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Antenna to replace batteries and provide unlimited free energy for electric cars!!

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posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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hi i love tesla and have read everything possible about him
even b4 the net wen books were popular lol
any way a theory was preposed indicating that at the time of the tunguska event
tesla was doing his weather manipulation.
i will dig a source if no ats members beatme to it lol




posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 01:49 AM
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Fascists wants free energy.
Communists wants free energy.
Socialists wants free energy.

Now, in this list, who is missing?
Oh yeah, that other selfish group that wants PROFITS.

Not global happiness, personal happiness.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:44 AM
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The Ops thread title is thought provoking, I drive a Hybrid car and know its relatively easy to recharge big batterys in a hybrid but not so easy if there is no fossil fuel energy sourced engine under the bonnet.
Turning a motor via an Antenna it would be brilliant if it was achievable, and who is to say it won't be , some day soon?



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 05:01 AM
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See this is the problem.

Capitalism is not a political system, it is an economic system. Sure, you can marry capitalism with any political system. In America it is a Capitalist Republic. China is a Totalitarian Capitalist state.

It is not capitalism that is bad. It is government sanctioned capitalism that is bad. By its very nature, capitalism is market driven. When you take a government that tinkers with the system, that is when things get screwed up.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by michael1983l
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But that is just not the case, a radio transmitter converts power and modulation into an electromagnetic propogated wave. Your antenna then receives this and when the electric and magnetic feild of the transmitted wave cut through the antenna it excites the particles and creates a tiny voltage and current. However this is just from the original power amplify from the transmitter. There is no power the that has come from nothing and the current and voltage is tiny.


Is there a reading comprehension problem here ?

Who said that there was something gained from nothing ?

How do you suppose that wireless transmission of energy occurs ?

Conceptually That is essentially what we have here.

I was using the radio example because it's understood by most people and is exactly what occurs when the tuner in the receiver is tuned to the frequency of the transmitter.

The concept has long been proven and is exemplified in everyday in AM radio such as CB radios, walkies , etc.

In the crystal diode radio...

The germanium crystal in the diode converts the radio frequency to audio frequency.

But it is only using the energy of the transmitted radio signal only.

Back to my original point was that Tesla was envisioning using the charge which accumulates in the atmosphere which in essence is a huge Capacitor.

And lightning is the discharge of this tremendous amount of power and could be harnessed via a tuned receiver using the same principles of resonant circuits in radios.

One would only require a circuit fast enough to absorb the energy and to store it. Most likely via capacitors in parallel with a battery.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by michael1983l
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Lightning is a bi product of the electrostatic discharge from the current built up by the friction in the atmosphere. A capacitor has two or more plates and allows an electrostaic charge to build up inbetween and will discharge at a set rate. With all respect, you may have built a radio by reading articles or documents but you clearly do not understand how it operates at base level.


Vieleicht solte Ich mein antwort an Dich auf Deutsch zu schreiben ?

That means that maybe I should explain this in German ? Because we have a communication gap apparently.

Anyway...

Capacitors are naturally occurring in nature and was the foundation of what Tesla was envisioning.

The accumulated charge in the clouds acts as a natural (-) capacitor plate. The air of the atmosphere is the dielectric and the earth's surface is the opposing (+) plate.


Remember that current is comprised of charge and so is capacitance.

From physics Capacitance is defined as C = Q/V

where:
Q = Charge
V= Volts
C= Capacitance

Lightning is a bi product of the electrostatic discharge from the accumulation of Charge and not from the Current. Note the term "discharge"..as in comprised of charge...

The lightning itself is the manifestation of the accumulated charge resulting in the bolt of lightning now comprised of current which connects the negatively charged clouds with the positively charged surface of the earth.

Plain and Simple


This is what could be potentially harnessed. Via a tuned receiver, tuned to the frequency of the storm clouds frequency.

It is free energy in the sense that it is created everyday in nature and is proven by the sheer amount of stored energy in a common bolt of lightning.

Which has been measured to amount to 30,000. Amperes.....which is a tremendous amount.
For only 10 Amperes are necessary to electrocute a grown Man.

I have in actuality earned a Bachelors of Science Degree in Electrical Engineering.
And I have over 20 years of Engineering experience to go along with it.


With all due respect: I cannot pay much if any regard to opinionated judgements directed upon myself pertaining to my perceived knowledge by others who haven't yet even mastered the use of the rudimentary aspects of spelling and/or the mastery of spell check. Or typing for that matter.




edit on 25-6-2011 by nh_ee because: Was sollte Ich hier zu Schreiben weil es so einfach ist !



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by VonDoomen
From what i understand of tesla's energy project-

He identified that there was a natural current flowing through the earth. I believe its called the schuman resonance frequency or something like this.
what tesla did with his huge towers (wardenclyffe) was to pulse energy into the atmosphere. Much like what tesla did with his alternating current (AC) instead of sending electricity through the wires (DC) what he did was charge the wires and then hit them with packets of energy, sort of like if you hit the back of the train, the whole train would move foward. This was much more efficient than what edison wanted to do.

So he was using the same concept as this. He was pulsing energy into the atmosphere and then recouperating it. there is a difference between sending energy through a line and pulsing it through a line. It still required an energy input, so it wasnt exactly free energy. just an interesting way to send it out and recover it where needed.

I deff feel this is the way of the future!



The reason as to why we use AC vs DC is that AC because it's considerably more efficient in that its self cancelling as in equal positive and negative pulses vs DC only constant positive pulse, AC transmits more efficiently over long distances with considerably less losses.

This self cancelling principle was the essence of Tesla's concept of power generation and transmission.

