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posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 09:57 AM
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Wrong...if Ron Paul does not get nominated...I will become an overnight Obama supporter. And that is the trade-off my dear conservatives.




posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 10:01 AM
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reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 


I stopped trying to reason with them, but yes, I have posted that info myself several times, I am not sure why some keep twisting the truth and ignoring the facts.

Unless they get paid,






posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by laiguana
Wrong...if Ron Paul does not get nominated...I will become an overnight Obama supporter. And that is the trade-off my dear conservatives.


Isn't that kinda like cutting off your nose to spite your own face?

Walks away, buries head back in the sand.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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Barry HAS done something.

he's continued the BS from the last several bad presidents (and company)....and made it worse


I'm telling yall right now though.

Pray Rick Perry doesnt get in the WH. That sucker is bad news. He was about to mandate gardisil jabs for all young girls. We here in Texas told him "come try it!".

They backed off.

Had they not, there WOULD have been lead flying!
edit on 25/6/11 by felonius because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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I am silent because there is no arguing with the detractors. As I am sure has been said before, Obama could be the second coming of Christ and you on the right would still hate him. Tell me, why should I argue with someone whose whole position is irrational and based on GOTEA talking points, what ifs and supposition. And anyone who voted for him that is now surprised by what he has done, clearly didn't listen to a word the man said during the campaign. I did, and I have been watching this whole time, and I will vote for him again. And the only thing that is readily apparent is that the GOP would cut off their nose just to spite their face. It's hard to argue that you were cut out of the process, I am talking about health care negotiations and the current debt limit debate, when you take your self out of the negotiations or say something to the effect of You will give us A, B and C, but we will not give you D, E or F. I know I am just a product of the liberal/socialistic public school system, but I have yet to find anyone that can argue against the fact this country was founded on compromise, so to not compromise, so that everyone gets a little something, is pretty unAmerican in my book.
But who knows, you will probably say I am part of the NWO now, ignorant and blind to how Obama is destroying America or some other nonsense that is utter BS. But I expect that from people who vote GOTEA, which is why I don't bother arguing.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by DarkKnight76
I am silent because there is no arguing with the detractors. As I am sure has been said before, Obama could be the second coming of Christ and you on the right would still hate him. Tell me, why should I argue with someone whose whole position is irrational and based on GOTEA talking points, what ifs and supposition. And anyone who voted for him that is now surprised by what he has done, clearly didn't listen to a word the man said during the campaign. I did, and I have been watching this whole time, and I will vote for him again. And the only thing that is readily apparent is that the GOP would cut off their nose just to spite their face. It's hard to argue that you were cut out of the process, I am talking about health care negotiations and the current debt limit debate, when you take your self out of the negotiations or say something to the effect of You will give us A, B and C, but we will not give you D, E or F. I know I am just a product of the liberal/socialistic public school system, but I have yet to find anyone that can argue against the fact this country was founded on compromise, so to not compromise, so that everyone gets a little something, is pretty unAmerican in my book.
But who knows, you will probably say I am part of the NWO now, ignorant and blind to how Obama is destroying America or some other nonsense that is utter BS. But I expect that from people who vote GOTEA, which is why I don't bother arguing.


"DITTO" to your post. At this point, I'm pretty much convinced that any attempt to have a legitimate debate with right wing conservatives regarding political issues, social issues, economic issues and/or moral issues is nothing more than an exercise in futility. The hypocrisy demonstrated by these people on a daily basis, both in their rhetoric as well as their actions, is beyond laughable and at this point the only thing I have left to offer them is pity.

To those who think that Obama is a one term president, all I can say is; "Let's talk on Nov. 21, 2012."



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
i hate to burst peoples bubbles here but outsourcing did not lead to the housing crisis.

the creation of fanny and freddy and dodds and franks over manipluation and the over manipulation of guaranteed government mortgages led to that bubble bursting.

when you get down to the bones of any crisis in this country or the world you can bet your us government is the instigator and creator and what is their solutions?

create more government control.

meh



With the housing in turmoil the economy is having a harder time recovering.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - The Thelma and Louise of the U.S. economy.
Those 2 companies drove us right off a cliff.

The Obama supporters have become silent because James Carville was right.
- It's the economy stupid. -




posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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Obama will probably resign February 2012.
With the unemployment rate above 9% it's over.
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Your last hope is Hillary riding in on a great white horse. " I have a new plan."



