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The picture of the firemen standing around the alleged" molten steel" has been revealed to be a high intensity
They were peering into a hole with a high intensity light searching for human remains
The photo was faked by truthers
Look starting at 1:50 - can see fake photo vs the REAL photo. Someone cranked up the brightness on the
Question is why do you persist in lying and using fake photos?
Peter Tully, president of Tully Construction of Flushing, New York, told AFP that he saw pools of "literally molten steel" at the World Trade Center. Tully was contracted on September 11 to remove the debris from the site.
Tully called Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition, Inc. (CDI) of Phoenix, Maryland, for consultation about removing the debris. CDI calls itself "the innovator and global leader in the controlled demolition and implosion of structures."
Loizeaux, who cleaned up the bombed Federal Building in Oklahoma City, arrived on the WTC site two days later and wrote the clean-up plan for the entire operation.
AFP asked Loizeaux about the report of molten steel on the site. "Yes," he said, "hot spots of molten steel in the basements." These incredibly hot areas were found "at the bottoms of the elevator shafts of the main towers, down seven [basement] levels," Loizeaux said. The molten steel was found "three, four, and five weeks later, when the rubble was being removed," Loizeaux said. He said molten steel was also found at 7 WTC, which collapsed mysteriously in the late afternoon.
Construction steel has an extremely high melting point of about 2,800° Fahrenheit (1535° Celsius). Asked what could have caused such extreme heat, Tully said, "Think of the jet fuel."
I didn't personally see molten steel at the World Trade Center site. It was reported to me by contractors we had been working with. Molten steel was encountered primarily during excavation of debris around the South Tower when large hydraulic excavators were digging trenches 2 to 4 meters deep into the compacted/burning debris pile. There are both video tape and still photos of the molten steel being "dipped" out by the buckets of excavators. I'm not sure where you can get a copy.
Sorry I cannot provide personal confirmation.
Mark Loizeaux, President
CONTROLLED DEMOLITION, INC.
2737 Merryman's Mill Road
Phoenix, Maryland USA 21131
Dude that is one picture that's a proven fake, what about the other ones? Just because one is faked, all of them are faked
Yes and in that video that I've asked you to watch 47398520352345290837537658376584 times, they show how molten aluminum does NOT look like what was dripping out of the tower. On top of that, in the summary I posted there is a video of molten aluminum pouring. Why are you not even looking at the evidence I post? Am I just wasting my time? Because if you're not even going to look at the evidence I post, let's just end this discussion right now. I'm sick of walking you babies through it step by step since you can't take 10 minutes to look at the evidence that I spend hours compiling.
During attacks - There is, in ONE instance, a picture that shows what appears to be 'melted steel pouring' from the side of the building. It is sometimes explained that this is the thermite starting it's cut. It shows a material falling and then cooling. NIST determined this was aluminum and was coming from where the plane that struck came to a halt.
Immediately following attacks - In the days after the attacks, there were descriptions of extremely hot metal and glowing red metal. Why would this not be there? Why would the ground not be so hot it would melt shoes. 2 110 story buildings collapsed into a several story basement system(you know the WTC design, right?). It would be expected to see this and experience this based on the creation of what is a huge smelter of the WTC site.
So the question is if you know its fake then why did you use it?
Unless you are lying and attempting to deceive people ....
So you call yourself truthers yet persist in using fake "evidence"
-- Our government had knowledge prior of the attacks and knew that airplanes would be hi-jacked, but they took no measure to prevent such an event from happenning. Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer worked with a military intelligence program "Able Danger" in 2000, and they identified 4 of the hi-jackers as possible Al Qaeda members. Beginning in September 2000, three meetings set up with the FBI by him were each canceled by military lawyers. Shaffer lost his security clearance to view classified information after going public. This prior knowledge blatantly contradicts George Bush's and Condoleezza Rice's statements that nobody could have predicted terrorists to fly airplanes into those buildings.
I will go through the video once again, and point out the "statements", then point out the "evidence" and the "facts" used to back it up.
I watched the video and it does not prove anything. It is a bunch of statements with no evidence or facts to back it up
Originally posted by esdad71
reply to post by TupacShakur
You're pissed because you are realizing you are wrong. How can I be pissing you off unless you realize that maybe I am right. You can continue to post the same pictures and the same statements but that does not make it correct. If you beat someone long enough they will admit to anything and it seems that is you MO.
If you pick and choose what to discuss, it may sound better, but when you step back and look at the big picture you see the cracks.
Originally posted by thedman
reply to post by Wizayne
Again you are lying.....
Columns were cut by ironworkers using thermal lances aka burning bars to cut them during recovery/cleanup
here is picture of one being used
Here is one such ironworker cutting a column
Why do you persist in using fake photos ?
No no no dude you were the one that said that video had no evidence or facts to back it up, and I proved you wrong. You can't accept that so now you're trying to shift the discussion over to another topic. Focus on that video, because you're the one that was badmouthing it. Now point out, "one at a time", what is wrong with that video that I carefully laid out for you. Once you're done with that, then we can move onto something else. If we're just jumping from topic to topic not solving anything then we're not going to get anywhere, so debunk that video first.
I am taking it one at a time and you cannot accept it. I put up the information on Able Danger and all you can do is post funny ass pictures. It is ok. Just admit that your OP is incorrect. There is no way that the video or post presented shows it was an inside job.
Now, are you going to reply? You cannot debunk something that is incorrect to start with....