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posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist

Originally posted by goodday123
Homosexuality is a sin against God's laws...nothing can change that.

A win for civil liberties, a win for freedom, a win for rights...yes


But in the view of God's laws, this is an abomination.


Thank God for God


You're a sin against my God's law. And your God is not my God, and thank God for that.


That sounds like a real witty reply...but explain how if your God is the God of the Bible, then how is it possible that homosexuality is not a sin?

Help me understand your logic?




posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by SonofPeleus
The point is, I am absolutely fed up with having this homosexual agenda forced upon me and my family everywhere I look. It is corrupt and plain wrong. Someone please take me back in a time machine 50 years ago to a place and time when we still had common sense.


Too bad - you lose.

I'm 65 - - 50 years ago was a lie - - people lived roles.

They were not allowed by society to be themselves.

Hooray! For Equal Rights to be yourself (within the law of course).



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by goodday123

Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist

Originally posted by goodday123
Homosexuality is a sin against God's laws...nothing can change that.

A win for civil liberties, a win for freedom, a win for rights...yes


But in the view of God's laws, this is an abomination.


Thank God for God


You're a sin against my God's law. And your God is not my God, and thank God for that.


That sounds like a real witty reply...but explain how if your God is the God of the Bible, then how is it possible that homosexuality is not a sin?

Help me understand your logic?


Why don't you stop worrying about his sins, or anyone else's for that matter, and worry about your own. I know for a FACT that this is what Jesus would be advocating to you right now.
edit on 25-6-2011 by Ryanp5555 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by Jrocbaby
I read a study that shows very homophobic men tend to get turned on when watching gay porn than a non homophobic. Makes perfect sense


Yeah, that may be true, why would they be so concerned about other peoples sex life?



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by SonofPeleus
reply to post by TheOrangeBrood
 


"You" let it slide? Who are YOU, anyway? What authority do YOU have to silence one voice of reason amongst a myriad of BS? You sound like a lesbian feminist, one with plenty of degrees to hide behind, am I right?


Lesbians being females that are attracted to females, pretty sure you couldn't be further from the truth. I also advocated against overt feminism... so I don't know how you even came to that ridiculous conclusion. Just kidding, I know exactly what "type of" logic (or lack thereof) would lead you to such a retarded pre-conclusion.


The point is, I am absolutely fed up with having this homosexual agenda forced upon me and my family everywhere I look. It is corrupt and plain wrong. Someone please take me back in a time machine 50 years ago to a place and time when we still had common sense.


I would gladly send you back in a time machine to place where your ignorant nonsense belongs if I had access to such a device. You could chime with the rest of the "men" who were such great "role models" -- constantly bitching ( like you "real men" do
)about people being allowed the exact same rights as each other. The horror!

P.S. You chose to open the thread and read it, you chose to live in a free country... nobody is forcing you to do anything .

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posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by goodday123

Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist

Originally posted by goodday123
Homosexuality is a sin against God's laws...nothing can change that.

A win for civil liberties, a win for freedom, a win for rights...yes


But in the view of God's laws, this is an abomination.


Thank God for God


You're a sin against my God's law. And your God is not my God, and thank God for that.


That sounds like a real witty reply...but explain how if your God is the God of the Bible, then how is it possible that homosexuality is not a sin?

Help me understand your logic?


My reply wasn't meant to be witty. I was demonstrating in very simple terms how not everybody shares the same concept of religion and God that you do. Not everyone abides by the Bible. Not everyone believes in the concept of God as he solely exists within the rigid, violent, and discriminatory context of the Bible.

So I don't particularly care what the Bible says about homosexuality because the bible was written and pieced together by man, and man is fallible.

I follow my own personal interpretation of what I want God and religion to be and to mean for myself.
edit on 25-6-2011 by arbitrarygeneraiist because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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Homosexuality is not a sin, even according to the bible.
Post proof to me that it is.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Ryanp5555

Originally posted by goodday123

Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist

Originally posted by goodday123
Homosexuality is a sin against God's laws...nothing can change that.

A win for civil liberties, a win for freedom, a win for rights...yes


But in the view of God's laws, this is an abomination.


Thank God for God


You're a sin against my God's law. And your God is not my God, and thank God for that.


That sounds like a real witty reply...but explain how if your God is the God of the Bible, then how is it possible that homosexuality is not a sin?

Help me understand your logic?


Why don't you stop worrying about his sins, or anyone else's for that matter, and worry about your own. I know for a FACT that this is what Jesus would be advocating to you right now.
edit on 25-6-2011 by Ryanp5555 because: (no reason given)


I am fully aware of my sins...

The Jesus you are taking about would be standing right beside me upholding God's laws...you seem to be confused with this Jesus who loves everyone and doesn't stand by God's laws that is portrayed by today's society.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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I just have to say this.

