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Religion 10 Biblical Facts That Everyone Gets Wrong, A Must Read!

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posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 06:13 AM
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MY PERSONAL COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC AND/OR INFORMATION I FOUND: "A few interesting facts I RANDOMLY FOUND on the net, I thought a lot of people on here would enjoy reading. Whist I have not personally believed in anything Christian or religious for that matter since I was 9 or 10, It really changes the way you think religious education if you were raised being read the King James version of the bible...and TOLD to believe it.
I would enjoy watching a Christian process this into their thinking paradigm."
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And a google search of topic for everyone who wants multiple sources...

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#10 Adam and Eve Contrary to popular belief, Adam and Eve were expelled from Eden not because they ate the forbidden fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but in order to prevent them from eating from the tree of life (both forbidden trees are in Genesis 2:9) which would have made them eternal. God doesn’t like competition! Here is the verse (Genesis 3:22-23): “And he said: Behold Adam is become as one of us, knowing good and evil: now, therefore, lest perhaps he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever. [23] And the Lord God sent him out of the paradise of pleasure, to till the earth from which he was taken.”

#9 Jonah and the Whale We all know the tale of Jonah and the whale… but how well do we know it? Well enough to know that he wasn’t eaten by a whale? It was no mammal that ate Jonah – it was a huge fish – though its type is not mentioned. Of course, I am presuming that everyone reading this list knows that a whale is not a fish.

#8 Samson and Delilah Samson and Delilah is a famous story from the Old Testament which ends rather badly, as Samson’s long hair is cut short to destroy his strength. The common misconception is that Delilah was the one to give him the chop – a kind of ancient bobbit if you will. But in fact, it was Delilah’s servant who did it.

#7 Rapture The “Rapture” is not in the Bible! Despite being believed by a large number of protestants (many of whom also believe that only that which is in the Bible can be true) it was actually invented in the 1600s by one Cotton Mather – otherwise famous for murdering women by strangling them to death (by hanging) in the Salem witch trials. The term in the Bible commonly mistranslated to the word “rapture” actually comes from the Greek ἁρπάζω (harpazo) which actually means “caught up” or “taken away” and it refers to one person only (Philip).

#6 Three Wise Men There weren’t three and they didn’t visit Jesus in a manger. The Bible gives neither the number of men (but does the number of gifts as three, which is probably where this misconception stems from). Additionally, Herod demanded the death of all boys under two, making it probable that Christ had been born up to two years prior. Also, the wise men visited Jesus when he lived in a house according to the Biblical account in Matthew 2:11.

#5 Get Rich Quick The Bible does not condemn drinking alcohol (remember that Jesus’ first public miracle was turning water into wine at a wedding party), or gambling and betting. The closest it comes to the latter is to recommend against get rich quick schemes (Ecclesiastes 5:10) and loving money excessively. Be sure to remember that next time you are sipping your wine at the local casino. Addendum: “The Bible does NOT condemn the drinking of alcohol – that misconception is a holdover from Calvinistic and Purtanical Prtotestantism – which worked its way into Methodism etc; What the Bible DOES say is “Be not DRUNK of the fruit of the vine” – at the same time many gainsayers will claim that the water was turned into grape juice – but the original Gospels clearly use a word which translates from the original Greek as WINE a “fermented grape beverage”. [addendum courtesy of carra 23]. Traditionally drunk means “falling down drunk” – in other words, the loss of the will to control oneself.

#4 Help “God helps those who help themselves” – a wise and good quote that everyone knows is from the Bible. But, in fact, it isn’t. It was a man, not a god who coined the well known (and overused) proverb. It was Benjamin Franklin in his Poor Richard’s almanac.

#3 Brother’s Keeper Another quote we all know from the Bible is “Am I my brother’s keeper?” Now ask yourself – do you know what God’s answer was to this question? You don’t – no one does because the Bible doesn’t tell us what He replied. If God were to have answered, we can presume it would have been in the affirmative if all of the other commands to look after our brothers in the New Testament are taken into consideration.

