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Canada, NOT the friendly, nice nation you thought we were! The SICK truth about the great white nort

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posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 11:26 AM
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I am putting this into the General conspiracies as I believe this is a conspiracy of mislead reputation by the Canadian government against its own citizens and the rest of the world…

Canadians used to (and maybe still do in some areas) have a positive reputation. We USED to be that friendly northern nation, only concerned with Hockey, Beer and Peace... HAHA! If you still think that, you are delusional! Not the hockey part (as seen in the disgusting and embarrassing Vancouver riots) but the PEACEFUL part! Its total BS! We are now an NWO nation! We are a puppet and lapdog to the U.S./UN Military industrial complex! No, you say? Check this out:

coat.ncf.ca...

This link provides information to the amount of military exports Canada has been sending to Middle East nations and African nations over the past years… WHAT! But Canada only exports beer, lumber, oil and hockey right? WRONG, dead wrong! In fact, as Canadians, WE have been involved in so many major conflicts lately; it’s almost hard to remember when we tried to look for peace, instead of peace by force!
Did you know that Canada was involved in Iraq?! But wait! We told Bush to shove it when he asked us to invade Iraq right? hahaha, oh you dilusional Canadians... you have just as much Iraqi blood on your hands as the rest of the 'coalition of the willing' !!!
Yes, operation Shock and Awe was not just an American and ‘coalition of the willing’ operation! Don’t believe me? Check it: www.globalresearch.ca...

Yes, Canadians did logistics; YES Canadians escorted American warships, YES, WE WERE INVOLVED in IRAQ and every other recent conflict around the world… Canadians, WE NEED TO CHANGE!! We NEED TO WAKE UP! Why do the media think our biggest story in this country is the royal couple visiting instead of the illegal qar in Libya? Seriously?! Who cares! We are killing people in the name of CANADA and NATO and the UN for what? For the billions in frozen assets that were going towards the African Union? For the countless barrels of oil for our southern partner to continue it’s ‘Policing’ around the world? I am getting more disgusted by our actions as Canadians everyday! And if you think Libya is bad, wait until the UN mandates an invasion into Syria! Will you stand behind the Harper government when the UN tells us to start bombing them too? Are you going to be like most Canadians and not even bat an eye at civilian deaths caused by OUR BOMBS!? BY CANADIAN BOMBS?!
Ok, I have to stop now before my eyes pop out of my head…. Comment or not, I just had to get that out



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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LOL..You write this as it was news and cover ups....Have you been sleeping since 2001 ??? Canada will do all it can to support freedom, it's about time we stop talking and start acting. After sop many years of talking the Canadian mouth has run dry and the international ears deaf !! We are showing what we can do to support international efforts to achieve peace in regions that have been at war for millenniums. Democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and association....Those things we all take for granted, others should have the same basic rights as we have and we are obliged to defend the weaker with the small voice as for that voice is the voice of the few that are brave enough to stand in the face of death for their beliefs!!!



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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Obvi its old news.. but for some sheople its a shocker! ATS is maybe not the place for what i wrote, as most people on here know that Canada is a laptog of the NWO...
You are using the same mumbo-jumbo Harper is using to justify this Libyan conflict... Freedom.. etc etc etc. Why are we doing anything over there when we should be fixing our own issues first! Why? because the UN told us to and we better follow or else... #$%#$ it makes me sick!



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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Is that so shocking op? Canada's government and military has always been manipulated, and controlled by the PTB .




edit on 24-6-2011 by gabby2011 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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Thats Steven Harper regime
and we already know that .. nothing new

put back Jean Chretien




one quote i like in the video from Jean Chretien

CAN I CALL YOU STEVEN W BUSH



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by Ben81
Thats Steven Harper regime
and we already know that .. nothing new

put back Jean Chretien



JEAN CHRETIEN
CAN I CALL YOU STEVEN W BUSH


Blaming it all on Steven Harper is ridiculous..wouldn't matter who was in the office of prime minister, they would be serving the agenda of the ptb, whether they were aware of it or not.
edit on 24-6-2011 by gabby2011 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Fox Molder
LOL..You write this as it was news and cover ups....Have you been sleeping since 2001 ??? Canada will do all it can to support freedom, it's about time we stop talking and start acting. After sop many years of talking the Canadian mouth has run dry and the international ears deaf !! We are showing what we can do to support international efforts to achieve peace in regions that have been at war for millenniums. Democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and association....Those things we all take for granted, others should have the same basic rights as we have and we are obliged to defend the weaker with the small voice as for that voice is the voice of the few that are brave enough to stand in the face of death for their beliefs!!!


