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posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 10:22 PM
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I joined yesterday after lurking for a couple of hours.
For a site dedicated the ideal "deny ignorance," it sure is filled with a lot of ignorant and close minded people. On teh other hand, there also seem to be many well meaning and intelligent contributors.




posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 10:25 PM
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I agree with you there...I seem to spend most of my time trying to get people to open their minds and at least accept the possibility of another point of view.



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 10:32 PM
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I am Rick James Biatch!


Dude, there is no way you have even scratched the surface of opinions, ideas and membership attitude yet...

Take some time, look it ALL over and see if the "intelligent, well meaning posters" don't dramatically outnumber the others... I bet you'll find they DO.


m...



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 10:32 PM
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Welcome Gary, take some time, you're going to get a lot of that during an election year. If you want to chill, check out BTS. Later.



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 10:35 PM
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Its not about being closed minded but about having a Forum to vent or speak what you feel. Unlike other boards ATS allows all thier members to vent, speak and share whatever thought or ideal they may have. Example:Something I belive in that you may not, does not make me close minded as well as something you believe in that I may not. ATS has so much to offer and unless you allow yourself to participate and research things you may have no knowledge of you cannot learn. Remember free reign of thought, yes we all have that power here and sometimes things just dont seem to be as if you were taught so research it and make your own opinion but please dont say that people are closed minded because if they were they would not be part of our community.

Thanks,

remember take each post as a learning curve weather you believe or dont, research it, challenge it and then ask those who believe it to prove it and then make your own opinion.

Have fun and welcome to ATS..



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 10:41 PM
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Freewill, my friends.

Its what you are given from birth.

If you dont like something, you have both the freedom and the will to change it.. So, change it.

If you dont like it here, there is an X (probably) near the top right portion of this window, please click it, and never open it again.

That is the beauty of this "freewill".


On the other hand, if you would like to stay, then you are more than welcome.

I read through a few of both Gary Seven's and Stumason's posts.. Much of what yall post seems rather negative, and at some points, you are out-right attacking people. Perhaps if you presented your "viewpoints" in a more pallatable way, it would get a warmer reception


Either way, stay or leave, I wish ya the best!



[Edited on 9-8-2004 by shidge.]



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 10:44 PM
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at least i post shidge!! Anyway, I dont attack people, I attack their silly ideas, as most people I get into a battle with have no backup to anything they say and spout rhetoric without any free will of their own, merely spewing the party line. And it isn't random people, just Westpoint



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 10:53 PM
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Wow according to Seven, the board is divided into "ignorant and close minded people" and "well meaning and intelligent contributors".

I wonder which group has just increased by 1 now that he has joined?
I hope its the second, but from the attitude I fear its the first.
Try not abusing the posters in your first post, its not endearing, nor does it put your future contributions in a good light.


Originally posted by Gary Seven
I joined yesterday after lurking for a couple of hours.
For a site dedicated the ideal "deny ignorance," it sure is filled with a lot of ignorant and close minded people. On teh other hand, there also seem to be many well meaning and intelligent contributors.


[edit on 9-8-2004 by Netchicken]



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by Netchicken
I wonder which group has just increased by 1 now that he has joined?
I hope its the second, but from the intro I fear its the first.
Try to start off on a better foot .....


Chook: I was wondering that too... It seems to me that when someone walks into your living room and slams half your family you wonder why they bothered to knock on the door huh?

m...



posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by Gary Seven
I joined yesterday after lurking for a couple of hours.


I've been here for about 8 months and I haven't even scratched the surface.
Give yourself time to learn before making such comments.


df1

posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 06:00 AM
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Originally posted by Gary Seven
I joined yesterday after lurking for a couple of hours.
For a site dedicated the ideal "deny ignorance," it sure is filled with a lot of ignorant and close minded people.

