we have on our side is we go into this knowing what Einstein thought. So maybe we can change the future so it's not as bleak as his.

I personally don't favor looking at iraq and afghanistan as separate operations. Yes, they need to be separated fro obvious reasons (which is which?), but in broader terms we're fighting a war that's larger and more obscure than most. This is a war that has lasted a long time and will continue to until the tide settles. It's not over in 15 minutes (a nuclear holocaust).

Americans are not going to become active when they are living month to month hand to mouth to pay for their morgage, their car lease, their 72 inch flatscreens, Iphones, laptops, boats and motorcycles....

... they get arrested for a protest and they would loose everything.

We are slaves. Debt slaves.

... did you hear about the new chrome laptop???

Originally posted by kro32
They use children suicide bombers and they would have no problems getting an old woman to do this knowing she would not be checked.

I'm glad to op is so concerned about a minor delay for an old woman and has 0 concern for the family's and individuals aboard the aircraft.

so umm...how many "terrorists" have they caught BEFORE they got on the planes with these new security measures? heard of any?

yeah..me neither.

i remember them letting the underwear bomber on without a passport while he was on a no fly list!

i've talked to alot of people, and most americans are "ok" with this because they are so afraid of terrorists. "i'd rather go thorough the security measures than get killed" its a JOKE, keep 'em afraid of a manufactured enemy, fueled by the media and they will trade freedom for security.

Originally posted by pianopraze
Americans are not going to become active when they are living month to month hand to mouth to pay for their morgage, their car lease, their 72 inch flatscreens, Iphones, laptops, boats and motorcycles....

... they get arrested for a protest and they would loose everything.

We are slaves. Debt slaves.

... did you hear about the new chrome laptop???

^----- Truth

Originally posted by Vitchilo
Elderly woman asked to remove adult diaper during TSA search

A woman has filed a complaint with federal authorities over how her elderly mother was treated at Northwest Florida Regional Airport last weekend.

Jean Weber of Destin filed a complaint with the Department of Homeland Security after her 95-year-old mother was detained and extensively searched last Saturday while trying to board a plane to fly to Michigan to be with family members during the final stages of her battle with leukemia.

Her mother, who was in a wheelchair, was asked to remove an adult diaper in order to complete a pat-down search.

“It’s something I couldn’t imagine happening on American soil,” Weber said Friday. “Here is my mother, 95 years old, 105 pounds, barely able to stand, and then this.”

HOW LONG BEFORE YOU GET ANGRY AMERICA AND BEAT THE HELL OUT OF THESE SCUM?

Don't freaking tell me ``terrorists could have hidden bombs in there`` or I'm gonna explode!!!

This kind of things makes my blood boil... and sometimes makes me wish some people would go postal on these TSA pieces of filth.

Or you know... a tree, a rope, a TSA agent's neck and a mob is all you need.

That reminds me of a story I read about the secret police in the Soviet Union when they arrested people at night. They looked all over the room for ``proof of crimes`` and of course they found nothing so then, the person in question had a wound with bandages... of course they took off the bandages to see if he was hiding anything... and of course he wasn't hiding anything...

TSA are like the Soviet Secret Police, trying to find crimes/terrorists/enemies of the state WHERE THEY DON'T EXIST.... Because THEY DON'T. To all of you who doubt me, time to read The Gulag Archipelago by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn... you'll see how much these TSA agents are like the Soviet Secret Police...

edit on 25-6-2011 by Vitchilo because: (no reason given)

So did she refuse the illegal search?
The TSA cannot trump THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION under any circumstances so they have no legal protection or right to invasive searches without a written warrant signed by a judge.

If they don't have that warrant, all those involved must be subject to arrest and prosecution. Did anyone call the state police to arrest the TSA workers?

The problem is we let this happen. A simple 911 call claiming kidnapping and assault at the airport may have solved this whole thing.

Remember, if a TSA agent attempts an invasive pat down, DEMAND to see their warrant.

Originally posted by defcon5

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Originally posted by snowen20
Granny should have planted a "dirty bomb" in her diaper before removing it.

She did, that was why they asked her daughter to remove it:

She said security personnel then came out and told her they would need for her mother to remove her Depends diaper because it was soiled and was impeding their search.
Weber wheeled her mother into a bathroom, removed her diaper and returned. Her mother did not have another clean diaper with her, Weber said.

Maybe people should start reading the entire articles before going off with half-cocked assumptions as to why certain events occur.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

Who takes their 95 year old cancer stricken mother on a plane for a day sitting in poop? Without another one even packed? That's just ridiculous. I didn't let my babies sit in poop.