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posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 07:02 PM
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I think it was in the Zetgeist movie I first heard of this... I guess it's not that crazy after all. (I'm talking about the single world goverment parts, since there is so much stuff there)
Will we ever get there? If we do, how would daily life be?
Great post, OP!




posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 07:45 PM
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As much as there is anti-NWO mood, you should understand that it is not a bad thing. Capitalism is very exploitable in very important way, centralization of wealth and power to those who have money. Globalization is important step towards better humanity. United under one country, freed of religion and nationalism, we can explore universe as one, and perhaps coexist with other species as one. In a practical way, what is the meaning of nationalism, or hunting of money ? With a balanced system like participatory economy we can achieve so much more. Democracy is also very bad system because well... majority of people are stupid. You know it. Thing that has more advertisement or propagation will be very likely passed, but it wont be good. Rule of intelligence would be ideal, without such things as luck today(risking on markets etc..), or treating money like a resource. Planet must be united. It cannot be achieved through democracy nor capitalism. Maybe that is what our galaxy neighbors are waiting for...

When you talk about freedom from religion and nationalism, what you probably mean is the removal of free will. That, along with the assault on property rights as a policy, can only lead to totalitarianism and enslavement.

There will be those who attempt to justify the replacement of democracy with a better system; one which imposes rule without the consent of the governed. These people are tyrants, and they claim their doctrine and policies to be "for our own good". Of course the tyrants' true motivations are far from altruistic.

Changing society cannot be done by force, for there will always be a revolution waiting to push back. Man's spirit yearns for freedom. If you want true change, you must change men's hearts. Individuals must choose to be freed from the limitations of the church, the state, and the mob. And then maybe one day the one-hundredth monkey will have learned...



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 07:52 PM
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I've only had time to glance at this as it's rather late, but it looks like one of the best posts ever on ATS
(I've read 1,000's)

I'll be back tomorrow to save it all and read in depth

Stars and Flag

Thank you!!



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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The socialist state is worst than the capitalist state because it is more inclusive in it's coverage and more unlimited in its powers.

Organization breeds corruption, total organization corrupts totally.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 08:26 PM
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Wow nice man, So much to read I do not have the time right now, but what I have read so far is intriging..This is one of those very few posts that deserves epic stars. This is what ATS is about.


Deebo
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posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 08:30 PM
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Star and Flag :-)

Good documentary evidence for what is truely going on.

Especially liked the parts about USA once again returning to the fold as part of the wider British Empire, I have long been of the mind that America was a sub-division of the British State, with many references in books and movies using the term " The Company" to identify the CIA and other shadowy, un-named agencies. The Company, as I understand it was and is 'The Virginia Company' set-up in the early 17th Cen. {snip}

Sorry was about to get carried away...

One other point, my own current reading is in the area of the late nineteenth and early twentieth century postulations on the notion that the 'Anglo-saxon' decended peoples are actually the decendants of the so-called 'lost' (northern) Tribes of Israel. Indeed, the book i'm currently on is actually called "British Israel Truth" published in 1926. It may provide a clue as to why the British and the (Anglo-saxon) Americans lend so much support to the Judah-ite State called Israel... maybe a little understood part of this bigger puzzle...

Anyway
Great post, i'll be re-reading it a few times methinks.

P.S. So much is said about the CFR, but so little mention of the Trilateral Commission, have they come up much in your researches?

Peace and Light



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 08:33 PM
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I truly wish I could put this in a mass email and send it to everyone I know without ruining my credibility and most likely losing my job.

The information you have gathered is mostly common knowledge among us on ATS, but the links you have provided offer significant evidence that we're not all paranoid, anti govt nuts.

The names mentioned as being the proponents of this shadow group of power players are the usual suspects: men like Kissinger, Gates, Soros, Rockefellers etc... believe themselves to be elite, and believe that the 99% of the dumb, ignorant masses, would rather be blindly led by the elite 1%, and that this concept rationalizes their actions.

This notion may be true to an extent, but I tend to believe that most people would vomit if they were to wake up to the reality we know all too well.

This is what makes the internet so dangerous, and why it is currently under attack. TPTB contol all other forms of media, and when brave men like Bill Cooper try to wake up the sleeping masses, they usually seal their own fate.

Even some MSM figures who may know what is going on, probably also know that they have to tread carefully if they want to keep their jobs, their families, and their lives.

This is apparent when people try to seriously address "conspiracy theories" on any mainstream media and are always either laughed off stage, mocked, or made to look like lunatics.

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posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 09:01 PM
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S and F. This is a great collection of evidence. The final video of the speech really brings it home. I have read parts of this in other threads but not all of it in one place. Thanks for tying it all together. I will save this thread for reference.

I have never understood why the world thinks that a few folks sitting around a table should decide how everybody on earth should live. Our country was discovered, explored, settled and created by men and women who were brave. Brave men and women who were willing to take risk to have the opportunity to have a better life. They defended themselves and made their own way. They created a limited government to take care of just a few minor things and to preserve the nation. This is the kind of country I want to live in, and I think we should return to it. Yes it may be more dangerous or risky place to live, but the liberty that comes with it is well worth the risk. That is why it is (or was) the land of the free and the home of the Brave (not the scared).

