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posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by kindred
reply to post by AverageJoe1
 


Nobody said Gaddafi was an angel, but it's the people who believe in the Libyan revolution who have been duped, not to mention how completely ignorant you are considering the evidence is staring you all in the face and you still refuse to see it.


I do believe it's very possible that the revolution may be risk of being hijacked.........in fact, perhaps it's already been hijacked{this seems to have occurred to an extent in Egypt, btw. The Muslim Brotherhood has made significant gains over there. Good for actual U.S. warmongers, bad for everyone else.}. But you are definitely duped if you truly believe that there weren't Libyans who suffered under his rule and wanted the bastard out, and were willing to incite a revolution to do so.

This isn't at all like the Chile of 1973 or Guatemala in the mid-'50s when Allende, and Arbenz, respectively, actually were adored by the majority of the publics of their respective nations and actually did pose a real threat to the interests of certain warmongering, 'anti-Communist' parties in the U.S.




posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 05:49 PM
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Since when does an entire population support their government. Most of the anti Gaddafi protests were by western bought & paid for mercenaries and of course the Libyan Army is going to respond and has every right too. Innocent people have gotten caught up in the violence, but it's clearly obvious who the majority support and that is what matters, not the opinion of the few.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 06:17 PM
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I hope Libya and neighbour countries kicks the crap outa NATO! Its about time people stood up to America just invading everyone.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by kindred
reply to post by AverageJoe1
 


Nobody said Gaddafi was an angel, but it's the people who believe in the Libyan revolution who have been duped, not to mention how completely ignorant you are considering the evidence is staring you all in the face and you still refuse to see it.

Over 1 million people came out recently in support of Gaddafi, considerably more than the so called phony revolution.



Funny how there's no mention of this on our TV's here in the UK, just more lies of Gaddafi supposedly threatening Europe, which is more Western media spin & lies.

You'll have to watch this video on youtube, You have to laugh at the CNN reportor whose trying to make out this is an anti Gadaffi protest, when they are shouting America out and holding up pictures of Gadaffi and chanting his name.

www.youtube.com...

More supporters of Gaddafi on the streets of Benghazi

www.youtube.com...

The message is clear - NATO get out!
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That's easy to do when you threaten each protester and his/her family. The same thing was done under Mubarak. I would bet money that most of the "1 million" protesters are actually mercenaries from another African country. This has happened time and time again when dictators wanted to pretend to the world that they have the support of their people.



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 06:34 AM
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I don't think so. How anyone can support hardine Islamic terrorists from other countries is beyond me. I bet NATO would like nothing better than to turn Libya into a broken and devastated country, in a perpetual state of civil war, like in Iraq. They sure as hell are not there to bring true democracy and freedom.



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 07:13 AM
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reply to post by kindred
 


I've been to that # hole, let me tell you if you couldn't see the writing on the wall back in 2001 that after we took saddam down. We knew from the start that if we granted them religious freedom a civil war would break out. That is what made saddam a good leader, he kept his people in line. if the united states had not of got involved than there would have been less deaths under his own power. Whats the death toll on their side? about ten times as less than the united states and allied forces have done in ten years.

General post:

As for war over there, between standing military's if the united states and its allies were to wage war even against all three we would win. No two ways about it we would destroy them now with that being said if we had to do with them as we have done in afgan and iraq than we will lose in the long run.

The united states military is not set up to be police we never were, That is why we are getting our asses handed to us. Give us a standing army and we can clean their clocks but bush wacking we could deal with too, just the rest of the world would have a problem with it.

The wars that the U.S is in can still be won, but we would have to abandon R.O.E and go weapons hot. start burying them in pigs and such we could win. The cost to the soldiers souls on the other hand I don't think we have a right to ask that much of them.



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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I don't understand why people always mention the fact of asking our troops if it is too much or can we expect them to do it. These people have signed on to a respective military force and get paid to do formentioned job. I understand that the lost of life in any respect is bad, but people in the military in my country (Britain) have signed on by their own freewill.

The fact that countless military personnal get killed every year is undisputible, but it has to be put into perspective, what are they dying for is the big question.

In the first world war we lost more life per hour than in the entire gulf war to date, so this just proves (within reason) that it isn't the loss of life (so to speak), but the reason why it was lost, and it is this that I think is the problem. Troops don't know what they are exactly fighting for, they get told human-rights but at home it looks like we (home of said troops) are attacking for some other reason.

