ATS Was set up by Debunkers = The Greatest conspiracy of all time !!!

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posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 03:31 AM
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Reply to post by spoor
 


Does not negate what I said.

A fact is only a fact because a majority of people see it as such.

As proof, Galileo would have been put in the hoax bin.


 
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posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 03:33 AM
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Originally posted by Desolo

Originally posted by iamaperson

Originally posted by Desolo
reply to post by XXXN3O
 

UFO will get made to look like a picture of swamp gas glimmering in the light, half sunk in a puddle.


The fact is that in most cases the UFO is not a UFO, and usually someone comes up with an answer, if the answer is that it is "a picture of swamp gas glimmering in the light, half sunk in a puddle", then so it is, you can't change that.


i disagree, if it is identifiable as "Swamp gas glimmering in the light, half sunk in a puddle" its still a UFO, if you say ""oh look at my picture, its clearly a mantis reptoid shapeshifting craft from andromeda"", then yes you deserved to be dragged to earth, but if you list a UFO as a ""UFO"", and you know it wasnt a porch light or a normal plane, and you didnt create a hoax, even if 100 people says its swamp gas, they are still wrong,

even if your a minority of one, the truth is still the truth. 2+2 is always 4


I disagree, if it is identified it is no longer un-identified.

But if you didn't know it at the beginning, yes, it was not a hoax, and no it shouldn't go in the hoax bin, instead it should be moved somewhere else, maybe the "Solved" or something similar (maybe "Identified as being nothing unusual").



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 03:37 AM
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i think your a hypocrite. let me tell you why.... becuase you have just delivered with with a total yawn fest aswell.... youve taken all my point out of proportion, where did i say i didnt like the lay out, or the mods were too soft. to save yourself the time you coulda just been one of them mugs who say, if you dont like it leave. You didnt really take the points in did you. i dont actually believe the makers of ATS are debunkers,

you say your bored of seeing posts of this manner, yet you and than xxxneo wanabe still dragged your sorry ass's in here to give me an earful, and i reckon you have done it every time you've come accross a post thats slates your beloved ATS.

im just hitting out at all the people who commit the offences ive listed, it will reach a lot of people who im aiming it at, because like i said 95% of ATS members have become bitter and scummy and dont have the ability to be joyous and curtious anymore,



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 03:37 AM
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WoW, star because you actually showed me a good point that i had not really considered, yet i do not completely agree, i dont really let it effect me when i get "Duped" by a hoax, i appreciate it in a way because that person has taught me a lesson, i didnt realise i suppose that some ATS members may feel "Burned" due to a hoax, but like the guy who said that there were too many "Yes men" in the world, look out your window, go into any mainstream forum on the net, one about cars, or celebs and there you will find the people who have really been burned, people who have really been "Duped" by a false reality of how things really work and what is really important. ATS should stand out like a beacon of light, and be a stage to debunk the debunkers, not breed them !!


Ha, well I'm the same guy that made the yes men comment, actually, but I think you may have misunderstood my meaning. By 'yes men' I mean those who don't question, one way or another. What makes ATS worth visiting, for me at least, is because of the quest for truth (though it might not be presented in the politest of ways at times, I admit.)

I don't know where you stand on 9/11, for example, but if you doubt the official story then what you're doing is basically saying that someone pulled off a massive hoax (meaning an act intended to deceive or trick). If you counter the official story, then you're technically trying to debunk that implied deception.

Likewise, if you refute a claim made by someone that one of the planes was a hologram, missile, or whatnot, then you're attempting to debunk that theory. It can work both ways, you see.

As for me, I try my best to follow Socrates' "I don't know jack and never will" philosophy. Let's me have some fun entertaining possibilities without being led too far astray from wherever the truth might be.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 03:40 AM
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yh like i said before, it never really gets identified, it just gets deemed something ridiculous like the example i used, then the majority of people will say ... "You've cracked it, its clearly a bear eating a pizza" "Threads now dead"



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 03:44 AM
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fair play man, i totally see and hear your point, especially with the 9'11 example, maybe ive blown my lid because i feel like ive never had a successful or positive post on here !!! but i just wanted to knock a few of them grammar experts and trolls/online warriors back down to cyber earth !!!



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 03:48 AM
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This site is what 'you' make of it.

Its the first place I look for news, the truth, some stimulating debates and some fun.

If everyone on this site agree'd, and got along like an episode of my little pony, it would be as boring as all the other forums on the internet.

In 5 months if your still here you'll regret making this thread, because things like this dont get forgotten.

edit, it definately is the best f'n site on the internet..
accept for anything that involves porn...
edit on 24-6-2011 by Agit8dChop because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 03:53 AM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop


In 5 months if your still hear you'll regret making this thread, because things like this dont get forgotten.

edit, it definately is the best f'n site on the internet..
accept for anything that involves porn...
edit on 24-6-2011 by Agit8dChop because: (no reason given)


i doubt it tbh, i make a post on here every couple of months or so, i doubt ill get known as the guy who hates ATS,

im just using this fantastic medium to hit back at the many a mug who, slate peoples grammar, debunk posts with no actual proof to the contrary and just have little digs at people because they dont agree with them (Nor do they have a valid point of their own, If you read some of the posts in the thread, you'll see im quite willing to give credit where credits due)



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by Desolo
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yh like i said before, it never really gets identified, it just gets deemed something ridiculous like the example i used, then the majority of people will say ... "You've cracked it, its clearly a bear eating a pizza" "Threads now dead"


Just as a side question-is this what you meant in your original post?

