The very likely direction this thing is going in....

Korean Scientists Smuggled to U.S.
23-Apr-2003



Twenty of North Korea's best scientists, including nuclear specialists, have defected to the U.S. in a secret smuggling operation through the Pacific island of Nauru. The defections began in October when the scientists first traveled to China and then were able to hide inside the consulates of 11 countries for as long as a month. The head of North Korea's nuclear program, Kyong Won-ha, was helped by the Spanish consulate and is now in a safe house, where he's giving information on Korean nukes to the West.
Operation Weasel was operated by private citizens from South Korea and the U.S. and its allies, rather than by any government. This operation may be one reason North Korea has agreed to join talks with the U.S. and China next week. The last time the U.S. and North Korea talked was last October, when U.S. Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly said North Korea had admitted running a covert program to make nuclear weapons.

Washington lawyer Philip Gagner was the one who got Nauru involved in the operation. On October 12, he wrote to Nauru's then president, Rene Harris, "Some of the governments involved, including governments in the Pacific and the United States Government, would like to have the assistance of the Nauru Government in a diplomatic matter of very great sensitivity, (which) involves a country � not Iraq � which may have acquired weapons of primary concern to other governments and other countries in the region and the world."

Harris and his successor Bernard Dowiyogo were told that Nauruan missions would be opened in Washington and Beijing free of charge to Nauru. The cover would be that this was done to help Nauru's trade with the West, but Harris says the real reason "was to expedite the movement of these very important refugees."

Nauru's former finance minister Kinza Clodumar says, "We were going to get a (North Korean) nuclear scientist and his family from a farm in China and then take them in a Nauru consulate car to an embassy." The plan to use Nauru was organized by Americans and New Zealanders. Other countries believed to have taken part in Operation Weasel include Vanuatu, Thailand, The Philippines and Spain.

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N korea says war at any time

wow, be back monday!!!

WASHINGTON, May 2 (UPI) -- Anna Perez, White House communications counselor, Friday sharply contested a United Press International report that national security adviser Condoleezza Rice and political adviser Karl Rove shut down a Pentagon plan to expand the Iraqi ground war to Syria in closing days of combat.

"That never happened," she said. "It is a complete fabrication."

Perez also said there was no meeting on this subject at the White House with Israeli National Security Adviser Efrian Halevy and other officials.

UPI's report, published Friday afternoon, quoted unidentified administration officials as saying that a combination of Pentagon hawks and senior Israeli officials had been pressing the United States to expand the ground war to Syria. The officials spoke to UPI on condition of anonymity.

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during this whole mess i had a bad feeling about syria, i didn't think we'd actually do anything. good thing we didn't too, cos europe would get angry. i belive that the pentagon probably had some outlines for an attack, but no definate plan, that makes more sence than condoleeza rice saving the day and making them not. who knows for sure, all i know is we didn't and that's what matters.

Korean Scientists Smuggled to U.S.

It happens all the time, its called defecting.

NWO is inevitable. But there will be steady rebel resistance if it comes into power. The problem is that most people dont know what it is. So i think that the best thing to do now to prevent and delay NWO is to EDUCATE THE MASES. We need to make everybody aware what the NWO is and then the rebelion will naturallly follow. What I am trying to say, is that if every body was aware that the NWO is coming into power then there would definetly be more resistance.

NWO is inevitable. But there will be steady rebel resistance if it comes into power. The problem is that most people dont know what it is. So i think that the best thing to do now to prevent and delay NWO is to EDUCATE THE MASES. We need to make everybody aware what the NWO is and then the rebelion will naturallly follow. What I am trying to say, is that if every body was aware that the NWO is coming into power then there would definetly be more resistance.

NWO is in power, We have already past the threshold. We no longer even have the resourses to try to mass communicate, Everything is in Government control, but I do believe that the NWO was doomed to fail. It is based on an Athiest belief, Humanity needs to believe in something in order to keep moving forward, humanity needs to believe that their is something more out there, Athiest believe that their is nothing after death, Death is the beginning of your life, life is the beginning of your death, Everything has two sides to it, The opposite of an opposite.

NWO is in power, but just like Communism, Its another Perfect Government for an Imperfect People. The both don't go together.

Omega, the main problem is that the Cabal has been in power for over 300 years, and actually built the systems that we live in today from the ground up. Those of us who understand the system know that we are essentially sitting in a giant trap just waiting for it to spring shut on us, trapping us. The time in not quite right for it, for there would be the chance of massive popular uprising which is why it hasnt happened yet.

However, certain technologies that would prevent this are on the verge of operational deployment, as well as the correct economic and political environment to allow it to happen with a minimum of popular disruption.

However, the problem with starting a widespread popular uprising is that the sheeple do not understand that the world we live in has been engineered since before thier grandparents were born, and have no clue as to the ultimate end and goals for this engineering.

Hence the general perception of us conspiracy theorists as nutcases.

Very good point fox striker and dragonrider. I did not look at it from that perspective. You shed light on a topic I know little about. Thanks guys!....so what do we do? wait until it falls because of it's faults? I am not sure, but I think that the internal resistence that it would encounter would be too great, and it would be a doomed regime. I think that rebellion fuels more rebels and so on and so forth. Have you guys read 1984 by George Orwell? Reminds me of this alot...

