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Dox everywhere: LulzSec under attack from hackers, law enforcement

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posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 09:07 AM
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Dox everywhere: LulzSec under attack from hackers, law enforcement


arstechnica.com

Hacking group Lulz Security has found itself coming under attack from all angles, drawing unwanted attention from both law enforcement and other hackers groups. Though the group's antics have won it many fans who appreciate LulzSec's anti-establishment leanings, they've also earned plenty of enemies, and those enemies have started to fight back. So far, they've posted LulzSec's "dox"—the names, pictures, and addresses of the people claimed to be the ringleaders of the group.
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posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 09:07 AM
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As the LulzSec drama continues, we begin to see a clearer picture of their "place" in the cyber-world.

Aside from the many groups supporting the Establishment, even groups one might have thought would be "on LulzSec's side" are displaying true disdain for their conduct...


LulzSec has also been taking heat from the anti-establishment side of the fence, represented by TeaMp0isoN_. TeaMp0isoN_ members don't care about the victims, don't deny their blackhat status, and don't like law enforcement or security companies. Instead, they're motivated by disdain for LulzSec's methods and public profile—they think that LulzSec are "scene fags." LulzSec's tools have been simple SQL injection and Local File Inclusion vulnerabilities, and botnet-powered Distributed Denial of Service attacks: in TeaMp0isoN_'s view, this is not enough to earn the label hacker.


Another prediction to follow:


For the time being, LulzSec appears to be shrugging off the attacks, continuing to laugh, at least in public, at its accusers. The group promises that it will be publishing more stolen documents on Friday: the first fruit from its "Anti-Security" venture, in which it has sought to attack and embarrass computer security companies and law enforcement agencies.


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posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 09:22 AM
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lulzSec deserve all the flak they get IMHO. They are nothing but a talentless bunch of attention seeking script kiddies. You gain nothing by attacking toy companies, you gain nothing by stealing data of the 'innocents'.
If you're gonna do a hack job, do it properly, go after the big boys and prove what they are up to.

My opinion.

st.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 09:36 AM
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Heh, I don't care about lulzsec one jot, but I still find it ironic that people continually label anon and these guys as script kiddies.

Believe it or not, there is a fraction of skill involved.

Script kiddies annoy services, distributed attacks can disable a domain.

But to compromise a server undetected, retrieve information from that server, and leave undetected unless you leave a calling card... thats not a typical basement dwelling 14 year old with LOIC.

-- they may help in deed, but not in fact.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by SatoriTheory
If you're gonna do a hack job, do it properly, go after the big boys and prove what they are up to.


What hackers are doing this?



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by badw0lf
But to compromise a server undetected, retrieve information from that server, and leave undetected unless you leave a calling card... thats not a typical basement dwelling 14 year old with LOIC.


Well I'm no genius, but seeing as the lulzsec guy got arrested, I would say its a fairly safe bet to say that he wasn't doing his stuff undetected. There are plenty of scripts and tools available to do what you describe at the click of a button.

How is hacking Sony of benefit?
How is hacking Sega of benefit?
How is stealing personal information of the public of benefit?

All that does is prove that companies have holes in their security. But anyone who uses windows OS knows how craptastic it is at security, so its no surprise there are holes in company server security.

All these actions by the 'attention seeking' hackers are playing into the hands of the governments who want to censor the internet. Its hindering free internet and helping the governments in their cause.

Do you think all those people who got their info hacked thru Sega/Sony are annoyed at the companies, or more annoyed at the hackers?

These guys do not have mature heads on their shoulders. LulzSec are all about doing it for the 'Lulz', nothing more. That's how you know this lot are only script kiddies.

st.
edit on 23-6-2011 by SatoriTheory because: typosaurus



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by SatoriTheory

Originally posted by badw0lf
But to compromise a server undetected, retrieve information from that server, and leave undetected unless you leave a calling card... thats not a typical basement dwelling 14 year old with LOIC.


Well I'm no genius, but seeing as the lulzsec guy got arrested, I would say its a fairly safe bet to say that he wasn't doing his stuff undetected. There are plenty of scripts and tools available to do what you describe at the click of a button.

How is hacking Sony of benefit?
How is hacking Sega of benefit?
How is stealing personal information of the public of benefit?

All that does is prove that companies have holes in their security. But anyone who uses windows OS knows how craptastic it is at security, so its no surprise there are holes in company server security.

All these actions by the 'attention seeking' hackers are playing into the hands of the governments who want to censor the internet. Its hindering free internet and helping the governments in their cause.

Do you think all those people who got their info hacked thru Sega/Sony are annoyed at the companies, or more annoyed at the hackers?

These guys do not have mature heads on their shoulders. LulzSec are all about doing it for the 'Lulz', nothing more. That's how you know this lot are only script kiddies.

st.
edit on 23-6-2011 by SatoriTheory because: typosaurus


The lulzsec guys was just a host of a IRC server.

Deny ignorance friend.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by SatoriTheory
All these actions by the 'attention seeking' hackers are playing into the hands of the governments who want to censor the internet. Its hindering free internet and helping the governments in their cause.


Meh, if there weren't hacker groups, then government would make them up, if they haven't already. If their agenda is to censor the internet, then they will get it done, regardless whether or not there are real hacker groups.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by prolific
The lulzsec guys was just a host of a IRC server.

Deny ignorance friend.


Is that what LulzSec are saying?

That aside, my other points still stand.

st.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by OMsk3ptic
Meh, if there weren't hacker groups, then government would make them up, if they haven't already. If their agenda is to censor the internet, then they will get it done, regardless whether or not there are real hacker groups.


Sounds like you are trying to justify LulzSec's existence.

G_d help us!

st.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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Simple lesson, shall be learned from all those recent hackers attacks, by all the hackers, who are doing them, doesn't matter, how good you think you are "there's always a bigger fish in a sea" Just a thought.
edit on 23-6-2011 by Stingray77 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by SatoriTheory
Sounds like you are trying to justify LulzSec's existence.


No, I'm saying they aren't helping the government, because if the government's agenda is to censor the net, they are going to, regardless if LulzSec exists or not.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by OMsk3ptic
No, I'm saying they aren't helping the government, because if the government's agenda is to censor the net, they are going to, regardless if LulzSec exists or not.


Their actions are indirectly helping the government by turning the general public even more against hacking.
The general public is not going to be happy that their personal details have been hacked.

There is a reason why other groups are turning against them.

st.



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