Look around at the folks in your in your family, in your neighborhood, in the media and in government. I'd wager to say that the population of ATS reflects the thoughts, ideas and views of the population that you see around you everyday, however the anonymous nature of forums such as ATS gives them the courage to spew forth things that they would not dare say while showing their faces publicly. This being the case, it should come as no great surprise to you that our world is going to hell in a handcart before our eyes. I hope my DSS keeps working so I can watch our destruction on big screen.
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posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 06:09 AM
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Gary I felt similarly when I first joined and started posting. It was like in high school and you have to work your way into the cliches. It took a lot less time here because the people are willing to listen and give feedback. Give it time, I have been here maybe a month, I'm not sure, but I am always here. They should make me pay rent


Just give it some time, post a few things and then see how you feel about it, I think you will be pleasantly surprised.



posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 08:23 AM
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G7,

You unfortunately caught "Secret Societies" at one of its bad moments, all had been quiet for six weeks, with the "Fraternity" threads seeing the most action. Well all that changed in the last few days, and we currently have three "contributors" who are shall we say, "not men of letters". Because of the "efforts" of these "fine participants" the response from the resident "Society" has created something of an uproar, I apologize on behalf of my Brethren, and of course, myself. The resident "Society" is unique in ATS, as we reside in North America, Europe, Australia, and Asia, yet we have a common goal, the enlightenment of those that would ask, and to repudiate the baseless attacks of our detractors. You personally are aware of our intent, within minutes of your first question, I had answered, and given you a course of action to pursue if desired. The rancor over the ill-informed, and ignorant discourse is an unfortunate byproduct of ATS's open forum, to restrict membership, or what ideals could be posted would ultimately invalidate the very pretense that ATS was founded on. Go forth, and enjoy the bounty of wisdom, diversity, and ignorance (opportunity to sharpen your "deny" skills); the benefits far exceed the occasional oppugnant effort.

Howler Monkeys, not just for hearing loss anymore...



posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 09:56 AM
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Welcome an enjoy your close minded stay here at the ATS!



posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 12:38 PM
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Wow according to Seven, the board is divided into "ignorant and close minded people" and "well meaning and intelligent contributors".


I never said such a thing chicken lol


Welcome to the site anyway Gary
any questions send me a u2u
enjoy
se7en



posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 12:46 PM
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I think your just not reading what you want. Post any topic where it belongs! You will be surprised how many people will agree or disagree with you. I agree that some people are set in their ways, but not everbody. Just think of ats as a big debate board with individual thoughts! I ve been here since May and I must say.....Its a blast! Keeps me awake at work!!!



posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by SE7EN



Wow according to Seven, the board is divided into "ignorant and close minded people" and "well meaning and intelligent contributors".


I never said such a thing chicken lol


He was talking to GARY SEVEN, SE7EN.

Sometimes, its even small misunderstandings like these that could lead to bigger problems. OH WELL.

Anyways... welcome to ATS/BTS, Gary Seven! Hope you enjoy your stay, and don't get so opiniated so quickly. ATS is a very open-minded place. If you're tired of all the high & mighty speak, visit BTS. It's the uber-cool place to hang out and deny boredom.

ENJOY!

[STAY COOL)
-prophetmike



posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Gary Seven
I joined yesterday after lurking for a couple of hours.
For a site dedicated the ideal "deny ignorance," it sure is filled with a lot of ignorant and close minded people. On teh other hand, there also seem to be many well meaning and intelligent contributors.





I wouldnt say "ignorent or closeminded" Gary i think of the people on this board more as having a healthy dose of scheptisism(sp). People on here for the main are willing to look at the subjects presented in a calm and rational way and for the main part are fair in the decisions they come to. Sure some people are ignorent and rude but then you get that on whatever forums you get on the internet.
If you have a topic that you can back up with research and good hard facts and reliable sources then you will find the peoeple on here very helpful indeed.


Oh, and welcome by the way


[edit on 10-8-2004 by Janus]



posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by Springer
I am Rick James Biatch!


you must have seen my rant about that elsewhere! One of my friends has changed it to " I'm dead, bitch!" kinda tacky...



posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 01:54 PM
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I am also a new member but who are you to say that someone opions are wrong or closed minded? I thought this was a place you could speak your minds and opions openly and honestly! Maybe ppl need to stop thinking and disecting what ppl think and feel and start worrying about themselves. I say hats off to whoever has the guts to speak their minds on here!! I also say as wierd as some of the opions are on here, it takes all kinds to make the world go round..And did you ever stop to think that ppl who lived in Einsteins times also thought he was insane and he came up with many inventions that have changed our lives forever... So maybe some of the weird and crazy posts on here are made by the next Einstein..Most of our great minds are excentric!!!!!!



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