Well, if it appears to be something by a lot of people, thats what they're of-course going to say. Its only their opinion-unless of course it is actually a bear eating the pizza.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 03:56 AM
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TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU,

my experience has been very similar, from coming to this site and being very happy for it, to experiencing it over time that it is not all its cracked up to be, i to have felt to over censorship

i once had a post removed points deducted because i posted "theres already another thread about this, " including a link to the other thread


now tell me how many times do you see other people make that exact same post in threads and they dont get the punishment esq points deduction,

that is but one example, i had another post removed just for talking about this exact same topic, i was told in pm from mod that it 'stokes flames and is not what ats wants'
sure sounds like censorship to me,

so for fear of 'stoking flames' i'll stop hear rather then report the numerous other censorship experiences ive had on this site,

its to the point now that every time i see a post with the ''off topic' banner in it, i immediately assume that post probably just hit on the truth more than they wanted, i do this only because experience has taught me its more often true then the latter


and feeling that same fear of over controlling censoring powers of ats, i feel leary just to post this! i also feel its likely this thread will be removed,

that is not openminded discussion to remove this thread, it is censorship nothing should ever be censored unless legaly required, anything else is NOT free communication/discussion



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 03:59 AM
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Originally posted by Desolo
This group of people, if they cant find anything else to call or tag you with, will then use the old "Quote" button to point out spelling or grammar mistakes to get themselves a star or two............

............"1000s (Thousands) of ponits have been deducted from you"


Sorry but you spelt points wrong



Couldnt resist!!! lol



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 04:04 AM
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WHEYYYY !!! im really happy you gave your time to post on here, i knew i wasnt the only one who was feeling a bit restricted, i hald expect this post to be deleted/closed or removed to somewhere else because we haven't really discussed a conspiracy as such,

and its good to see you've been on here quite a while, it just feels like you have to tip-toe round the mods to make a post, and create a neutral on the fence post otherwise your doomed !!! lovin your work brother/sister



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 04:04 AM
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I am not the type of people you are talking about.And most of the people on this site are like me.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 04:09 AM
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yh sort of, the debunkers who pick your picture apart never really come up with a valid debunk, unless of-course it is a bear eating pizza




edit on 24-6-2011 by Desolo because: (no reason given)


^^^This is that reptoid alien shape shifter from andromeda i was speaking of !!!
edit on 24-6-2011 by Desolo because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 04:15 AM
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Originally posted by Desolo
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WHEYYYY !!! im really happy you gave your time to post on here, i knew i wasnt the only one who was feeling a bit restricted, i hald expect this post to be deleted/closed or removed to somewhere else because we haven't really discussed a conspiracy as such, and its good to see you've been on here quite a while, it just feels like you have to tip-toe round the mods to make a post, and create a neutral on the fence post otherwise your doomed !!!

i do agree


lovin your work brother/sister
o really?
whenever i make a post on this site i feel alot like ive just dropped a dime in the middle of the ocean, no way in hell it'll ever be seen or noticed.

so count me surprised that you have implied that you may have noticed a post or two of my own in the past.


anyhow, thanks! right back at yuh
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posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 04:37 AM
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yh read your missing child post ages ago i think,

i think id rather be kicking a tennis ball into the grand canyon, than make a post and walk away after an hour or two of pure pathetic and useless debate !!!



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 04:45 AM
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i recently had a thread closed and i am NOT happy about it!!!!!!!!!!!!

If a thread is going to be closed, deleted or declared a hoax it should be put in a special forum where the COMMUNITY can vote on the validity of such actions.

Mods are humans too, therefore they err just like us!!!

Applaud this man!!



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 04:50 AM
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Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
i recently had a thread closed and i am NOT happy about it!!!!!!!!!!!!

If a thread is going to be closed, deleted or declared a hoax it should be put in a special forum where the COMMUNITY can vote on the validity of such actions.

Mods are humans too, therefore they err just like us!!!

Applaud this man!!


lol cheers bro, its horrible when the mods step in, its like they have just stolen an hour of your time, even tho is was likely to be full of abuse and Warnings anyway, or an English lesson



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 04:57 AM
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Originally posted by Desolo
reply to post by ronishia
 


i think your a hypocrite. let me tell you why.... becuase you have just delivered with with a total yawn fest aswell.... youve taken all my point out of proportion, where did i say i didnt like the lay out, or the mods were too soft. to save yourself the time you coulda just been one of them mugs who say, if you dont like it leave. You didnt really take the points in did you. i dont actually believe the makers of ATS are debunkers,


no im not a hypocrite and my post wasn't directed at you, i was directing it at everyone really, and the various complaints etc that get posted on the board. and i did read your post and took your points in as i said in there you have some pretty valid points. i will reiterate....i wasnt directing it at you but at everyone who complains about the things i listed.


you say your bored of seeing posts of this manner, yet you and than xxxneo wanabe still dragged your sorry ass's in here to give me an earful, and i reckon you have done it every time you've come accross a post thats slates your beloved ATS.


were did i give YOU an earful, i was expressing an opinion and last i checked that was aloud. you reckon i make it my mission to troll in complaints threads??
why dont you go look in my profile at what i post. if i was to post in every complaints topic made i would be here all day and night, i work 2 jobs and raise 5 kids i have enough to do.


im just hitting out at all the people who commit the offences ive listed, it will reach a lot of people who im aiming it at, because like i said 95% of ATS members have become bitter and scummy and dont have the ability to be joyous and curtious anymore,


i understand what you were getting at,and its a trend i have seen all to well over the last few months, perhaps some members of ATS are on their time of the month


and as i said above i wasn't aiming my lil ramble at you really, in hindsight posting after coming off a 4am shift aint always good
but i wasn't trying to cause offense to yourself, and hey at least i posted more than well find another board then



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 06:08 AM
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I'm just here for the fast cars, cool tunes, cold beer and hot babes.

Enjoy!





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