I'm sorry but I harshly disagree. All we've done is bring a new style of war to that area and as you so eloquently placed it, they have been at war for millenium, so what makes you think we are acheiving "peace" when all we've done is placed more war ontop of it to cover up the true intentions.

"We are showing what we can do to support international efforts to achieve peace"

I find that particularily disturbing as it pertains to more war under the guise of peace. Men and frankly, our species do not war unless to profit from the aftermath. No one willingly goes to war except the psychos which in all fairness, it sometimes seems, lead us.
Harper and Obama are just different images on the same card. the military, their contractors (weapons, ammo), and the corporations (food, basics) all financially support the entire process which in turn directs the way it goes.
They are being given orders from different entities.
highly ignorant of the repurcussions due to a short term benefit they receive.
if you've killed everyone who's against what you're doing, then yes there will peace because there's no one left to have war with. International efforts to achieve peace means no opposition for them once they've completed said objective.

"others should have the same basic rights as we have and we are obliged to defend the weaker with the small voice "

I agree, although bombing their habitat and taking their resources isn't exactly what gives them a voice.


"the few that are brave enough to stand in the face of death for their beliefs!!!"

Oh, some will die, there is no question. some will live just to made an example of.
These people are relentless and will stop at nothing to ensure any and all opposition are a non issue



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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despite what you say does have truth&validity to it, i will throw the retrospect generalization your way:

"As there are evil people in all corners of Earth, there are countless pockets of light, love, & acceptance. Its mainly dependant of your mindstate & what you truly wish to attract."

ive backpacked in many places of the world. rolling solo or with a companion. it is with the law of attraction & my volition of acceptance that i attract like minds. this is a world of duality, & you create your reality. you decide.

be well



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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Yes, it seems to be a unification of North Amercia, NAU, and this would undermine our social programs, SO ITS NOT HAPPENING. We have are peaceful, caring and equalizing people. And that is what true honor is about.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by gabby2011

Originally posted by Ben81
Thats Steven Harper regime
and we already know that .. nothing new

put back Jean Chretien


one quote i like in the video

JEAN CHRETIEN
CAN I CALL YOU STEVEN W BUSH


Blaming it all on Steven Harper is ridiculous..wouldn't matter who was in the office of prime minister, they would be serving the agenda of the ptb, whether they were aware of it or not.


Harper is 100% controlled puppet
Obama is 100% controlled puppet

but if Chretien for Canada
and Kennedy for the USA
were in place now .. im sure different decisions/policies would have been made

now i agree it is so different ... so much worst
canadians tax payers paid a lot for afghanistan
just imagine now how the USA paid

so its not Canada only who changed .. many regime are just 100% controlled puppet
UK & France are the same to
edit on 6/24/2011 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 12:02 PM
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You are so right! Some of us are aware how corrupt we are, and how we are hypocrites for trying to enforce our old fashioned reputation, but most Canadians and the rest of the world still see us as "the peaceful neighbors up North". I have known for a while that we are just as guilty as all the other war mongering nations, but it still irritates me how blatant things have become lately. At least they used take us out for dinner before we got screwed, now our government does with a bold faced lie that is a half truth. I am a strong opponent of Stephen Harper, but the other poster was right by saying we will be ran by TPTB that no matter who we have in office. It has always been that way. I kind of liked our reputation that we used to boast about, now it seems we are just another corrupt war mongering country. The sad thing is that a large part of our nation supports these actions in a blind manner that is very ignorant. I wonder if Chretien's stance against the Iraq invasion was just a publicity stunt, knowing that our future leaders already had an opposite agenda. Either way, star and flag OP good post.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by yourmaker

Originally posted by Fox Molder
LOL..You write this as it was news and cover ups....Have you been sleeping since 2001 ??? Canada will do all it can to support freedom, it's about time we stop talking and start acting. After sop many years of talking the Canadian mouth has run dry and the international ears deaf !! We are showing what we can do to support international efforts to achieve peace in regions that have been at war for millenniums. Democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and association....Those things we all take for granted, others should have the same basic rights as we have and we are obliged to defend the weaker with the small voice as for that voice is the voice of the few that are brave enough to stand in the face of death for their beliefs!!!


I'm sorry but I harshly disagree. All we've done is bring a new style of war to that area and as you so eloquently placed it, they have been at war for millenium, so what makes you think we are acheiving "peace" when all we've done is placed more war ontop of it to cover up the true intentions.