This is probably the wrong place to have said this but maybe it needed to be said, so please don't just attack the reply I just wanted to say it.

No western army is designed to police a foreign country, they are designed to attack and remove all possible threats to allied forces/countries. Now that is the problem.



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by Cambion
I don't understand why people always mention the fact of asking our troops if it is too much or can we expect them to do it. These people have signed on to a respective military force and get paid to do formentioned job. I understand that the lost of life in any respect is bad, but people in the military in my country (Britain) have signed on by their own freewill.

The fact that countless military personnal get killed every year is undisputible, but it has to be put into perspective, what are they dying for is the big question.

In the first world war we lost more life per hour than in the entire gulf war to date, so this just proves (within reason) that it isn't the loss of life (so to speak), but the reason why it was lost, and it is this that I think is the problem. Troops don't know what they are exactly fighting for, they get told human-rights but at home it looks like we (home of said troops) are attacking for some other reason.

This is probably the wrong place to have said this but maybe it needed to be said, so please don't just attack the reply I just wanted to say it.

No western army is designed to police a foreign country, they are designed to attack and remove all possible threats to allied forces/countries. Now that is the problem.


From what it appears, the reasons some of these wars, such as the one in Afghanistan, for example, may have actually been just at first, but the subsequent execution and occupation were badly botched{perhaps even made so on purpose by some of those with their own agendas}. I fear any major intervention in Libya or Syria could go in the same direction. Egypt is one country which has already fallen into the devious clutches of the radical Islamists.........



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 11:49 PM
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LOL-yeah right!!!!


Originally posted by minto
I hope Libya and neighbour countries kicks the crap outa NATO! Its about time people stood up to America just invading everyone.



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 06:15 AM
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well, WW3 didn't start.



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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reply to post by AverageJoe1
 


Star and flag for the post.

I have not read all eighteen pages however I saw this on the last page...


....I do believe it's very possible that the revolution may be risk of being hijacked.........in fact, perhaps it's already been hijacked....


I think it was orchestrated from the start.

Here are the clues.

The deliberate withdrawal of protection for the Mexican border. I went into detail at the beginning of the year - posted on 13-2-2011 in my thread: Napolitano sets stage for False Flag Terrorist Attack (Egypt blew up on 25 January 2011)

I mention a formula from Days of Infamy that has been successfully used to involve the USA in War.

The first stage is to Aggravate, literally to goad them until they had no choice but to strike back (sound familiar?)

The second prong of the strategy is to Insulate. Keep the victims (that's us) from getting the information needed to protect themselves.

The third and final stage is to Facilitate the attack: make it easy by offering no opposition. Like refusing to adequately patrol the US/Mexican border.


ACTUAL Plans for Global Governance in the works:
The Global Governance 2025 project

The National Intelligence Council's 2025 Project

Sep 20, 2010 - Atlantic Council

This report analyzes the gap between current international governance institutions, organizations and norms and the demands for global governance likely to be posed by long-term strategic challenges over the next 15 years. The report is the product of research and analysis by the NIC and EUISS following a series of international dialogues co-organized by the Atlantic Council, TPN, and other partner organizations in Beijing, Tokyo, Dubai, New Delhi, Pretoria, Sao Paulo & Brasilia, Moscow, and Paris. The executive summary is below.


Executive Summary

Global governance—the collective management of common problems at the international level—is at a critical juncture.....


Timeline to Global Governance

From an essay entitled "Stockholm to Rio: A Journey Down a Generation." by Maurice Strong, member of the United Nations funded Commission on Global Governance:

... "Strengthening the role the United Nations can play...will require serious examination of the need to extend into the international arena the rule of law and the principle of taxation to finance agreed actions which provide the basis for governance at the national level. But this will not come about easily. Resistance to such changes is deeply entrenched. They will come about not through the embrace of full blown world government, but as a careful and pragmatic response to compelling imperatives and the inadequacies of alternatives."

"The concept of national sovereignty has been an immutable, indeed sacred, principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation. What is needed is recognition of the reality that in so many fields, and this is particularly true of environmental issues, it is simply not feasible for sovereignty to be exercised unilaterally by individual nation-states, however powerful. ...

sovereignty.net...



FABIAN SOCIETY PAMPHLET in EGYPT:
From Dictator to Democracy was seen in Egypt


As journalists have sought to untangle the disparate threads that unite these uprisings, one of the most interesting revelations has been a common reference to a dusty -- but still relevant -- book, "From Dictatorship to Democracy."

