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Originally posted by dilly1
The debunkers have been quiet ,,,I guess we truthers have changed the debunkers perspective on 911. You debunkers are falling like flies. Or should i say falling like building 7.
That sounds to me like a cop out for defeat.
Sorry, but most of us realize that we could show you conclusive proof and you'd still question it.
Yeah that's totally relavent.....
YOU NEED JESUS IN YOUR LIFE!!!!
Actually his analysis that he used to back up the official story contradicted the official story. Gemini's top notch research led him to the conclusion that a Boeing 767 weighs One Hundred Million pounds.
Your explanation on how an airplane was the cause of 911 is based on what the 911 report, why? Because our beloved country produced it? So if our beloved country produce a report on a new drug for immortality will you believe its authenticity?
First, the 50,000 tons of the weight from the airplane in the middle of the floor caused both towers to collapse, not the steel, steel had nothing to do with the towers falling, so stop being stupid and learn to use the common sense god gave you....damn,there is no god for you.
I guess thats why common sense is an issue for you>any way
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Originally posted by Wizayne
Now it's your turn to learn something.
Perdue says there was an exit hole 4 floors high and at least a 1/4 of the building wide:
You conspiracy people become quite entertaining when you attempt to scramble to do damage control. You were bickering that no aircraft wreckage penetrated all the way through, and I showed you irrefutable video evidence that yes, wreckage did come out the other side...and your response? Now you're bickering over how big the hole is on the opposite side. If you're genuinely demanding that I need to to take out a ruler to determine whether the exit hole was 1/4 of the building wide, 1/8 of the building wide, or in small locations that if placed in a contiguous area would equal 1/4 of the building width, you're a idiot. The craft still penetrated all the way through and it still necessarily needed to create massive damage within the structure to be able to penetrate all the way through, which necessarily lends credibility to the Perdue study of massive internal damage regardless of whether the exit hole was twenty feet, ten feet, or eleven feet, three inches. You might as well be arguing how many toilet seats were up vs. down when the plane struck.
Seriously, this is just desperation on your part at this point.
You have no proof to back up the story you so desperately want to believe. You take other peoples words for fact (the OS), the whole time knocking down others that do the same with other's words but have different conclusions. All you have to do is admit that you have no actual power in the form of facts, you're just good at putting people down that dont agree with you.
Do I really need to explain your own conspiracy propaganda to you? For one thing, the Perdue study isn't "the OS". The 9/11 commission report doesn't mention anything about how the collapse occurred one way or the other so the Perdue study is just one study among several studies independent from each other that attempts to explain it...and it wasn't even a gov't study, it was a university study. For another, I just showed you irrefutable video proving wreckage did penetrate all the way through the structure so it's asinine to claim I have "no evidence".
The problem clearly isn't that there's no evidence backing up the fact that it was a terrorist attack. The problem is that you don't want to believe the evidence is true because it would mean your conspiracy claims are false.
I've spent five years looking into this and you have devoted NOTHING. I owe you nothing and you deserve NOTHING.
You are a little kid in a world where MEN are needed to stand up and protect the helpless.
I have said many times that the conspiracy theorists are involved in this whole thing NOT to discover the facts behind 9/11, but becuase of the outlet for abject paranoia that it brings, and their emotional attachment to this ideology is so great that any attack on their ideas is perceived as a personal attack upon themselves and they respond in kind. Hey, you can insult Bush and Rumsfeld all the live long day, and I wouldn't care in the least.
Seriously dude, if you can't even get your conspiracy claims past a nobody like me, then how do you expect to fare in any potential independent investigation you might get? Do you really think accusing the committee of being little kids for not agreeing with you isn't going to get you laughed out of the room?