"We are showing what we can do to support international efforts to achieve peace"

I find that particularily disturbing as it pertains to more war under the guise of peace. Men and frankly, our species do not war unless to profit from the aftermath. No one willingly goes to war except the psychos which in all fairness, it sometimes seems, lead us.
Harper and Obama are just different images on the same card. the military, their contractors (weapons, ammo), and the corporations (food, basics) all financially support the entire process which in turn directs the way it goes.
They are being given orders from different entities.
highly ignorant of the repurcussions due to a short term benefit they receive.
if you've killed everyone who's against what you're doing, then yes there will peace because there's no one left to have war with. International efforts to achieve peace means no opposition for them once they've completed said objective.

"others should have the same basic rights as we have and we are obliged to defend the weaker with the small voice "

I agree, although bombing their habitat and taking their resources isn't exactly what gives them a voice.


"the few that are brave enough to stand in the face of death for their beliefs!!!"

Oh, some will die, there is no question. some will live just to made an example of.
These people are relentless and will stop at nothing to ensure any and all opposition are a non issue




Thank you! I couldn't have put it better!



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by Nspekta
 


You are so right! Some of us are aware how corrupt we are, and how we are hypocrites for trying to enforce our old fashioned reputation, but most Canadians and the rest of the world still see us as "the peaceful neighbors up North". I have known for a while that we are just as guilty as all the other war mongering nations, but it still irritates me how blatant things have become lately. At least they used take us out for dinner before we got screwed, now our government does with a bold faced lie that is a half truth. I am a strong opponent of Stephen Harper, but the other poster was right by saying we will be ran by TPTB that no matter who we have in office. It has always been that way. I kind of liked our reputation that we used to boast about, now it seems we are just another corrupt war mongering country. The sad thing is that a large part of our nation supports these actions in a blind manner that is very ignorant. I wonder if Chretien's stance against the Iraq invasion was just a publicity stunt, knowing that our future leaders already had an opposite agenda. Either way, star and flag OP good post.


Thanks! It almost sickens me when i hear anything about how great Canada is on the international scene... don;t these sheeple read and look at the news? No.... Lets talk about Bieber on Letterman, Lets talk about the royal couple coming for Stampede... sick!! And i agree, it doesn't matter who it is.. Harper or Chretien, our country has been hijacked and we are just sheep to follow the UN/NWO orders.. oh and the catch is, WE ARE PAYING FOR IT! I don't know what has to change for Canadians to wake up.. or is it too late? sometimes i feel like it is



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by Nspekta

Originally posted by yourmaker

Originally posted by Fox Molder
LOL..You write this as it was news and cover ups....Have you been sleeping since 2001 ??? Canada will do all it can to support freedom, it's about time we stop talking and start acting. After sop many years of talking the Canadian mouth has run dry and the international ears deaf !! We are showing what we can do to support international efforts to achieve peace in regions that have been at war for millenniums. Democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and association....Those things we all take for granted, others should have the same basic rights as we have and we are obliged to defend the weaker with the small voice as for that voice is the voice of the few that are brave enough to stand in the face of death for their beliefs!!!


I'm sorry but I harshly disagree. All we've done is bring a new style of war to that area and as you so eloquently placed it, they have been at war for millenium, so what makes you think we are acheiving "peace" when all we've done is placed more war ontop of it to cover up the true intentions.

"We are showing what we can do to support international efforts to achieve peace"

I find that particularily disturbing as it pertains to more war under the guise of peace. Men and frankly, our species do not war unless to profit from the aftermath. No one willingly goes to war except the psychos which in all fairness, it sometimes seems, lead us.
Harper and Obama are just different images on the same card. the military, their contractors (weapons, ammo), and the corporations (food, basics) all financially support the entire process which in turn directs the way it goes.
They are being given orders from different entities.
highly ignorant of the repurcussions due to a short term benefit they receive.
if you've killed everyone who's against what you're doing, then yes there will peace because there's no one left to have war with. International efforts to achieve peace means no opposition for them once they've completed said objective.

"others should have the same basic rights as we have and we are obliged to defend the weaker with the small voice "

I agree, although bombing their habitat and taking their resources isn't exactly what gives them a voice.


"the few that are brave enough to stand in the face of death for their beliefs!!!"

Oh, some will die, there is no question. some will live just to made an example of.
These people are relentless and will stop at nothing to ensure any and all opposition are a non issue




Thank you! I couldn't have put it better!


I've served, I've been and I've seen both sides, the ugly and the wonderful that emerges out of the chaos and ruins, To see children having a voice, little girls going to school, women walking with their head high and fathers that can now express their political views.

You can see all you want in a war you've never fought, you can assume anything of a Government you can not understand fully and you can critique the actions when you take none aside from playing the arrogant card.