Thanks again for a great thread.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 09:07 PM
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Great post...Flag and star to ya... It was a great post need to see more post like this ..what makes ats ATS



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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So What are we celebrating this "4th of July? Can someone explain the blasphemous contradiction of this upcoming oxymoronic National federal holiday. America is a still only a company within the Brutish franchise?



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 09:32 PM
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" Planet must be united. It cannot be achieved through democracy nor capitalism. Maybe that is what our galaxy neighbors are waiting for..."

A United Planet in the Minds of the NWO Types would be one based on Collective Slavery and Class Distinctions. Nationalism MUST be Preserved for the sake of the People of Earth having a Choice in how they Live their Lives According to their Ethnic and Cultural Customs . I would rather Fight a War to Preserve Nationalism then Cede my Self Proclaimed Freedoms to some World Organization that just wants to Control and Limit my ability to Exist in this World as I and others like me see fit..........Individualism over the Collective Must Prevail !



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 09:35 PM
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hey man, very nice post those are some interesting documents


I saw a section where they're talking about the real enemy being humanity... They talk about how pollution, etc are symptoms not cause & the cause is human interferrence with natural processes. I tend to agree with that... our interferrence with nature is one of the causes of pollution.

I think that there are some good ideas & truthes in the documents you share here, but they have/are either being hijacked for dubious intent by people with corrupted morals, AND/OR the problems identified are being tackled the wrong way.

In other words I'm saying that if pollution is a problem & our interferrence is the cause, then we need to reform our methods to be constructive rather than destructive; methods that would benefit nature & man equally.

Then we could try to get the new system to over-unity, where everyone gets more out than we put in, nature included.

In my opinion it seems that we can fix these problems without bringing the concepts of 'humanity' or 'enemies' into it and that is one of the biggest flaws in their 'new world' ideas.

The other thing that strikes me about their ideas is that they're constantly pushing for 'progress' but 'progress' towards what exactly? what about the idea of stopping once in a while to check that you're on the right path rather than marching blindly forward?... it doesn't seem to get a mention.

Thanks again for the thread, its a refreshing change from the norm


Peace,
-Bob
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posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 09:37 PM
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Who controls Britian?

I know the answer but does the OP?

Thats why it is not so much what they tell you but what they do not tell you that is important.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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Great post S&F. The truth is out there, just have to look for it. Individualism and nationalism must be preserved in order to fight the so called 'elites'



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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Who controls Britian? I know the answer but does the OP?


Okay, who?

Really, now, who? An answer or it didn't happen (you knowing)!

To the OP, very nice collection of documents. I shall peruse them mercilessly. My weekend is shot.

Great work. s&f.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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Moderators, can someone tell us why 's name keeps getting edited out of the OP?
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Spell the name backwards... see if it still gets censored.

Very good post.... Very good indeed!



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 11:55 PM
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Starred and Flagged !!!

This is exactly the type of thread that makes ATS #1 out there !!!

Excellent research and a great presentation. I have read from top to bottom, learned many many things I wasn't aware of and will follow the links further more...

Two big big thumbs up !




posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 12:39 AM
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I'm not the one who said this, but I think it's Israel. In some form or another throughout the centuries. Maybe I'm just loony.

I read somewhere, a long time ago, don't know if it's true, but that there are some items from Israel beneath the British throne. yeah, call me loony. Just a conspiracy theory I suppose.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 01:00 AM
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I know this is going to be an unpopular position, but what, exactly is wrong with a universal global government? It could be argued that the United States are a microcosm of just such a system: States have given a measure of sovereignty to the Federal Government, counties to States, cities to counties, and so on. The model is in full swing here and has been for 230 years. What is inherently wrong with expanding that model to a global scale?

I find most of the arguments against a unified world government to be a bit two-faced, at least the American arguments which are the ones I'm familiar with. On one hand, we deplore the idea of anybody telling Americans what to do, unless they are other Americans who have been rightfully elected. On the other hand, we don't seem to mind that we as Americans tell half of everyone else on the planet what they are supposed to do. It seems like most Americans would be okay with a global government, so long as it took the form of an American-ruled empire.

If the argument against global government were a morally honest one, then we would deplore equally the notion of a foreigner ruling over us and the notion of us ruling over foreigners.

But all in all, the OP was great, and really well researched. And anyone who doesn't see the steps being taken toward global government isn't paying much attention. I guess the difference between me and many on ATS is that I actually support a one-world government, because I find it deplorable that billions of people live and die in awful conditions so incompatible with Human dignity, and it's clear that there is no system of International law short of absolute federation that will ever address that problem adequately. The Westphalian System of national sovereignty, like the systems that preceded it, is only as good as the conditions it allows for. It is basically an international "honor system" that leaves billions of people out in the cold.

There is nothing inherently superior about any single nation or any single race of people. I am an American because I live in America; I am a Human because that's what I am. Global politics should reflect that.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 01:04 AM
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Well i read about half of it so far restregooski and i like what you have put together. This is some really damning evidence that shows the World Government has been in the making for a long time.

It seems like there is no democracy its been fascism all along.

Run by the major corporations and the 1450 CFR members who wish to profit of everything thing and the Non-winning war in Vietnam.

So i wonder were the world wars a non-winning war as well that sought to en-debt the nations to reap the profits from them for the eons, centuries.

The world has been duped.


... and soon bow down to your leaders



Since one of your links was Jordan Maxwell i thought this would be appropriate.
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