You really have no credibility.
pg 31 ...much more fatal than NIST takes into account
The Perdue Study leaves no guesswork or anything left to the imagination as to what damage the impact inflicted on the structure”
Well actually it was ZERO as far as the exit hole goes. Making you the sad follower who believes the building was like butter, just because some Perdue flunkys said so. So you sit here trying to convince a non-existant crowd that "conspiracy poeple" like wizayne are mis-informed by "those damn fool conspiracy websites" and in need of help for their delusions.
pg34... If you're genuinely demanding that I need to to take out a ruler to determine whether the exit hole was 1/4 of the building wide, 1/8 of the building wide, or in small locations that if placed in a contiguous area would equal 1/4 of the building width, you're a idiot. The craft still penetrated... and lends credibility to the Perdue study of massive internal damage regardless of whether the exit hole was twenty feet, ten feet, or eleven feet, three inches.
No Sherlock Holmes, you need to explain YOUR FU**ING CONSPIRACY to us, with facts from the REAL INVESTIGATION that was supposed to take place but never did. OR, you can shut the F up if you have nothing valid to offer. I dont have to prove what happened to you, it's been proven what YOU support couldn't have happened.
“Do I really need to explain your own conspiracy propaganda to you?"
Exactly. That's the point. Even the OS can't explain how the towers fell all the way down. and Remember you said...
...the Perdue study isn't "the OS”
which translates to "we have no frigging clue how this building blew apart...maybe some college kids could help."
The FEMA report specifically said that after the initial loss of structural integrity so many things started happening and so many components were involved that it's impossible to map out what happened...
You don't have evidence of an exit hole OR evidence explaining both towers' full collapse. That hasn't changed since we started talking.
...so it's asinine to claim I have "no evidence"
Where in this post did I say such things?
Hey, you can insult Bush and Rumsfeld all the live long day…
Actually, that's the exact problem!
...The problem clearly isn't that there's no evidence backing up the fact that it was a terrorist attack.
And that is where I end my conversation with you in THIS thread. You are a nobody that has contributed nothing of value to this thread and simple put others down to cover that fact.
Seriously dude, if you can't even get your conspiracy claims past a nobody like me
Yeah nowhere in your post did you debunk the video yesterday, it was just more of your typical lunatic rants about "judas acts" and such.
I debunked the completely stupid video yesterday, why you are so Judas natured towards your country, and why is this video so important to the nature of the event?
Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by Immortalgemini527
I keep throwing that video around because it proves how the official story is impossible in several different ways, using Physics, not just common sense. If you think this video is "retarded" as you subtly put it ( ), why don't you debunk it? Don't just appeal to common sense, if I'm a "complete idiot" like you claim, then debunk the video and show just how much of an idiot I am. So far, your only contribution to this thread has been ALL CAPS INSULTS, and delusional statements of a "beloved government" when everybody knows no such thing exists in America. Debunk this video before you insult me for posting it.
I'll ask you again, debunk this video before insulting me.
(dee-buhngk) debunk: to expose as being false
Prove to me how the impossible is possible.
Yeah that's totally relavent.....
YOU NEED JESUS IN YOUR LIFE!!!!
Debunk that video, and prove how the impossible is possible. D-E-B-U-N-K T-H-E V-I-D-E-O
The thought of lava being taken from Hawaii and put inside of a bomb on an airplane has never even crossed my mind, so I don't know where you're getting the idea that I think that way. I think what you're referring to is the molten steel which was found in the rubble of all three trade centers.
Immortal, your a bonified idiot, the government had something to do with it, the lava was flown in from Hawaii, there was a bomb on all the airplanes and you my friend are brainwashed beyond reason.
As you can clearly see it takes well over the maximum temperature produced by jet fuel to melt steel, and since molten metal was seen dripping before the collapse and found in the rubble after the collapse, that means that the official story is a lie because jet fuel cannot do the damage that was done. An explosive called thermite can produce temperatures high enough to melt steel though, and evidence of it was found in samples from the steel and samples of the dust after the collapse. Two byproducts of a thermitic reaction are molten steel and white smoke, and both of these were seen coming out of the towers before the collapse, and in the rubble afterwards. Plus if you check back a few pages, there were over 33 documented witnesses who claimed to have seen this molten metal, so the evidence is staring you right in the face.