#2 Christmas Travel The Virgin Mary is not described in the Bible as having travelled to Bethlehem on a donkey. No mention is made at all in the gospels of the mode of transport used in the journey. The first mention of her riding a donkey comes from the non-Biblical Protoevangelium of James which you can read here. It was written around 150AD and is also one of the oldest works to describe Mary as a virgin both before and after the birth of Christ. The exact quote from the Protoevangelium is “And he [Joseph] saddled the ass, and set her upon it;”
#1 Horned Moses This has been mentioned in passing in comments on previous lists but it definitely warrants a mention here. Unlike most of the misconceptions here which deal specifically with what the Bible says or doesn’t say, this one is a misconception about the translation of part of it. The Old Testament refers to Moses as having horns on his head after he went up the mountain to see God. This prompted Michaelangelo to sculpt him with the horns. Many people believe that this was due to a mistranslation of the description of Moses but, in fact, it isn’t. Moses really is described as being horned. And the reason for this? In Old Testament times, a person who was believed to have seen or been touched by God was described as having horns (or rays of light) coming from their head. It was an ancient symbol much like today’s gloriole.

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posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 06:23 AM
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Originally posted by Griffo515

“God helps those who help themselves” – a wise and good quote that everyone knows is from the Bible. But, in fact, it isn’t. It was a man, not a god who coined the well known (and overused) proverb. It was Benjamin Franklin in his Poor Richard’s almanac.

This also applies to each and every other word, every sentence, every paragraph, and on every page of the aforementioned book.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 06:23 AM
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A.) Where are your sources?

B.) Did you just copy and paste what someone else wrote? Need to use the quote tags!

C.) I think this is where you got this from Source



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 06:30 AM
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Some good Biblical facts there, some of which I admit, got wrong. But not all of them, so the title is wrong.



Contrary to popular belief, Adam and Eve were expelled from Eden not because they ate the forbidden fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but in order to prevent them from eating from the tree of life (both forbidden trees are in Genesis 2:9) which would have made them eternal. God doesn’t like competition!


The funny thing is that Genesis 2:9 is about God creating the two trees, so much for God not liking competition.

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Samson and Delilah is a famous story from the Old Testament which ends rather badly, as Samson’s long hair is cut short to destroy his strength. The common misconception is that Delilah was the one to give him the chop – a kind of ancient bobbit if you will. But in fact, it was Delilah’s servant who did it.

And I thought it was his wife 'shakes head'.



There weren’t three and they didn’t visit Jesus in a manger. The Bible gives neither the number of men (but does the number of gifts as three, which is probably where this misconception stems from). Additionally, Herod demanded the death of all boys under two, making it probable that Christ had been born up to two years prior. Also, the wise men visited Jesus when he lived in a house according to the Biblical account in Matthew 2:11.


Yes indeed, I assumed it was 3.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by balon0
A.) Where are your sources?

B.) Did you just copy and paste what someone else wrote? Need to use the quote tags!

C.) I think this is where you got this from Source



Well, he did say that it was randomly from the net. But he does need quote tags. Thanks for the link.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by balon0
A.) Where are your sources?

B.) Did you just copy and paste what someone else wrote? Need to use the quote tags!

C.) I think this is where you got this from Source



A) It has multiple sources...you found one, as your simple Google search has proven. So why ask me?

B) Yes, but I never claimed it was my own, Read what I said firstly in the OP..."I randomly found on the net"

C) Refer to (A).

Thank you for your contributing input wanna-be ATS MOD.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 06:35 AM
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two remarks, just two

1. the contradiction-of-the-day price goes to you, OP, for mentioning "biblical" and "fact" in the same sentence.

2. are you a thief? Why didn't you refer to your source. another comment included a link to that source and i'ts quite clear you just stole the data on that page.

i was about to flag you for the carefully drafted OP, until i noticed you stole it.

that's not a nice thing to do. Is there a biblical fact on stealing, maybe even a fact we got wrong?