As far as transmitting power via the earth or other mediums such as water, the same principles of cancellation apply and why we use another one of Tesla's inventions to communicate with our Submarine fleet via impulses sent through the oceans via HAARP which bounces Extra Low Frequency (ELF) signals off of the ionosphere and into the oceans.

Due to the Extra Low Frequency nature of these signals they are better able to penetrate the depths of the oceans where the Submarines are commonly submerged to.

www.fas.org...



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Arbitrageur
It works!

But as Tesla himself said, it probably won't happen, not because it's impossible, but because it's impractical.


You can actually get almost decent efficiency as long as you're in the near field - which wouldn't be of any use for a real car, but might be for things like VAD pumps. See also Dr Soljacic (pronounced 'sool ya chitch' lol)



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by nh_ee
Capacitors are naturally occurring in nature and was the foundation of what Tesla was envisioning.


Not from what I've read about his 'free energy' stuff from his patents, but whatever.



The accumulated charge in the clouds acts as a natural (-) capacitor plate. The air of the atmosphere is the dielectric and the earth's surface is the opposing (+) plate.


Remember that current is comprised of charge and so is capacitance.


Capacitance is not charge. Capacitance is the ability to store charge. That's why the units are different.



Lightning is a bi product of the electrostatic discharge from the accumulation of Charge and not from the Current. Note the term "discharge"..as in comprised of charge...


Discharging a charged capacitor produces current.



This is what could be potentially harnessed. Via a tuned receiver, tuned to the frequency of the storm clouds frequency.


No. A storm cloud doesn't have a "frequency". Lightning dissipates the available energy in several ways - light, heating of the atmospheric channel it's flowing in, heating in the cloud and ground, and by blurting out a wideband burst of radio noise. There's no magic "frequency" you can tune to and absorb. You might be able to garner a microwatt here and there.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by nh_ee
The reason as to why we use AC vs DC is that AC because it's considerably more efficient in that its self cancelling as in equal positive and negative pulses vs DC only constant positive pulse, AC transmits more efficiently over long distances with considerably less losses.


The reason we use AC is that you can run it through a transformer with pretty good efficiency. The majority of the losses in the transmission line are related to the current, not to any "self cancellation". Since you can easily use a transformer on AC, you can switch to high voltage/low current for transmission over a distance, then step down to high current/lower voltage for local use. In order to do that with DC in Edison/Tesla's time, you'd have to use a motor/generator setup, which is much more expensive and less efficient.

It should be noted that some long transmission lines in use today are DC - we can do the transformation back to AC pretty efficiently these days.



This self cancelling principle was the essence of Tesla's concept of power generation and transmission.

As far as transmitting power via the earth or other mediums such as water, the same principles of cancellation apply and why we use another one of Tesla's inventions to communicate with our Submarine fleet via impulses sent through the oceans via HAARP which bounces Extra Low Frequency (ELF) signals off of the ionosphere and into the oceans.


Not so much. Not only do we not use ELF anymore, but when we did, HAARP was not the main source of the signals, it was more of a backup - HAARP's not an operational base. It didn't "bounce off the ionosphere", the ionosphere was the source of the power for producing the signals, it was also the antenna - HAARP doesn't emit ELF directly, it induces it in the ionosphere in a really indirect way.

The reason ELF or VLF is used is due to something called Maxwell's Equations, which tell you that you lose a lot of signal to conductive fluids like seawater. You lose less to lower frequency EM. That's the entire reason. It's a real a--pain otherwise - it's inefficient, it has a low bandwidth, and the receivers are very complicated - the Navy uses SQUIDS to pick up the h-field of the wave on the later model receivers.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by nh_ee


The reason as to why we use AC vs DC is that AC because it's considerably more efficient in that its self cancelling as in equal positive and negative pulses vs DC only constant positive pulse, AC transmits more efficiently over long distances with considerably less losses.


This isn't true. For the same net power and peak voltage, DC transmission is more efficient, with lower inductive losses. However, in the 1880's/1890's there was no cost-effective way to increase and decrease the voltage with DC whereas magnetic-core transformers could do so with AC. The benefit of going to higher voltages with AC greatly outweighed the disadvantages, and so the power grid was built with poly phase AC.

Today, there are high-voltage semiconductor rectifiers which are used for long-distance DC transmission lines but too much infrastructure has been built on AC to make them used in more than specialized applications.



The reason as to why we use AC vs DC is that AC because it's considerably more efficient in that its self cancelling as in equal positive and negative pulses vs DC only constant positive pulse, AC transmits more efficiently over long distances with considerably less losses.

This self cancelling principle was the essence of Tesla's concept of power generation and transmission.


This is nonsense. The principle of Tesla's concept of power generation was 3-phase AC, you get sqrt(3)=1.73... times more power for 1.5 x as many wires as two phase. And it is ideal for big AC induction motors which have fewer mechanical parts, hence are more reliable, than DC motors.

In a nutshell, Tesla successfully exploited Faraday's laws of induction (part of Maxwell's equations but discovered a few decades earlier) for cost-effective engineering.

Then there's a whole bunch of bizzare nonsense about him.

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posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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hi
that is the best and straight to the point answer
as you say this was at the time of sufficiency
nonetheless tesla will always be in my mind
regards.....dave



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 10:52 AM
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sorry if this is old
yes the self cancelling is what im researching
ac to dc rectification is basically fooling the cercuit to think its getting that smooth + - waveform
and as ive said b4 this imo is the way 4ward

tesla used 3 gens to get them up 2 constant and 1 supplied the other
im afraid this world is efd up
government= Dictatorship



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