Thank you to all the God believers who are not ignorant or intolerant.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by DigitalControl
Homosexuality is not a sin, even according to the bible.
Post proof to me that it is.


Well that's not true..

..The truth, however, is that Christianity is based on the concept that Jesus changed the entire religious system of Judaism to accept everyone and be humble; not to judge, because God is the ultimate judge. Anyone claiming to be behind Christianity whilst judging homosexuals and demanding that they be afforded lesser rights than anyone is not a true Christian, but merely another blaspheming hate machine.
edit on 25-6-2011 by TheOrangeBrood because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by goodday123

Originally posted by Ryanp5555

Originally posted by goodday123

Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist

Originally posted by goodday123
Homosexuality is a sin against God's laws...nothing can change that.

A win for civil liberties, a win for freedom, a win for rights...yes


But in the view of God's laws, this is an abomination.


Thank God for God


You're a sin against my God's law. And your God is not my God, and thank God for that.


That sounds like a real witty reply...but explain how if your God is the God of the Bible, then how is it possible that homosexuality is not a sin?

Help me understand your logic?


Why don't you stop worrying about his sins, or anyone else's for that matter, and worry about your own. I know for a FACT that this is what Jesus would be advocating to you right now.
edit on 25-6-2011 by Ryanp5555 because: (no reason given)


I am fully aware of my sins...

The Jesus you are taking about would be standing right beside me upholding God's laws...you seem to be confused with this Jesus who loves everyone and doesn't stand by God's laws that is portrayed by today's society.


No, Jesus would be standing on his OWN upholding the laws. Jesus made it clear that you should not sit there and tell others of their sins when you yourself have sinned. Believe me, Jesus does NOT need your help. He judges each person for their own sins; and it's not him and two other schmoes; its not him and the Pope; it is HE who does the judging. And the fact that you don't know this says to me you have never actually read the new testament.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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You mean man's law. God doesn't have any laws. Man conceived and wrote everything that has to do with the religion surrounding the Bible.
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posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by goodday123

Originally posted by Ryanp5555

Originally posted by goodday123

Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist

Originally posted by goodday123
Homosexuality is a sin against God's laws...nothing can change that.

A win for civil liberties, a win for freedom, a win for rights...yes


But in the view of God's laws, this is an abomination.


Thank God for God


You're a sin against my God's law. And your God is not my God, and thank God for that.


That sounds like a real witty reply...but explain how if your God is the God of the Bible, then how is it possible that homosexuality is not a sin?

Help me understand your logic?


Why don't you stop worrying about his sins, or anyone else's for that matter, and worry about your own. I know for a FACT that this is what Jesus would be advocating to you right now.
edit on 25-6-2011 by Ryanp5555 because: (no reason given)


I am fully aware of my sins...

The Jesus you are taking about would be standing right beside me upholding God's laws...you seem to be confused with this Jesus who loves everyone and doesn't stand by God's laws that is portrayed by today's society.


This is the problem with religion, it promotes fantasy based thought that spreads like wildfire.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood

Originally posted by DigitalControl
Homosexuality is not a sin, even according to the bible.
Post proof to me that it is.


Well that's not true..

..The truth, however, is that Christianity is based on the concept that Jesus changed the entire religious system of Judaism to accept everyone and be humble; not to judge, because God is the ultimate judge. Anyone claiming to be behind Christianity whilst judging homosexuals and demanding that they be afforded lesser rights than anyone is not a true Christian, but merely another blaspheming hate machine.
edit on 25-6-2011 by TheOrangeBrood because: (no reason given)


It is true, however. Post a verse that say's homosexuality is a sin.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
when it is in fact a mental disease.


Why is it a mental disease? Because you don't agree with it?Are you a religious person? I guess you've never seen the studies showing religion as a mental disease then? Religion is a cult and most cults are made up of mentally unstable people. All one needs to do is listen to some of these traveling revivals that come through our little town to see how nuts you religious people really are! Hell, just look at those Westboro freaks! But let's deny gays the same rights as everyone else because you believe it's a mental disease.



I say good for New York!

If a man loves another man or a woman loves another woman enough that they want to spend the rest of their lives together who are you, me, or anyone else to deny them the right to be married?


And to those saying it's all part of the gay agenda being thrown in our faces...

Religious people knock on my door all the time trying to get me or my wife and kids to join their cult and then going ballistic and screaming our souls will be damned when I tell them we aren't religious and don't want any part of their church or religion. They even approached our kids while they were outside playing and talked them into going to vacation bible school! We don't deny our kids so when they said they wanted to go we let them. They went once and decided they didn't want to go back. Our 10 year old said we were right and those people were nuts. They had the 6 and 8 year old crying because they kept telling them my wife and I were going to hell because we didn't go to church.