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 06:40 AM
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Stealing content has nothing to do with wanting to be a mod. It's just well a little thing called, copyright infringement. And disrespectful to the original author.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by NeverSleepingEyes
two remarks, just two

1. the contradiction-of-the-day price goes to you, OP, for mentioning "biblical" and "fact" in the same sentence.

2. are you a thief? Why didn't you refer to your source. another comment included a link to that source and i'ts quite clear you just stole the data on that page.

i was about to flag you for the carefully drafted OP, until i noticed you stole it.

that's not a nice thing to do. Is there a biblical fact on stealing, maybe even a fact we got wrong?


To make everyone who didnt read what I said to begin with....Ill also include a source in the OP if your too lazy to google the thread title and find out where it came from, It has literally Hundreds of sources. But I noticed ATS did not. last time I share something interesting on here...



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 06:48 AM
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Originally posted by Griffo515

Originally posted by NeverSleepingEyes
two remarks, just two

1. the contradiction-of-the-day price goes to you, OP, for mentioning "biblical" and "fact" in the same sentence.

2. are you a thief? Why didn't you refer to your source. another comment included a link to that source and i'ts quite clear you just stole the data on that page.

i was about to flag you for the carefully drafted OP, until i noticed you stole it.

that's not a nice thing to do. Is there a biblical fact on stealing, maybe even a fact we got wrong?


To make everyone who didnt read what I said to begin with....Ill also include a source in the OP if your too lazy to google the thread title and find out where it came from, It has literally Hundreds of sources. But I noticed ATS did not. last time I share something interesting on here...


well, obviously your opening statement (stuff i found on the web.... gives the impression you did actually collect information from different places) is NOT true as well, as the sequence and the content of your OP is identical to ONE source. You just took it. Why didn't you simply add the name of the source?

and hey, do you really suggest the burden of checking sources is on us? we don't have to google, you have to do a better job.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by NeverSleepingEyes
well, obviously your opening statement (stuff i found on the web.... gives the impression you did actually collect information from different places) is NOT true as well, as the sequence and the content of your OP is identical to ONE source. You just took it. Why didn't you simply add the name of the source?

and hey, do you really suggest the burden of checking sources is on us? we don't have to google, you have to do a better job.


Dude, I fixed it all up...stop trolling, All I wanted to do was share something interesting with unassumingly like-minded people. Sorry for being wrong.
Now can we get back to the topic and/or information which is NOT (READ THAT?? 'NOT") my own research, and discuss it?
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posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 07:29 AM
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Whoa, the horned Moses thing is extremely interesting. This reminds me of the Baphomet symbol, the goat head with the horns and torch on top of the head. Perhaps they are related in some way. I will have to look more into this



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 07:41 AM
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blimy how many want to be mod's in here today. give the op a break you sad little people.

Good thread op, interesting stuff even I do think the bible is a load of tosh.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by mnmcandiez
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Stealing content has nothing to do with wanting to be a mod. It's just well a little thing called, copyright infringement. And disrespectful to the original author.


right on!

ATS gives the tools it takes to make a difference between stuff one creates and stuff one borrows from someone else.
If, for reasons I can appreciate, it's too hard to use these tools, honesty suggests that one simply include the source (the single source in this case, contrary to the initial claim) in the text. Most of us can cut & paste an URL.

This, dear people, has nothing to do with wanting to be a MOD, this is just a call for intellectual honesty. Sorry if one can't make the difference



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by Griffo515

if your too lazy to google the thread title

and find out where it came from,


T&C

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posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 08:09 AM
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Are you serious? more trolling? Its all sorted, this you would know if you read the whole thread...Can we PLEASE get on with the topic at hand?