Go, serve and see then and only then will you have a true sense of it all.

Have a nice day and never forget that someone died for the words that you write and the opinion that you share so freely.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 12:16 PM
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I've served, I've been and I've seen both sides, the ugly and the wonderful that emerges out of the chaos and ruins, To see children having a voice, little girls going to school, women walking with their head high and fathers that can now express their political views.

You can see all you want in a war you've never fought, you can assume anything of a Government you can not understand fully and you can critique the actions when you take none aside from playing the arrogant card.

Go, serve and see then and only then will you have a true sense of it all.

Have a nice day and never forget that someone died for the words that you write and the opinion that you share so freely.



What about the little girls who's parents cant affords to send them to school here in Canada? What about the poverty and social unrest here in Canada? IF these wars were for actually humanitarian needs then maybe i could agree with you. Infact, I was actually NOT against afghanistan... Although really it is a land/oil grab, but the fact that we created some freedom for Women and children over there is great.. its the lying and BS of these other conflicts.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 12:17 PM
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My hometown thrived during the cold war as it was the second largest nickel mine in the free world, Canadian nickel was feeding the massive cold war machine that included the space race and the war in Vietnam and the largest consumer of this nickel was the US Navy. I knew that, many in my hometown knew that, it was cold fact. The Western sphere has benefitted from this country, no other western country has the expendable resources to feed the war machines and has the advantage of seperation from the old world.

Canada does and has always profitted from war, it's not wrong to make money afterall, at least that's the capitalist/western christian obligation that Canada is a part of. This attitude that we are peace loving was fueled by the liberal media and we all bought it.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by Fox Molder

Originally posted by Nspekta

Originally posted by yourmaker

Originally posted by Fox Molder
LOL..You write this as it was news and cover ups....Have you been sleeping since 2001 ??? Canada will do all it can to support freedom, it's about time we stop talking and start acting. After sop many years of talking the Canadian mouth has run dry and the international ears deaf !! We are showing what we can do to support international efforts to achieve peace in regions that have been at war for millenniums. Democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and association....Those things we all take for granted, others should have the same basic rights as we have and we are obliged to defend the weaker with the small voice as for that voice is the voice of the few that are brave enough to stand in the face of death for their beliefs!!!


I'm sorry but I harshly disagree. All we've done is bring a new style of war to that area and as you so eloquently placed it, they have been at war for millenium, so what makes you think we are acheiving "peace" when all we've done is placed more war ontop of it to cover up the true intentions.

"We are showing what we can do to support international efforts to achieve peace"

I find that particularily disturbing as it pertains to more war under the guise of peace. Men and frankly, our species do not war unless to profit from the aftermath. No one willingly goes to war except the psychos which in all fairness, it sometimes seems, lead us.
Harper and Obama are just different images on the same card. the military, their contractors (weapons, ammo), and the corporations (food, basics) all financially support the entire process which in turn directs the way it goes.
They are being given orders from different entities.
highly ignorant of the repurcussions due to a short term benefit they receive.
if you've killed everyone who's against what you're doing, then yes there will peace because there's no one left to have war with. International efforts to achieve peace means no opposition for them once they've completed said objective.

"others should have the same basic rights as we have and we are obliged to defend the weaker with the small voice "

I agree, although bombing their habitat and taking their resources isn't exactly what gives them a voice.


"the few that are brave enough to stand in the face of death for their beliefs!!!"

Oh, some will die, there is no question. some will live just to made an example of.
These people are relentless and will stop at nothing to ensure any and all opposition are a non issue




Thank you! I couldn't have put it better!


I've served, I've been and I've seen both sides, the ugly and the wonderful that emerges out of the chaos and ruins, To see children having a voice, little girls going to school, women walking with their head high and fathers that can now express their political views.

You can see all you want in a war you've never fought, you can assume anything of a Government you can not understand fully and you can critique the actions when you take none aside from playing the arrogant card.

Go, serve and see then and only then will you have a true sense of it all.

Have a nice day and never forget that someone died for the words that you write and the opinion that you share so freely.



Trust me, I know what you're saying. the freedom we experience was earned by our blood (my grandpa was Sgt Major of the Seaforth Highlanders in ww2 and korea)
but for them, it's temporary. our nation's intentions are not as nice as the feelings we wish upon them.

"playing the arrogant card."
if I came off arrogant then I guess I failed in attempting to place some light on the subject.
We are no better then "them" when we drop our bombs on their country then when they suicide bomb ours.
coincidentally "them" is just a way of secluding them and a dehumanization of their cultures when in reality we are the same, we all breathe and feel.