Earlier this month, the New York Times proclaimed its author, Gene Sharp, a "shy intellectual" who had created "the playbook for revolution" -- noting that his work was posted on the Muslim Brotherhood website during the Egyptian uprising, and was cited equally among Tunisians, Bosnians and Estonians in their quest for freedom. So far, it has been translated into 41 languages....
www.politicsdaily.com...


and LOOKY who has free e-books including Gene Sharp's "From Dictatorship to Democracy."Fabian Essays In Socialism


Before Tony Blair became British Prime Minister in May 1997, he was Chairman of the Fabian Society


Tony Blair will earn around £2 million a year in his part-time role as adviser to the Wall Street bank JP Morgan without ever having to go into the office... Last night rumours were growing that he is also increasingly keen on landing the job as the first fully fledged president of the European Union... www.telegraph.co.uk...


So what is Blair doing besides working for JP Morgan? Mr Blair, ... is serving as an international envoy to the Middle East,

...Mr Dimon, who is one of the leading Democrats on Wall Street, said he phoned Mr Blair personally. “I went to visit him and we hit it off.”

He said it was important to both men “to try to make the world a better place...



The hundred year link between the Fabian Socialists (Progressives) and the Rothschilds & Rockefellers: www.rense.com...

Encyclopedia Britannica's definition of Fabian Socialism

Fabian socialism

As the anarcho-communists argued for a form of socialism so decentralized that it required the abolition of the state, a milder and markedly centralist version of socialism, Fabianism, emerged in Britain. Fabian Socialism was so called because the members of the Fabian Society admired the tactics of the Roman general Fabius Cunctator (Fabius the Delayer), who avoided pitched battles and gradually wore down Hannibal’s forces. Instead of revolution, the Fabians favoured “gradualism” as the way to bring about socialism. Their notion of socialism, like Saint-Simon’s, entailed social control of property through an effectively and impartially administered state—a government ... (100 of 8509 words) www.britannica.com...


This dovetails nicely with the ideas expressed by David Rockefeller:
In Sept. 14, 1994 David Rockefeller, speaking at the UN Business Council,.
"This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long - We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

"...The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."

And Last we have the 2002 Rockefeller autobiography “Memoirs” where on page 405," Mr. Rockefeller writes:
“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents... to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as “internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world ... If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”


The Fabian's London School of Economics is where many of the World Class Leaders such as George Soros got their training.


New World Encyclopedia - Organizing knowledge for happiness, prosperity and world peace.

The Fabian Society is a British socialist intellectual movement, whose purpose is to advance the socialist cause by gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary means....

Fabian Society


The Fabian Society is a British socialist intellectual movement, whose purpose is to advance the socialist cause by gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary means....

London School of Economics

Four Fabians, Beatrice and Sidney Webb, Graham Wallas, and George Bernard Shaw founded the London School of Economics with money left to the Fabian Society, including a bequest of £20,000 by Henry Hutchinson....

The LSE was established to further the Fabian aim of bettering society, focusing on research on issues of poverty, inequality and related issues. This led the Fabians, and the LSE, to be one of the main influences on the UK Labour Party.[4]

The school was founded with the initial intention of renewing the training of Britain's political and business elite...

LSE in this sense must be looked at as the father of modern economics studies. Under Beveridge, Friedrich Hayek was appointed as a professor and he brought about the ascendancy of the LSE through his famous debates with John Maynard Keynes..... Many renowned world leaders including John F. Kennedy studied under his guidance at the LSE....

Anthony Giddens, the former director of the LSE, was the creator of the 'Third Way' followed by both Tony Blair (who unveiled the Fabian Window at LSE in 2005) and Bill Clinton. His policy created a balance between the traditional welfare state and the belief in total free market economics. This policy is being put into effect by governments all across the world as free market economies continue to deal with wealth inequalities and bettering the welfare of the general population...


Compare THAT drivel to what is actually happening, a slow return to a serf/lord system with the bankers and "intellectual elite" as the lords.

A Third World War or the THREAT of a Third World War is all about pushing nations into giving up more of their sovereignty.

This is a chilling glimpse of the real face of "Fabian Socialism" from a founding member of the Fabian Society, George Bernard Shaw. Quotes from the "The Real George Bernard Shaw":


....“Under Socialism, you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live, you would have to live well.”

