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Instability in Israel sparks growing exodus from Promised Land

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posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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Instability in Israel sparks growing exodus from Promised Land
rt.com...


Israel was a state created for Jewish people from all over the world to call their home. But due to security fears, growing numbers of Israelis want to leave, opting for EU or American citizenship to meet their expectations of a promised land.



In the last decade, some 50,000 Israelis have applied for EU citizenship.  A quarter of a million already have a second passport. It is unlikely that any other country in the world has such a large percentage of new immigrants preparing to leave.

“It’s really an irony of history, because Israel was established to become a shelter to the Jewish people,” says Gideon Levy, a columnist at Ha’aretz newspaper. “Now Europe becomes a shelter for the Jews living in Israel.”




posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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Another angle on this is the possibility of the fact that most Israeli people don't agree with their governments stance and actions with regard to certain situations in the region.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by DROKKR
Another angle on this is the possibility of the fact that most Israeli people don't agree with their governments stance and actions with regard to certain situations in the region.


It's definitely dangerous living but we are seeing the Jewish folk who do live in Israel not agreeing with their govt. So let's say it's all these things. The world itself is in strife. Big things are coming our way soon, this is just the latest & greatest



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by DROKKR
Another angle on this is the possibility of the fact that most Israeli people don't agree with their governments stance and actions with regard to certain situations in the region.


This is a good point.

I hate the zionist control and its easy to think all jewish people are like this but they are not and many stand up and say so.

I also blame americans a lot for not taking back control of the country from these zionists and you have to agree that if americans can not do it in the USA then what chance has you're average jew got in the zionists home land.

Follow the money not just from 9/11 but also 2008 and arrest some of these people and subject them to GW-Bush water boarding and track the rest down or sit back, do nothing and wait for WWIII because thats where these bankers are taking us.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 05:27 PM
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Israel is also having problems with their own jewish religious extremists.

The Religious Rot In Israel

The Israeli armed forces have, over the last decade, spent an increasing amount of their time dealing with religious extremists. Most of the time, the enemy is some Islamic radical group, like Hamas or al Qaeda. But more and more, Jewish religious radicals have become a threat, often from within.

A big problem is draft exemptions granted to members of conservative Jewish sects.

But the religious parties exact a price, and one of the more unpopular ones is exemption from military service for the children of these communities. Thus while every 18 year old woman, who does not belong to a religious community, gets drafted for two years (unless she is married, or has a physical or psychological disability), no 18 year old women in the religious communities are conscripted. It's nearly as bad for the young men, although some 18 year old men from religious communities volunteer. Most do not, and their absence in the military is increasingly noted.

The problems extend beyond draft dodging. Last year, the head of the armed forces openly reminded all officers that, when they are on active duty, they must obey their officers, and not their rabbis. The major dispute comes from the deeply religious settler (in the West Bank) community. These are the Jews that believe in “Greater Israel.” That is, an Israel that takes over the West Bank and all other territories that were once part of Israel in the ancient past. This would include, depending on which version of Greater Israel you believe in, parts of Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and other nearby countries. The Greater Israel movement is particularly popular in the Jewish settlements in the West Bank (and, until 2005, in Gaza).

Israel, being a democracy, has found that a majority of the population does not agree with the Greater Israel idea either. So periodic decisions to shut down the settlements in Gaza brings the government into direct confrontation with the Greater Israel movement. Since the settlers believe they are obeying a religious mandate to resettle historically Jewish lands, they see efforts to remove them in religious, not political, terms. Israel has a conscript army, thus many of the troops are believers in the Greater Israel concept. These soldiers are being told by their religious leaders that they should refuse orders to assist in the removal of settlers from Gaza. This brings us back to the commander of the Israeli armed forces reminding everyone that the religious leaders have no authority to countermand orders from military commanders.

This is not the first time individual Israelis have refused to follow military orders they did not agree with. In the past, these soldiers were simply removed from service, and sometimes jailed. But now the number of soldiers who might be involved numbers in the thousands. The army is allowing some soldiers, with relatives in settlements to be shut down, to, if need be, transfer to another unit. But beyond that, the army is telling the troops that it will not allow rabbis to countermand military orders. Any soldier who refuses to obey officers will be punished. Some generals are demanding a similar approach to the many draft exemptions religious Jews get.

This is evolving into a major problem, despite the fact that Israel is a democracy. Major decisions, like who should be conscripted, should represent the majority. While the religious parties in Israel have always been small (about 15 percent of the parliament), they continue to demand, and get, more special treatment. These parties are more religious than political, and are also seeking new laws that will increase the power of religion in day to day life. The fear in Israel is that some of the deeply religious Jews will become radicalized, and violent. As some Israelis have been heard to observe, “Israel is turning into a Middle Eastern country.”

Israel is not the ``perfect example of a country where everything is alright`` the MSM wants to portray.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 05:40 PM
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Wow I was not aware of a Jewish threat from the inside. Very interesting, good post



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 08:05 PM
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Thats interesting.

Keep in mind that those who want to leave are of the secular persuasion.

The more of them that leave, the more influence they leave to the religious Jews.

I know many religious Israeli Jews who have no intention in leaving Israel. In their mind, theyre living in the times preceding the messianic redemption.

And considering the birthrate of Haredim (orthodox), and secular Jews wanting to leave Israel, G-d, or atleast circumstances are creating a scenario in which the Orthodox can take complete control of the country.

This is the natural result of the dejudaizing of Israeli society. In the minds of todays 40 and under generation, they think, what do we have to fight for? Whats left? Whats the point? This is the basic tone of Israels secular Jews. They have no desire to die for a cause they no longer believe in....Israeli academics call todays generation 'post-zionist', as in the media, academics at hebrew u, bar ilan, tel aviv university, and others of the 'branja' class no longer believe in the message and purpose of Zionism. And this is what you constantly read in Haaretz, ynet, jerusalem post. etc

But there are still some 1 + milion Haredim and observant Jews who probably comprise some 3 million individuals who will inherit what the secular/liberal Jews cant maintain; living in the middleeast amidst people who want you dead. Only a religious Jew can tolerate that environment.




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