"Go, serve and see then and only then will you have a true sense of it all."

why? so I can feel the same confusion and chaos and bring myself into the death pit like so many before?
I will not fight unless for just cause. While the temporary good comes from this war, little girls able to get an education and have a voice, that is hardly the main reason we are there, but I wish it was..

"someone died for the words that you write and the opinion that you share so freely."

so I better use my ability while I can, no?



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by gabby2011

Originally posted by Ben81
Thats Steven Harper regime
and we already know that .. nothing new

put back Jean Chretien


one quote i like in the video

JEAN CHRETIEN
CAN I CALL YOU STEVEN W BUSH


Blaming it all on Steven Harper is ridiculous..wouldn't matter who was in the office of prime minister, they would be serving the agenda of the ptb, whether they were aware of it or not.


Harper is 100% controlled puppet
Obama is 100% controlled puppet

but if Chretien for Canada
and Kennedy for the USA
were in place now .. im sure different decisions/policies would have been made

now i agree it is so different ... so much worst
canadians tax payers paid a lot for afghanistan
just imagine now how the USA paid

so its not Canada only who changed .. many regime are just 100% controlled puppet
UK & France are the same to
edit on 6/24/2011 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)


First off, our politics have been so entrenched by corporatization and/or a blood thirsty monarchy for so long it's ridiculous. It wouldn't matter what shill was running the country, Cretien was an asshat just like the rest of them. Any attempt to change the status quo or agenda is met with violence, Kennedy being assassinated is a good example. The only difference between say 20 years ago and now is the puppets strings are visible, the PTB have come out of the virtual "closet" as they probably consider their plan close to complete and unstoppable.

That being said, Canada has been involved in offensive military actions, weapons deals, embargo breaking and covert operations since the mid 80's, that I am aware of and/or was involved in, in both Africa and Europe (I, or people I know weren't in the middle east). The "brand" version of Canadian troops WAS as peace keepers, this has been changing over the years as the "advertising" breaks down due to an increase in public awareness of our roles in "helping" bring "democracy" to the masses by supplanting imported US/EU driven war in place of regional autonomy and self-determination. Libya is a good example, there the EU/France drives the war for corporate profit and uses the UN and NATO as its delivery vehicle. The head of NATO running this take-over of Libyan resources (water and oil) is a Canadian. Go figure huh?

I have never really understood how one can obtain peace by importing the killing of millions of innocent people, but I guess it's not meant to be understood. It's only supposed to be done and the collective mass is just supposed to listen to the talking heads spouting propaganda through the media and our @ssclown puppet politicians. By our collective inaction we are condoning at least and promoting at worst the behavior of our politicians in accepting these roles in wars controlled by others.

IMHO, Harper is a vile piece of excrement that seriously needs to be taken to task. He has promoted the highest level of disenfranchisement in the Canadian population of any previous "second in command" @ssclown prime minister and it is going to get much much worse. Of course, consider his hiring practices just for a start, Russell Williams his pilot was the serial rapist-killer in the Belleville/Trenton area (he was CO of Trenton AFB). Williams went to university with and was close friends with Paul Bernardo and they have been linked to rape, degradation and it looks like murder contests. How does a PM miss this kind of info and behavior? It must be intentional on Harper's part, because CSIS has a file on me and my involvement with military overseas doing legitimate and legal "work." CSIS can't even get it right in their own backyard?

One last thing, I don't want to hear any more crap about a couple of inbred mutant "royals" visiting Canadakastan, do you? Sure, come here have a vacation be like everybody else, they aren't important, they haven't done anything to make them important. This famous for the sake of being famous is getting old and tired fast.

Cheers - Dave
edit on 6/24.2011 by bobs_uruncle because: comma wrong place



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 12:46 PM
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I don't know what has to change for Canadians to wake up.. or is it too late? sometimes i feel like it is


Great questions. I also have thought about what it would take to change. Then I realize we were probably doomed from the get go. Even if everyone woke up and put in some valid effort into the "change" movement TPTB would just orchestrate an even worse economic crisis or war to keep us in check. I am glad that there are citizens such as you and I who are at least aware of what is probably going on. Anyways take care and keep up the good work. More Canadians need to wake up and smell the maple syrup.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 01:04 PM
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Have a nice day and never forget that someone died for the words that you write and the opinion that you share so freely.


really sick of hearing that line... there may have been many who died thinking they were fighting for freedom, but war is mostly about the agendas and greed of a handful, and they have learned the manipulation tactics to fool the rest into doing there dirty work, as well as paying for it.
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