George Bernard Shaw: The Intelligent Woman’s Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, 1928, pg. 470)
[permitted to live????
]

KILLING THOSE “UNFIT TO LIVE”

“The moment we face it frankly we are driven to the conclusion that the community has a right to put a price on the right to live in it … If people are fit to live, let them live under decent human conditions. If they are not fit to live, kill them in a decent human way. Is it any wonder that some of us are driven to prescribe the lethal chamber as the solution for the hard cases which are at present made the excuse for dragging all the other cases down to their level, and the only solution that will create a sense of full social responsibility in modern populations?”

Source: George Bernard Shaw, Prefaces (London: Constable and Co., 1934), p. 296....


Also see: The Dark Roots of EUGENICS By Dennis L. Cuddy, Ph.D.



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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Back on topic: I havent really seen anything leading me to believe that WWIII is going to be in Libya and Syria "In Days". Wassup?



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by AverageJoe1
 


Star and flag for the post.

I have not read all eighteen pages however I saw this on the last page...


....I do believe it's very possible that the revolution may be risk of being hijacked.........in fact, perhaps it's already been hijacked....


I think it was orchestrated from the start.

Here are the clues.

The deliberate withdrawal of protection for the Mexican border. I went into detail at the beginning of the year - posted on 13-2-2011 in my thread: Napolitano sets stage for False Flag Terrorist Attack (Egypt blew up on 25 January 2011)

I mention a formula from Days of Infamy that has been successfully used to involve the USA in War.

The first stage is to Aggravate, literally to goad them until they had no choice but to strike back (sound familiar?)

The second prong of the strategy is to Insulate. Keep the victims (that's us) from getting the information needed to protect themselves.

The third and final stage is to Facilitate the attack: make it easy by offering no opposition. Like refusing to adequately patrol the US/Mexican border.


ACTUAL Plans for Global Governance in the works:
The Global Governance 2025 project

The National Intelligence Council's 2025 Project

Sep 20, 2010 - Atlantic Council

This report analyzes the gap between current international governance institutions, organizations and norms and the demands for global governance likely to be posed by long-term strategic challenges over the next 15 years. The report is the product of research and analysis by the NIC and EUISS following a series of international dialogues co-organized by the Atlantic Council, TPN, and other partner organizations in Beijing, Tokyo, Dubai, New Delhi, Pretoria, Sao Paulo & Brasilia, Moscow, and Paris. The executive summary is below.


Executive Summary

Global governance—the collective management of common problems at the international level—is at a critical juncture.....


Timeline to Global Governance

From an essay entitled "Stockholm to Rio: A Journey Down a Generation." by Maurice Strong, member of the United Nations funded Commission on Global Governance:

... "Strengthening the role the United Nations can play...will require serious examination of the need to extend into the international arena the rule of law and the principle of taxation to finance agreed actions which provide the basis for governance at the national level. But this will not come about easily. Resistance to such changes is deeply entrenched. They will come about not through the embrace of full blown world government, but as a careful and pragmatic response to compelling imperatives and the inadequacies of alternatives."

"The concept of national sovereignty has been an immutable, indeed sacred, principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation. What is needed is recognition of the reality that in so many fields, and this is particularly true of environmental issues, it is simply not feasible for sovereignty to be exercised unilaterally by individual nation-states, however powerful. ...

sovereignty.net...



FABIAN SOCIETY PAMPHLET in EGYPT:
From Dictator to Democracy was seen in Egypt


As journalists have sought to untangle the disparate threads that unite these uprisings, one of the most interesting revelations has been a common reference to a dusty -- but still relevant -- book, "From Dictatorship to Democracy."

Earlier this month, the New York Times proclaimed its author, Gene Sharp, a "shy intellectual" who had created "the playbook for revolution" -- noting that his work was posted on the Muslim Brotherhood website during the Egyptian uprising, and was cited equally among Tunisians, Bosnians and Estonians in their quest for freedom. So far, it has been translated into 41 languages....
www.politicsdaily.com...


and LOOKY who has free e-books including Gene Sharp's "From Dictatorship to Democracy."Fabian Essays In Socialism


Before Tony Blair became British Prime Minister in May 1997, he was Chairman of the Fabian Society


Tony Blair will earn around £2 million a year in his part-time role as adviser to the Wall Street bank JP Morgan without ever having to go into the office... Last night rumours were growing that he is also increasingly keen on landing the job as the first fully fledged president of the European Union... www.telegraph.co.uk...


