Denmark Police Propose Ban On Anonymous Internet Use

Denmark Police Propose Ban On Anonymous Internet Use

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Imagine if the police knew exactly what you do online: All the porn sites you scan secretly, the vitriolic comments you leave on blogs, the number of hours you spend playing Farmville.

In Denmark, police have recommended to Parliament that it create laws that make it impossible for citizens to surf anonymously. According to Danish-language blog Computerworld Denmark, the proposal is intended to help investigate terrorism.

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And so it begins. Insight as to what is coming next for the USA? You are already monitored if being suspected of activity, without question. Might be possible, or at least an example of what is to come for those who value being anonymous. As some of us already know, sites such as Craiglist and Google e-mail already ask for your phone number to send you a code so you can use the service noted. The ministry of Justice(Denmark-Mentioned in additional link) says they may consider, electronic signatures(possibly connected to your name, phone, address, cc, etc), for example before someone can use the internet.

This seems to be the only MSM article covering the story besides the original Danish source (additional link)? Anyone have local info., how are people reacting in Denmark, etc? Any other European insight on the story?

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Anonymous will not allow it. We shall see what happens...

reply to post by FTD Brat


Did you only read the title?

reply to post by dreamingawake


I think it would be extremely difficult to track everybody and their actions on the internet. There would have to be a HUGE database to hold all the info. Possible, yes... Practical, no...

Even then, people who want to post anonymously will find ways to do it. As of now, humans can hardly control identify theft, and people's financial lives are being ruined... so I can only imagine identity theft of internet users, and people posting as other people. Hackers will probably be taking advantage of other internet identities and pretending to be someone they are not.

I can see so many issues with this that I have a hard time believing it will ever happen.

Good luck to them.

With the advent of Tor and Freenet, they're going to need it.

This may seem really scary for all of Denmark citizens but trust me, the government will not monitor every citizen. It is just a waste of time, this law technically gives you access to anyones personal life without needing to infest a person with a virus. This law will be used on people that are seen as threats to politics or government for their personal gain.

LOL and China is still trying
to control its internet.
they dont stand a chance.
they would have to Stop ALL wifi.
and up date them all.

reply to post by AmericanEagle


Cant monitor stuff if they do not know who you are. There are ways to protect your anonymity

How come I haven't heard about this? And I am a Danish citizen?

We don't need this kind of thing.. Absolutely a waste of resources! I mean, imagine being monitored all the time? No thanks. We already have way too many cameras monitoring our every move on the streets and what have you!
And to be honest, I don't think the rest of Denmark would want our privacy invaded. I believe that we are very proud of our freedom of speech.

Let's wait and see what happens

we had this one coming, didn't we?

first of all this is nothing new. we shouldn't be surprised.
As Noam Chomsky explained in "Manufacturing Consent", the type of democracy we live in can't exist if the access to information and/or the creation of certain types of information isn't controlled.

I remember being an "expert guest" in a tv-show over here in W-Europe, where the topic "sex and the media" was being discussed. That was in 1995 or 96 (my old brain can't remember). About that time mainstream media started to pay little attention to the web, bringing fear mongering bull# stories about the dangers on the web.
My plea way back was to allow self-regulation to search for its own limits but at the same time I warned the audience that it wouldn't last... as soon as enough "consumers" entered cyberspace, commercial interests would grow too important to leave regulation to the actors in the fields.
Closing down the net makes no sense, from an economical point of view (why do you think the Big Brands of the Web were at the Bilderberg meeting?) so what is needed is to take away the margins that are left for those of us who think there are better things to do than to "like" our peers' bullsh*t... researching stuff for example.

As this leaves the risk that - as the Big Assh*le Brezinsky recently stated - more people than ever before will wake up, in a political sense, something has to be done about it.

For those, like me, who witnessed the advent of the web, there's but one thing to do: don't weep too much for the demise of the web, this is only a natural evolution.