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 11:09 AM
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Obama is still better than all the candidates I saw at the GOP debates, with the exception of Ron Paul. Now...if I want real, dynamic, and meaningful change...that kind of change will come with someone like Ron Paul. All the other Republican candidates still adhere to the Bush doctrine (so does Obama to some extent), but in essence...they would be no different.
And because I'm socially liberal...Obama is still the better option...the lesser evil, so to speak. Going on how Ron Paul is disregarded and quarantined by the GOP and MSM...It seems that Obama may likely get a vote from me.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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Dark Knight? You don't really believe what you wrote do you? You sound intelligent by the way you wrote your postion.
Unlike me.

I can't stay focused long enough to NOT drift from a topic.
Thank God they didn't have Ritalin when I was a kid. I would have been the poster child for that crap.
See? There I go...

Why does the President and Congress NOT send their kids to Public Schools?
www.outsidethebeltway.com...

I'm really confused. Shouldn't they be the role models for the rest of us? If the system is not good enough for THEIR kids,why should it be good enough for us commoners? Can't they fix it?

Someone should quote all the politicans pre office campaign speaches,and then their fricking attitudes on film AFTER we elect them. They're all arrogant nose snubbing wannabe aristocraps after election.

Unfortuntaly,You are correct..Obama IS doing what He said he would do..errr what the teleprompter told him to say. (And who approved of the words..he didn't write them and neither did the teleprompt writer)

I think you and I have a different interpretation of his commitment.
Some of us are concerned he will achieve his goal of Socialism for the good of the Country. A LOT of us don't want his version of America. Tea Party came out of good honest kneejerk reaction to Repubs and Demos active duty in office over the last 30years.
Tea Partiers got shanghied by republicans.. It was repubs or Demo's or die on the vine.
We're talking 500million to a BILLION dollars to run a presidential campaign? How disgusting is THAT?

You can support Obama all you want. Your choice. Earlier in this thread Beezer and I talked about what is REAL COST to the real world. In REAL FAKE dollars.

When our economy crashes,which I pray it doesn't,we will only have out elected officials to blame. Repubs will blame Dems and so forth,while THEY get a paycheck,pension,and medical for LIFE.
But not OUR medical. Or Government Employees Medical Benefits.Not good enough for THEM.

Obama made a "nobel" attempt at leveling the playing field with medical care. He didn't do his homework before he started demanding his wishes. EPIC Fail. He'll blame Republicans in New Campaign Blaze.

And? You'll buy it.

Divide.. conquer..and bet on both horses in the race. Especially when you own and run the race track.
www.opensecrets.org...
The article discusses lobbyists putting money in both campaigns to hedge their bets.

Good luck with your elected choice.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 11:30 AM
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posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by DCPatriot

Originally posted by laiguana
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 


Obama is still better than all the candidates I saw at the GOP debates, with the exception of Ron Paul. Now...if I want real, dynamic, and meaningful change...that kind of change will come with someone like Ron Paul. All the other Republican candidates still adhere to the Bush doctrine (so does Obama to some extent), but in essence...they would be no different.
And because I'm socially liberal...Obama is still the better option...the lesser evil, so to speak. Going on how Ron Paul is disregarded and quarantined by the GOP and MSM...It seems that Obama may likely get a vote from me.


I can't let this idiotic post by you go by without commenting.

WTF school did you attend? Where TF are you learning this crap?



LMAO... Star...

Nicely articulated, to the point, and fricking funny. I wish I could write better. That was classic.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 12:05 PM
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I would totally vote for Ron Paul, but nothing would get done because rather than one party constantly dragging their feet, it would be both. So I love the message, but I know that until there are at least three parties in the chambers of congress that message will be stifled. And as a member of the media, small time community journalist, I know that the networks keep him, and a potential third party, down. They would lose money and ratings after the constant back-and-forth bickering goes away and things get done. If the third party is a far right party, today's GOP will move to the center, if its far left, the dems will. If two new parties emerge, even better. I think that our representation would be better, and our all-around quality of life would be too. I'll tell you what, I miss the old Mitt Romney. Give me a fiscally-conservative, socially-liberal guy any day. To be honest, I usually vote dem nationally and rep locally. Partly because the dems are entrenched where I am at, and locally corrupt, but isn't all politics? When I lived in Wyoming it was the opposite locally, and just as corrupt. I dunno, I just think it's pointless to bicker and argue. Worrying about who killed whom. All we have to do is start getting third party candidates into the house of reps. Like I said, I don't care who it is, because it will provide balance to our political and social system. But that isn't happening anytime soon, and I think at least until the baby boomer generation is where their parents generation is at right now, will we see effective change in that regard.
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posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 12:16 PM
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Ron Paul can't win.
He is too radical. He reminds me of Ross Perot on '___'.
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Obama can't win with the unemployment rate above 9%.
Make another choice.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by DarkKnight76
 


Ron Paul can't win.
He is too radical. He reminds me of Ross Perot on '___'.