So what is Blair doing besides working for JP Morgan? Mr Blair, ... is serving as an international envoy to the Middle East,

...Mr Dimon, who is one of the leading Democrats on Wall Street, said he phoned Mr Blair personally. “I went to visit him and we hit it off.”

He said it was important to both men “to try to make the world a better place...



The hundred year link between the Fabian Socialists (Progressives) and the Rothschilds & Rockefellers: www.rense.com...

Encyclopedia Britannica's definition of Fabian Socialism

Fabian socialism

As the anarcho-communists argued for a form of socialism so decentralized that it required the abolition of the state, a milder and markedly centralist version of socialism, Fabianism, emerged in Britain. Fabian Socialism was so called because the members of the Fabian Society admired the tactics of the Roman general Fabius Cunctator (Fabius the Delayer), who avoided pitched battles and gradually wore down Hannibal’s forces. Instead of revolution, the Fabians favoured “gradualism” as the way to bring about socialism. Their notion of socialism, like Saint-Simon’s, entailed social control of property through an effectively and impartially administered state—a government ... (100 of 8509 words) www.britannica.com...


This dovetails nicely with the ideas expressed by David Rockefeller:
In Sept. 14, 1994 David Rockefeller, speaking at the UN Business Council,.
"This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long - We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

"...The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."

And Last we have the 2002 Rockefeller autobiography “Memoirs” where on page 405," Mr. Rockefeller writes:
“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents... to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as “internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world ... If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”


The Fabian's London School of Economics is where many of the World Class Leaders such as George Soros got their training.


New World Encyclopedia - Organizing knowledge for happiness, prosperity and world peace.

The Fabian Society is a British socialist intellectual movement, whose purpose is to advance the socialist cause by gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary means....

Fabian Society


The Fabian Society is a British socialist intellectual movement, whose purpose is to advance the socialist cause by gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary means....

London School of Economics

Four Fabians, Beatrice and Sidney Webb, Graham Wallas, and George Bernard Shaw founded the London School of Economics with money left to the Fabian Society, including a bequest of £20,000 by Henry Hutchinson....

The LSE was established to further the Fabian aim of bettering society, focusing on research on issues of poverty, inequality and related issues. This led the Fabians, and the LSE, to be one of the main influences on the UK Labour Party.[4]

The school was founded with the initial intention of renewing the training of Britain's political and business elite...

LSE in this sense must be looked at as the father of modern economics studies. Under Beveridge, Friedrich Hayek was appointed as a professor and he brought about the ascendancy of the LSE through his famous debates with John Maynard Keynes..... Many renowned world leaders including John F. Kennedy studied under his guidance at the LSE....

Anthony Giddens, the former director of the LSE, was the creator of the 'Third Way' followed by both Tony Blair (who unveiled the Fabian Window at LSE in 2005) and Bill Clinton. His policy created a balance between the traditional welfare state and the belief in total free market economics. This policy is being put into effect by governments all across the world as free market economies continue to deal with wealth inequalities and bettering the welfare of the general population...


Compare THAT drivel to what is actually happening, a slow return to a serf/lord system with the bankers and "intellectual elite" as the lords.

A Third World War or the THREAT of a Third World War is all about pushing nations into giving up more of their sovereignty.

This is a chilling glimpse of the real face of "Fabian Socialism" from a founding member of the Fabian Society, George Bernard Shaw. Quotes from the "The Real George Bernard Shaw":


....“Under Socialism, you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live, you would have to live well.”

George Bernard Shaw: The Intelligent Woman’s Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, 1928, pg. 470)
[permitted to live????
]

KILLING THOSE “UNFIT TO LIVE”

“The moment we face it frankly we are driven to the conclusion that the community has a right to put a price on the right to live in it … If people are fit to live, let them live under decent human conditions. If they are not fit to live, kill them in a decent human way. Is it any wonder that some of us are driven to prescribe the lethal chamber as the solution for the hard cases which are at present made the excuse for dragging all the other cases down to their level, and the only solution that will create a sense of full social responsibility in modern populations?”

Source: George Bernard Shaw, Prefaces (London: Constable and Co., 1934), p. 296....


Also see: The Dark Roots of EUGENICS By Dennis L. Cuddy, Ph.D.