Of course, PITA's like myself will continue, using stuff like Tor or the truly decentralized web to come. This however doesn't really bother them, as they will have what they want: a sleeping mass of consumers. These consumers will never reach for tools like Tor, as they prefer to click on thumbs.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by AmericanEagle

 

Cant monitor stuff if they do not know who you are. There are ways to protect your anonymity

that's correct, there are ways. Unfortunately these won't be used by the majority of web users as they are too hard to use for most. So the scheme will work after all.

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Denmark is not the only country.. This is happening all over Europe right now...
They are slowly implementing new ways to track our usage so that even the ip address will be linked with you as a person and every website address you visit stored in logs.

Welcome to 1984.....

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
reply to post by FTD Brat

 

Did you only read the title?

reply to post by dreamingawake

 

I think it would be extremely difficult to track everybody and their actions on the internet. There would have to be a HUGE database to hold all the info. Possible, yes... Practical, no...

Even then, people who want to post anonymously will find ways to do it. As of now, humans can hardly control identify theft, and people's financial lives are being ruined... so I can only imagine identity theft of internet users, and people posting as other people. Hackers will probably be taking advantage of other internet identities and pretending to be someone they are not.

I can see so many issues with this that I have a hard time believing it will ever happen.

edit on 24-6-2011 by gift0fpr0phecy because: (no reason given)

And this is exactly what they are trying here in Norway and the bill will most likely be passed on to us like usual. The law itself was already voted on and accepted a couple of months back, so only thing left is to implement it.
They also added a nice bit in that law that allows censorship of certain illegal topics which includes sites who offer torrents like piratebay.

Originally posted by UncoveringTheTruth
How come I haven't heard about this? And I am a Danish citizen?

We don't need this kind of thing.. Absolutely a waste of resources! I mean, imagine being monitored all the time? No thanks. We already have way too many cameras monitoring our every move on the streets and what have you!
And to be honest, I don't think the rest of Denmark would want our privacy invaded. I believe that we are very proud of our freedom of speech.

Let's wait and see what happens

And that is why such stuff gets passed behind your back. Nothing good will happen from sitting back and waiting for it to be passed or not. What you should do is write your politicians, protest and so on.
The more the people sit back and do nothing the more the state will rape you.

Originally posted by AmericanEagle
This may seem really scary for all of Denmark citizens but trust me, the government will not monitor every citizen. It is just a waste of time, this law technically gives you access to anyones personal life without needing to infest a person with a virus. This law will be used on people that are seen as threats to politics or government for their personal gain.

Yeah.. like people downloading some music, tv or discuss illegal activities like for example drugs.
It was same with the national firewall we got here and in several other western countries. They claimed this would only be used to block childporn, but instead they are now trying their best to extend it to block even discussion forums, gambling sites, torrent/p2p sites and so on.
And now that they passed the law about tracking they already admitted this will be used against small crimes, like a person who smokes a joint on a weekend or a person who downloaded a tv series.

This is probably going to just get worse and worse. Yet anonymous thrives. Orlanda FL website were just hit for retribution about prosecuting people feeding homeless people.

Originally posted by FTD Brat
Anonymous will not allow it. We shall see what happens...

More like the people of denmark wont allow it. I'll bet there is a #storm coming soon.

Man...this is something that I would have thought NK would do...what the hell is up with Denmark

Come on danes, where is that viking spirit of freedom to sail the open intersea's!

Alas, now you are reduced from powerful and fearful tribesmen and sailors to...porn and troll police.
my how the mighty fall...

That is because they are tracking everything we do, even now, EVEN HERE! Yes people we are being watched especially the people here. Time to wake up! Makes me feel like not coming here somedays.......SERIOUSLY!

I thought parliaments were supposed to pass laws they had run by the public in their manifestos. There seems to be a huge gulf developing between what the public have agreed to and what the public are having forced upon them by some lobbying group.

This knee jerk nonsence about the internet is fine as far as I am concerned if its child porn, but there is a point when government is being simply too intrusive, how long before they demand to know the sized of our nickers? I'm all for not handicapping the police but I think where a crime has been committed they have the right to investigate, but thats where the line is drawn, legistation should not be to spy on the public. Denmark is a tiny country with no immigrants only long established nationals, its crime rate is relatively low so why the spy or is it because the 'head' of Bildenburg lives there