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Is the US now considered a Totalitarian Democracy?

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posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:13 PM
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In many ways I believe the US is considered a totalitarian democracy.

For those of you who don't know what a totalitarian democracy is here's a definition




a system of government in which lawfully elected representatives maintain the integrity of a nation state whose citizens, while granted the right to vote, have little or no participation in the decision-making process of the government


In many ways it is true because while we change our leaders like all the time we still can't change the policies that was pushed upon us (For example US adventurism in Libya)

Another additional info



A totalitarian democracy, says Talmon, accepts "exclusive territorial sovereignty" as its right. It retains full power of expropriation and full power of imposition, i.e., the right of control over everything and everyone. Maintenance of such power, in the absence of full support of the citizenry, requires the forceful suppression of any dissenting element except what the government purposely permits or organizes. Liberal democrats, who see political strength as growing from the bottom up (cf: "grass roots"), reject in principle the idea of coercion in shaping political will, but the totalitarian democratic state holds it as an ongoing imperative.


We have TSA, Police Brutality(G20), Torture of Bradley Manning etc

Here's are two examples:

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...


Source:

en.wikipedia.org...




posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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Totalitarian democracy is a contradiction of terms as democracy is usually divided in two or more.

But I get what you're saying, the brainwashed vote in their tyrants and enjoy the totalitarianism, but on the plus side you're living in interesting times.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:28 PM
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I would normally consider that an oxymoron, but you do have a persuasive argument. The BIG QUESTION is; what do we do about it?



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:30 PM
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Some say that in order to restore the Republic (Not Democracy) we have to have a revolution



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:37 PM
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No

Read my location.

Our country is now run and operated by and for the corporations.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:42 PM
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Yes we have a totalitarian aka democracy, actually America is not a Democracy but rule by republics, but in this days and time we are held by a two ruling parties or classes and they do not allow third parties or oppositions to thrive.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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Forgot to add this




An argument can be made that in some circumstances it is actually the political, economic, and military élite who interpret the general will to suit their own interests.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by ofhumandescent
No

Read my location.

Our country is now run and operated by and for the corporations.

I have been hearing that more and more recently. That we are a "corporate state"; the reverse of a fascistic state but still totalitarianistic.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by sonofliberty1776

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
No

Read my location.

Our country is now run and operated by and for the corporations.

I have been hearing that more and more recently. That we are a "corporate state"; the reverse of a fascistic state but still totalitarianistic.

I would say the U.S is fascist/National socialist.

If presidents can fire the CEO's of corporations, how do the corporations have the power?


edit on 22-6-2011 by Rockdisjoint because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 07:00 PM
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Corporate Socialist Republic.

We the people … do ordain and establish this Corporation...



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by Rockdisjoint

Originally posted by sonofliberty1776

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
No

Read my location.

Our country is now run and operated by and for the corporations.

I have been hearing that more and more recently. That we are a "corporate state"; the reverse of a fascistic state but still totalitarianistic.

I would say the U.S is fascist/National socialist.

If presidents can fire the CEO's of corporations, how do the corporations have the power?


edit on 22-6-2011 by Rockdisjoint because: (no reason given)
No CEO's were harmed in the making of this post. Neither were any harmed by any sham "firings". Owebowmao is owned by the corporations/tptb. Now "real" firings" would be permitted. However, the show must go on so the looting can continue.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 07:27 PM
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No CEO's were harmed in the making of this post. Neither were any harmed by any sham "firings". Owebowmao is owned by the corporations/tptb. Now "real" firings" would be permitted. However, the show must go on so the looting can continue.

I don't think so, but it doesn't really matter. It's tyranny, it doesn't matter what name you give it.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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I've always considered the government of the US to be an unrepresentative aristocracy. Our elected leaders claim to represent the will of the masses yet they constantly ignore it. When the elected leaders DO hear the will of the masses it's only to respond to their special interests and it's to do what they want to do under the guise of populism... in short what we have is corporatism disguised under populism. It's a shameful thing and I wonder if it is like this elsewhere in the world.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power. -Benito Mussolini

Yeah, that's about what we have.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by sonofliberty1776

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
No

Read my location.

Our country is now run and operated by and for the corporations.

I have been hearing that more and more recently. That we are a "corporate state"; the reverse of a fascistic state but still totalitarianistic.


The US is the very definition of fascist: rule by corporation.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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It's fascism with elements of illusory Democracy to keep the people happy. The corporations and the government work together to make the people think that they have all these choices, tell the people that we have a free-market, when in reality we have anything but what they say we do.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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In order to have a REAL revolution, the US military would also have to revolt since we are sworn to protect the gov. This would actually be the easier part. Im army ranger and you can guarantee theres not a single man in the entire branch that would fire on American civilians. All it would take is that order from way up high "fire at will" and the president would have a class A mutiny =]




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