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Originally posted by chrismicha77
I guess contrails (ice crystals) will persist and spread into clouds, instead of melting when getting into warming air.
This video is a prime example BUT the debunkers will say other wise.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
Awesome videos - all 3. I've seen that nozzle stuff here too where some huge aircraft, like a tanker, is spewing out 4 gushers like that.
Originally posted by adeclerk
Originally posted by chrismicha77
I guess contrails (ice crystals) will persist and spread into clouds, instead of melting when getting into warming air.
This video is a prime example BUT the debunkers will say other wise.
Do you know what a cloud is made of? Definition from wiki: A cloud is a visible mass of water droplets or frozen ice crystals suspended in the atmosphere above the surface of the Earth or another planetary body.
Originally posted by eXia7
One thing that always keeps me curious is, when they set patterns... or rows.. then these "contrails" form into dingy looking clouds.. almost like a film.. some pretty dirty looking clouds.. I've seen on clear days when we get a light cloud film its clear.. then when I see the trails, it's usually a dingy cloud.. my city isn't huge, so I doubt it's major air pollution..
Like I said, I'm still pretty 50/50 on the matter.edit on 6/23/2011 by eXia7 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by firepilot
Originally posted by luxordelphi
Awesome videos - all 3. I've seen that nozzle stuff here too where some huge aircraft, like a tanker, is spewing out 4 gushers like that.
Except that the KC-10 video, is not "chemtrailing", but the chemtrailers fall for it, over and over and over and over.
Those are not nozzles, those are flap hinge fairings. The chemtrail hoax promoters over at "TankerEnemy" have lied to you all in that video.
Originally posted by chrismicha77
Originally posted by adeclerk
Originally posted by chrismicha77
I guess contrails (ice crystals) will persist and spread into clouds, instead of melting when getting into warming air.
This video is a prime example BUT the debunkers will say other wise.
Do you know what a cloud is made of? Definition from wiki: A cloud is a visible mass of water droplets or frozen ice crystals suspended in the atmosphere above the surface of the Earth or another planetary body.
Well there ya are again hello. Glad these threads draw so much attention from you. Believe it or not I know what the definition of a cloud is.
Definition from wiki: A cloud is a visible mass of water droplets OR frozen ice crystals suspended in the atmosphere above the surface of the Earth or another planetary body.
Or is the key word here.
edit on 23-6-2011 by chrismicha77 because: (no reason given)edit on 23-6-2011 by chrismicha77 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by luxordelphi
Originally posted by firepilot
Originally posted by luxordelphi
Awesome videos - all 3. I've seen that nozzle stuff here too where some huge aircraft, like a tanker, is spewing out 4 gushers like that.
Except that the KC-10 video, is not "chemtrailing", but the chemtrailers fall for it, over and over and over and over.
Those are not nozzles, those are flap hinge fairings. The chemtrail hoax promoters over at "TankerEnemy" have lied to you all in that video.
I see your point...would not be good for anything to be coming out of rotator cups and would probably negate their usefullness, however, the spewing is coming from somewhere in that general area or just toward the body slightly from that area.
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by Buford2
That is invariably because people are zooming in, then further magnifying the video. Planes far away only take up a few pixels - and when further magnified the pixels are just blobs.
You can get perfectly good, detailed pictures of planes from over 200km away if you use the right gear - eg see the pictures this guy has taken in Belgium.
www.skystef.be...
But it takes the right gear - saying planes are "holographic" because an inadequate setup gives you pictures of pixels is kind of silly.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by firepilot
It's funny you should mention that an ats'r made the video because just last night as I was viewing some videos in unrelated forums the thought occurred that these were edited and selectively pieced to make them deliberately hokey and wierd when at their core there was something to see and something to know. I had suspected that 'instructional' propaganda videos and 'internet' stories were often manufactured in order to brainwash and discredit or to suck someone into a debunk trap.
I appreciate more than I can express your forthright information and whether we ever agree or not on what is going on in the skies I won't forget.