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by Griffo515

Originally posted by NeverSleepingEyes
well, obviously your opening statement (stuff i found on the web.... gives the impression you did actually collect information from different places) is NOT true as well, as the sequence and the content of your OP is identical to ONE source. You just took it. Why didn't you simply add the name of the source?

and hey, do you really suggest the burden of checking sources is on us? we don't have to google, you have to do a better job.


Dude, I fixed it all up...stop trolling, All I wanted to do was share something interesting with unassumingly like-minded people. Sorry for being wrong.
Now can we get back to the topic and/or information which is NOT (READ THAT?? 'NOT") my own research, and discuss it?
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"Dude"? I don't feel addressed.
"Trolling"? You call using rather friendly ways to point you at your obvious violations of both ATS T&C and rules of intellectual honesty "trolling"? Good to know.

Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to reply with a statement that acknowledged the critique (and communicate about it instead of just changing the OP).

I think that such an approach would have benefitted your FAIR request to deal with the content of your OP.
From my first reply it should have been clear that i will not enter that debate, as i don't acknowledge these stories to be factual, in the first place. At best, the differences in the stories are of relevance for those who like to study the evolution of folk stories or the fraud that is being called "bible". This however is nothing but my personal appreciation and I would not mind seeing this position rejected.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 10:31 AM
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Thanks for the list OP, I wasn’t aware of the Moses one

But this may be why he has horns:


The Age of Taurus: 4300 BC and ended in ca. 2150 BC.
The Age of Aries: began in ca. 2150 BC and ended in ca. 1 AD.


from:
en.wikipedia.org...

Aries the ram (with horns):
2.bp.blogspot.com...

Moses (with horns):
www.mywaysalways.com...

www.mywaysalways.com...

www.mywaysalways.com...



Rabbinical Judaism calculated a lifespan of Moses corresponding to 1391–1271 BCE

en.wikipedia.org...

so Moses might be an avatar for the age of Aries


I might have one for the list
Christians say the talking snake was satan - but the bible says:


Genesis 3.1 Now the serpent was more subtle than >any beast of the field< which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?


bible.cc...
here are bunch of other translations but according to the bible, the talking snake was just that, a very smart talking snake

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posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by Griffo515
Are you serious? more trolling? Its all sorted, this you would know if you read the whole thread...Can we PLEASE get on with the topic at hand?

I did read the whole thread. There's not much to it. Only takes a minute. I was simply pointing out how ignorant and arrogant this ↓↓↓ statement of yours is.


if your too lazy to google the thread title

You attempted to take the blame off of yourself, by pointing fingers at others. That is just not something that I agree with. You could have handled it differently, by admitting being wrong, but you chose not to.


[color=CFECEC]Noobs, such as yourself, sometimes need to be told that the proper method would be to use the 'EX' tags, and not the 'Quote' tags.

Also, a noob may not know that copying 100% of an article, is a little more than copying 10%. Just trying to help out the noobs.

Oh wait. 2007? 4 years? hmm

You should know this by now.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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The “Rapture” is not in the Bible! Despite being believed by a large number of protestants (many of whom also believe that only that which is in the Bible can be true) it was actually invented in the 1600s by one Cotton Mather – otherwise famous for murdering women by strangling them to death (by hanging) in the Salem witch trials. The term in the Bible commonly mistranslated to the word “rapture” actually comes from the Greek ἁρπάζω (harpazo) which actually means “caught up” or “taken away” and it refers to one person only (Philip).



It's in the Latin Bible that preceded the English ones. And I can reference numerous statements from Christian preachers and authors prior to the 1,600s who not just reference the rapture, but also a pre-tribulational one. This one is in error. Secondly, there were more than just Phillip who was "caught up". Elijah, Enoch, and John in Revelation 4:1. The Septuagint (LXX) was compiled 300 years before Christ and uses "Harpazo" to describe these other historical raptures.

One doesn't even need scripture to know there will be a rapture of believers when Christ returns to resurrect the saints. There will be people on Earth and alive at that point.



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