I've yet to have a gay person knock on my door trying to turn me and my family gay. I've yet to have a gay person approach our kids without our consent trying to get them to go to a gay pride event. I've yet to have a gay person scream at us and tell us we're going to hell for not joining their gayness. So who's agenda is being thrown in peoples' faces?

Our 18 year old is gay and if her and her girlfriend want to get married we will fully support them and if any religious person tries to cause either of them harm because of it, they'll quickly find out if their god exists.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist

Originally posted by goodday123

Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist

Originally posted by goodday123
Homosexuality is a sin against God's laws...nothing can change that.

A win for civil liberties, a win for freedom, a win for rights...yes


But in the view of God's laws, this is an abomination.


Thank God for God


You're a sin against my God's law. And your God is not my God, and thank God for that.


That sounds like a real witty reply...but explain how if your God is the God of the Bible, then how is it possible that homosexuality is not a sin?

Help me understand your logic?


My reply wasn't meant to be witty. I was demonstrating in very simple terms how not everybody shares the same concept of religion and God that you do. Not everyone abides by the Bible. Not everyone believes in the concept of God as he solely exists within the rigid, violent, and discriminatory context of the Bible.

So I don't particularly care what the Bible says about homosexuality because the bible was written and pieced together by man, and man is fallible.

I follow my own personal interpretation of what I want God and religion to be and to mean for myself.
edit on 25-6-2011 by arbitrarygeneraiist because: (no reason given)


I understand that, many people have various views. Mine is that the law of God states homosexuality is a sin...and that there is no debate in that fact.

If you want to interpret the Bible differently or somehow discount its authority, that is just an attempt to justify what you know is untrue. Better to not be religious at all...



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir

Originally posted by CobraCommander
If you're scared of drunk drivers, stay home.


If you're scared of married homosexuals, stay home.

Look this really does not seem like an issue that really even needs to be debated. Any action that is truly non-violent and does not intrude upon another individuals rights should not even be up for public debate. Perhaps I deem you a bad parent, so I will stop you from having children by law. You are not directly or indirectly threatening or harming another person nor infringing upon their rights so what business is it of mine to decide whether or not you should be allowed to have a child?



That might be true if they weren't actively turning children in the schools. It is completely offensive that the educational system has been turned into a giant social engineering experiment. Do you approve of State sponsored Values Clarification for the purpose of indoctrination? How about putting someone like Kevin Jennings in charge of school safety after he was known to encourage underage sexual exploitation in school, as well as teaching fisting in a public conference? Enough is enough. We don't need to have such displays in society.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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My older brother is gay, and many of my close friends are as well. My brother is a completely normal guy, with his own job, own friends, own accomplishments, and own life.

There is absolutely no difference between him and any random straight guy. besides the sexual preference of course, so why should he be treated differently by not being allowed to marry? I say good job New York, and I hope many more will follow. This is a good step forward.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood

Originally posted by DigitalControl
Homosexuality is not a sin, even according to the bible.
Post proof to me that it is.


Well that's not true..

..The truth, however, is that Christianity is based on the concept that Jesus changed the entire religious system of Judaism to accept everyone and be humble; not to judge, because God is the ultimate judge. Anyone claiming to be behind Christianity whilst judging homosexuals and demanding that they be afforded lesser rights than anyone is not a true Christian, but merely another blaspheming hate machine.
edit on 25-6-2011 by TheOrangeBrood because: (no reason given)


Your view of Christianity is not what is true...

Jesus did change laws to be more accepting and more tolerant, but Jesus never EVER said to turn your back on God's law.

Did he tell the adulterous woman to "not worry about it, that is just old law"?
Did he say what the people were doing was not sinful? No he stated, "Father forgive them for they know not what they do"

Forgive them for what? SIN!



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by Jrocbaby

Originally posted by goodday123

Originally posted by Ryanp5555

Originally posted by goodday123

Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist

Originally posted by goodday123
Homosexuality is a sin against God's laws...nothing can change that.

A win for civil liberties, a win for freedom, a win for rights...yes


But in the view of God's laws, this is an abomination.


Thank God for God


You're a sin against my God's law. And your God is not my God, and thank God for that.


That sounds like a real witty reply...but explain how if your God is the God of the Bible, then how is it possible that homosexuality is not a sin?

Help me understand your logic?


Why don't you stop worrying about his sins, or anyone else's for that matter, and worry about your own. I know for a FACT that this is what Jesus would be advocating to you right now.
edit on 25-6-2011 by Ryanp5555 because: (no reason given)


I am fully aware of my sins...

The Jesus you are taking about would be standing right beside me upholding God's laws...you seem to be confused with this Jesus who loves everyone and doesn't stand by God's laws that is portrayed by today's society.


This is the problem with religion, it promotes fantasy based thought that spreads like wildfire.


Your logic = " I can't come up with a valid arguement, so I need to prove my intelligence by demeening anyone who disagrees with me"




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