I'm sorry, but much of this makes no sense whatsoever.........I mean, come on, socialists in favor of people being ruled by international bankers? Really?

And the border patrolling is a damn joke, too, btw.



posted on Jul, 5 2011 @ 12:10 AM
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The clock is still ticking!! just to get back on topic when exactly is WW3 going to start oh i get it must be in a few more weeks lol



posted on Jul, 5 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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Yeah im still just not seeing this. Time to lock the thread?



posted on Jul, 5 2011 @ 12:46 PM
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And still more to come...July 3/11

The lies and propaganda by the West, Israel and Saudi Arabia are still pouring out. I still have to ask the question of where the proof is? Why would Iran, with a track record of not attacking anyone in over 200 yrs, all of a sudden go rogue? We have been warned for yrs of the impending Doom from Iran, with no proof or actions to back up the claims.

Very valid questions being asked:
www.activistpost.com...

Why would Iran look to strain already weak links with the West, knowing that they are itching for a reason to ramp-up efforts to attack their nation?

Why would they give the United States more reasons to justify keeping troops in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Furthermore, why would they funnel arms to the Taliban knowing that this could easily give credence to another troop surge?

Seeing as Iran still exists as a sovereign nation after all of these years of saber rattling, can we really assume they are dumb enough to engage in such a short-sighted and pointless practice?

Will this be used as a reason for war? It's getting more and more confusing and difficult to find the actual truth.

According to more unnamed U.S. officials, the Iranian regime has allegedly sent military advisers to Syria to help President Bashar al-Assad crush the popular Syrian uprising.

Unnamed?...Allegedly? These are the buzz words that are used in the MSM over and over again to plant the ideas and agenda into an already gullible population and quite frankly, when I see them, it sends up even more warning signs.
www.sovereignindependent.com...

More:

Clinton still up to her tricks. July 3/11
US threatens Syria with more unrest
www.sovereignindependent.com...

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has issued another threat to the Syrian government, vowing that it will face more unrest unless it implements swift reforms.

In her recent visit to Lithuania, Clinton boasted that the clock was ticking for Syria, demanding for Damascus to “begin a genuine transition to democracy” or face an increasingly organized resistance, a Press TV correspondent reported.



edit on 5-7-2011 by jude11 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 5 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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Ok, another joke plays itself out and nothing happens. Anyone who flagged this post should not be able to flag again for one month. There should be some negative to always being wrong. We need negative flags too.
V



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 02:13 AM
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Originally posted by Variable
Ok, another joke plays itself out and nothing happens. Anyone who flagged this post should not be able to flag again for one month. There should be some negative to always being wrong. We need negative flags too.
V


Can't help but agree. As I've stated many times, the world economy is already down the toilet and unlike what happened in 1939, another major war won't save anything at all, for anybody........just look at what's happened with the U.S. over the past decade; two wars helped RUIN the economy, one botched(Afghanistan), and the other unwarranted(Iraq). Do people honestly think it'll be any different for any other major great power, even China?

Frankly, what more & more people in every country are wanting is a new order(and not a counterfeit one where the status quo stays the same) where peace is the rule, and not the exception; where financial corruption is much harder to come across; where extremists of any stripe have a much harder time recruiting for their causes; and where people can finally come together as one, or at least, as much as possible.

I can guarantee, that even in the most dictatorial of nations, like China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, or N. Korea, people will eventually rise up and say that, "Enough is goddamn enough, already!", especially if any gov't were to actually try to start WW3.



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 11:37 AM
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Ummm yeah...just really not seeing this happening. I know this is the WWIII thread and all but cant we wait and start threads when we have something a little more credulous?

Just really not seeing WWIII in Libya and Syria right now-sorry im not.



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by princeofpeace
Ummm yeah...just really not seeing this happening. I know this is the WWIII thread and all but cant we wait and start threads when we have something a little more credulous?

Just really not seeing WWIII in Libya and Syria right now-sorry im not.


It's not that much of a stretch. There are problems on the Syria/Turkey border with Turkey saying they might go into Syria to set up a buffer zone. Syria/Iran/Hezbollah have a defense pact.....Turkey is a member of NATO. Russia has ports in Syria, supplies weapons to Iran, etc.

If there is going to be a WWIII then it will most likely start in the M.E. - people have know this for some time. Of course it's not guaranteed, but all the pieces are in place and it most definitely could happen, therefor speculation is totally valid.





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