That makes as much sense as a pumpkin in a freezer.
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Obama can't win with the unemployment rate above 9%.
Make another choice.


He most certainly will win if the Republicans continue to marginalize their only serious candidate, Ron Paul, high unemployment rate or not.

You hyper-partisan social conservatives are what is killing the GOP.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 12:19 PM
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I was thinking, "What is Obama going to to to get re-elected? Even the people who voted for him want a refund." Shortly after I have this thought, OBL is reported to have been killed. AH, that's what he's going to do. ABC aired the old fake OBL confession tape while shaking their talking heads. Video aired of people dancing in the street. I think everyone woke up when they realized we'll never see the body. The whole situation made me feel we were being manipulated. That's when I joined ATS.

I had found this site shortly before. I used to hang out at a board game site and an electronic music making site. They both have a political forum. When I asked some questions and linked to videos about 911, TSHTF. I was told by members of the that they would not consider my questions nor look at my evidence becasue I had now become a Trufer. I was told I was an anti-semite and a fool to question TOS. I was called Hitler and told I no longer had any credibility. So, I looked for a site where I could ask questions about our world without being ridiculed. I found this place.

Obama had passed on bringing the troops home until now. As much as I want that madness to end, this looks like a stunt to get re-elected.

If there is a secret government, Obama looks to be their man. If the presentation fails, there's always Diebold.

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edit on 25-6-2011 by gentledissident because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 12:20 PM
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I find it interesting that people support him for the positive things he's done, yet overlook the bad.

His positive/negative balance can be compared to this:

A kitten was trapped in a tree. To save the kitten he broke into the neighbor's house, killed his dog, burned the house down (killing all inside), stole his car, ran full speed into the tree, knocking it down onto the cat's owner (killing her, a 98 year old pensioner), grabbing the cat, breaking its neck because it scratched him, held it up and yelled, "Hey look! I saved a kitten from a tree!"

Yay, Obama.

/TOA



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 12:29 PM
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I work in the legal field for a large corporation. Every single day I see the lengths that the company has to go to meet and comply with regulations, to work to not run afoul of some financial, tax, or business regulation. Amazingly, much of this runs in circles and is so complex that it defies logic, contradicts itself, and more. I've seen where the company can simply call an expense or a payment something different, just to comply with a tax code section buried deep in the 78,000 pages, and come out millions ahead. There are literally armies of tax attorneys who live their lives in the tax code to do just that.
What are we thinking? We have huge corporations that can afford to hire the attorneys and end up paying little or nothing in actual taxes while the smaller companies, often family owned, can hardly get by and end up paying the bulk of the actual taxes. These are the 'rich' that democrats are actually targeting, whether they realize it or not. It is not tax cheats nor the richest and largest corporations that 'help' write the tax code they use to avoid the taxes.
And what have we heard since Obama took office? We need more taxes on the rich. We need more regulations to keep the evil corporate world from soaking us. We need more limits on drilling our own oil, our own natural gas, our own resources. We need more limits on carbon, so shut down the coal plants. We have a serious issue with nuclear power and the risks. We can't have windfarms in my county, they'll kill the bats, or birds, or something or they are just not aesthetic.
My absolute belief is that the democrats and liberals want the USA to go bankrupt, to fall into chaos or sink into Third World status. They want to be seen as the saviours of the people and come to our 'rescue' with a communist or socialist new government, with a new constitution they get to write, and likely already have written.
Well, guess what. If it comes down to it. I will lay down my life and what little treasure I may have left and fight for the current constitution against all comers. It's not perfect, but it is a sure bet that it is better than anything a Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi or Barack Obama could possibly come up with.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by DarkKnight76
 


Ron Paul can't win.
He is too radical. He reminds me of Ross Perot on '___'.


That makes as much sense as a pumpkin in a freezer.
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Obama can't win with the unemployment rate above 9%.
Make another choice.


He most certainly will win if the Republicans continue to marginalize their only serious candidate, Ron Paul, high unemployment rate or not.

You hyper-partisan social conservatives are what is killing the GOP.


I can tell you that Mitt Romney isn't losing any sleep over the threat of Ron Paul.

Ron Paul was born in August 1935. That makes him 75 years old!
He also wants to shut down the Federal Reserve.



We want change but Ron Paul is too far out there.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 12:32 PM
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Ron Paul 2012...nuff said







 
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