[Edited on 7-5-2003 by omega1]

The NWO is like the Matrix, we don't know were living it but trust me it's there. The problem omega1 is that the people are so overly dependent on the system (matrix=NWO) that if they ever came into power (NWO) people wouldn't care. NWO is like cancer, its growth rate is rising and its abnormal to what where all used to, but the fact remains that we all have to deal with it eventually. The problem is that the people have not yet been informed of this cancer and never will be until its uncureable.

NWO is too powerful to take down, thats why the US uses such things as luxuries, patriotism, honor, war against an evil enemy, ect... to blind its citizen. The reason they don't tell us is because NWO wants us to keep feeding the machine they have created.

Theirs no point in fighting fire with fire; us vs. NWO. We need to fight water with fire. us(water) vs. NWO(fire)

Unfortunetly, I think we are fifty plus some years to late. The last chance we had of reversing this was at the beginning of WW2.

Well good luck, I will hope for the best, but theirs no power left in hope.

good comparisons. well seems kinda hopeless but i guess im gonna die fighting.......dunno maybe it even makes more sense just to go with it. American Imperialism is just feeding it. There will be rebels and they will get eliminated.--but in a way that is just feeding the NWO.

If they can show the masses that resistance is futile, then I think they have just won the battle. The past will reveal itself in the future, and our own history will be altered in order to change the future.

Us Imperialism or European Imperialism? You choose. I prefer not to be under European dominion, because thier super left wing brain raping thought control standards are pretty much unbearable. The EU is no more benevolent than the US. Downright scary when you look at thier policies and such. Democratic? The EU is no more democratic than we are, probably, even less so.

The US will someday collapse as do all superpowers. Who will take our place? Not the EU. Thats for damn sure. In order to be a superpower, you need MILITARY to protect all that money. The EU? Please dont make me laugh. The only capable and workable military in Europe left that is to be reckoned with is the UK. I have seen the french, german, dutch, belgain militarys. I still laugh at the mental images. Thier soldiers think that they win wars negotioating with invaders? More laughter.

The next superpower is Asia. People have such short attention spans and are such short term thinkers. The last decade hasnt been kind to asia. But niether did the US get off to a good start either. Asia will dominate, you can rest assure. I still see Japan as a possibility here. We keep the boot down from them forming a real good sized military. But take the boot off....... Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore...the future is Asia. And given the choice, ill take asian dominion over European Orwellian socialism anyday.

In either case, my pipe dream has always been and will continue to be total US isolation from world affairs. We have a wonderful country. We need to keep it that way by bring our troops home, tightening the borders, and revamping pur whole economy and society. Takes time and sacrifice. We need to get UN dependant on foreign trade and resources, and look toward self sufficency, both from the chains of the middle eastern oil and foreign investors.

Only then will we truly be free, protected by oceans, a military in force piled up within our own borders, and a self sufficent economy and standard of living.

The next superpower is Asia

not if the strategically placed SARS kills them 1st.

my pipe dream has always been and will continue to be total US isolation from world affairs

the US wants to rule the world.

yeah good point....... It reminds me of Orwells 1984:

the US wants to rule the world.

So does everyone else, they simply want thier ideal imposed.

Thus the need for isolation from the world.

Just imagine, if the USA would have stayed isolated. Half the problems the economy has, not too mention the world policing, may have been drastically reversed. Meaning we wouldn't be spread over half the planet, and our markets would be local. Keeping our people employed. What I find totally absurd about our global trade is half the stuff we export, we turn around and import from someone else?! Duh! no wonder our economy is screwed up!

[Edited on 9-5-2003 by ADVISOR]
Btw, I havn't heard from anyone about the radio transmissions. I wonder if ham radio is secure enough, perhaps we can convince some truckers to act as relay.



[Edited on 9-5-2003 by ADVISOR]

The next superpower is Asia

Indeed, it is most probable that China will be the 1st superpower in 2030...........

Step one of the US taking out OPEC...

Iraq's Crude Awakening
It's only a trickle now, but it could become a gusher that rocks the world


Saturday, May. 10, 2003
Just to look at Iraq today, one would never know that it's an oil giant. it's a country nearly paralyzed by an energy crisis. Everywhere, drivers sit in endless lines of cars, sometimes for days, to buy gasoline. Electricity comes and goes. Homes lack fuel for cooking. Iraq's oil industry, which in its heyday produced 3.5 million bbl. a day, now produces little more than 5% of that. Refineries operate at less than 30% of capacity. But the picture belies a deeper reality: Iraq is potentially the most important new player in the global oil market. Although each day brings fresh accounts of breakdowns in the country's crude-oil machinery�fractured pipe- lines, controls damaged by looters, rusting equipment, 1970s technology in the 21st century�Iraq is the only country capable of flooding the world with cheap oil on the scale of Saudi Arabia. And that poses a major test for Washington.

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Justice O'Connor tapped for Mideast law effort
President Bush has named Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor to lead a forum on judicial reforms in the Middle East as a way to foster free trade with the US. Mr. Bush appears to be pulling out all the stops to achieve a US-Mideast free-trade zone within a decade.

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The public information rhetoric is ratcheting up against Syria... Our next step is not too far away...


'King of clubs' being sheltered by Syrian army
By Damien Mcelroy in Damascus
(Filed: 11/05/2003)


The king of clubs from America's card deck of most wanted Iraqis is being sheltered at a military base in the Syrian capital Damascus, according to a Gulf diplomat.

Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, a former vice-president of Iraq and one of Saddam Hussein's closest henchmen, is said to be under the protection of Syria's Republican Guard in the decrepit military base near the airport.

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