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How to awaken others without karmic effect to self?

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posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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Greetings, and may Peace be upon us all.

Law of Free Will: Each individual's right to be aware, think, feel, speak, act, and react in any way they choose without restriction. The choice to know or not know a thing.

Confusion and Free Will: Speak to people according to their capacity. Do not give information, ideas, beliefs, or facts to a person if it will set off 'negative' chain reactions. Such as instilling a sense of fear, anger, confusion, or irrationality based on a lack of complete understanding. Also of consequence, do not cause others to grow a premature disdain for an idea for lack of complete understanding. Feed others with ideas that they can handle, so that they may not misrepresent the idea to others. All setting off a Karmic Effect upon one's self.

Regarding politics, government, corporations, pharmaceuticals, banking, food/nutrition, war, history, religion, corruption, propaganda, brainwashing, distractions, social engineering, etc.

How does one spread information or awareness without causing 'negative' karmic effects to themselves?

Most of us know there is a "press release truth" and a "hidden in plain sight truth." Many people whole-heartedly believe in the press release truth given through the media and those in positions of power. When a person is so deeply entranced to the press release truth that they have a hard time believing proven truth, what are we to do?

Example:
"Hey, did you know soda and diet soda will increase your rates for cancer?"

"Then why do they sell it? I'll eat and drink whatever I want!"

The person warned is now mad, even though only advice was given and not a command issued. Negative karma was inflicted on the advisor in the form of anger.


If any little piece of information can shake personal foundations based upon lies, deception, and propaganda.... how can you "wake people up" to ANY issue without negative karma? When we discover anything, should we stick our heads in the dirt and keep everything a secret? How can a newsletter, blog, column, or conversation function according to the Law of Free Will if specific information is only to be given when asked?




posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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By letting them find out their own way, but their own free will. Enough of this 'lets hold hands and sing kumbya' (talking the talk) stuff but rather (walking the walk) living your life how you want to, molding everything you want to bring to it together, so you can be a shining example to others that walk by you, letting them just feel the magnificent energy.

Or we could all continue asking 'how do we do this, how do we do that' again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

Jolly good, eh?



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:20 PM
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be a shining example to others that walk by you, letting them just feel the magnificent energy.

Bingo, my thoughts exactly! I have found that some people I know, who were once against ideas/opinions that were not on the news or in their text books, over time and through their own revelation, became inquisitive about what may lie behind the veil. Then some began asking what I think about this or that and where I got my info.
Granted, sometimes I have had to resist dumping all of my realizations at once, in an uncontrolled excited rant.


Peace,
spec
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posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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If people are ment to hear the message they will. If not, then you can not wake them up without incuring any Karma both good and bad. Some are ready to be woken up and others, well lets just say to wake them up would have far worse effects than leaving them asleep.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:22 PM
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I agree with OneLife. A pretty existential approach to it. Live your life how you believe that all human life should be lived. It's up to everyone else to take what they will from your example of life - or to take nothing at all
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posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:26 PM
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Hi there. I'm all with you on the "walk the walk," be a shining example, and live life while letting others live theirs.

Sometimes we know things that effect health, societies, and daily life.
When you see a person walking towards a cliff face, do you warn them or allow them to discover it on their own, even if they don't see the danger? What if they believe they are heading towards solid ground, and your warning only angers them?

My dilemma is finding facts that effect daily life, then when I share it with others they mostly get defensive and angry. Should I allow others to continue in ignorant danger? I would want someone with more knowledge to warn me of things I was unaware of.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:27 PM
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Exactly and very precise. It's nice to see another that agrees with the viewpoint, at least partially. We all hold a piece of the infinity, a unique piece. Working upon each of our own piece of the infinity/the work that gets us high and passionate/the thing we are tremendous at, and we will have done all that we can to help others along the way to find their own piece, and to bring to the table of Humanity both many different aspects of the Infinity of Life, and of a united Humanity.

To Sahabi: There's a small, hardly noticeable differece when you're trying to warn a person's subconscious (such that we are infinity) and warning their physical form (that they are about to fall off a cliff). They are to learn about their subconscious indepentedly so they can gain the responsibility rather then having the government take responsibility (police state). But if you warn someone of physical dangers, I just give them a heads up and let them know they are about to hit rock bottom. What they do after that is of their responsibility.

I am not going to repeatadly say 'watch out, you're going to fall off the cliff' because I love life, but I don't want to smother life. It is a very small difference you can barely notice, but it is there. Putting up warning signs to inform someone of a cliff ahead is again, taking away responsibility. If they fall off, it is their problem, their responsibility. If it is in My capability to fly down to them to help them up, I will, again, just once. Once is enough, to 'plant the seed'. Anymore and is just smothering and taking away their responsibility.

I cannot word what I mean to say properly for some reason, so I hope that helps answer your question on what MY individual truth to that subject is.
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posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:34 PM
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This concept sounds like the one Heavy Hand spoke of in his Illuminati thread here a few years ago.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...



H_H did a very good job explaining this and even how the information should be approached. Basically to take nothing as truth and to discover what is right for your own self. Each of us is here for our own personal growth spiritually. We had a game plan on coming to this reality and it's our job to learn in a positive direction (before the great harvest). This philosophy really resonates with me but then I think if this is the Illuminati/Satanic version of how things are then my big question is "Are we getting the wool pulled over our eyes by the devil?". And are the Illuminati really causing all of this negative energy so we have more opportunity to show our positive side? (kind of a yin/yang thing...which I also heavily believe in).

Every day of our lives we risk causing negative karma, just know that no negative karma will come from me. I really do think your attitude and outlook on things can create a more positive environment (assuming you keep it positive to begin with).

To quote Heavy_Hand (as I believe it's a good quote):

We leave you all in the Love, and the Light of our One Infinite Creator



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:42 PM
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Wow... OneLife you hit the nail on the head... We all have to be willing to step up and take on a little bad karma to better the human cause... ever hear the expression "We all have our cross to bear"



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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Would you handle it differently if it's your good friends and family members?
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posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by OneLife
Enough of this 'lets hold hands and sing kumbya' (talking the talk) stuff but rather (walking the walk)



you are only half right if you think one way or the other. You must walk your walk, because thats how you chose to walk. And you must talk your talk, when they ask why you walk the way you walk. You must be the example you wish to see in the world, and answer them honestly when someone finally takes notice.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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No.

If I may, I'd like to bring a little of my opinion upon.. how funny 'fate' is at times before I head to work. Even if it were My own mother or father, I would not let my emotions run haywire and act any differently. At times I still fight the primal urges to treat others with higher respect rather then everyone as a United humanity, but even if it were a friend, or My father I haven't seen in 8 years, it is ultimately their own choice, not of Mine and I will not take away their responsibility to what Life has before them.

I know why you asked the question, just as someone would ask 'then why can't you fly' when I say nothing is impossible. I do not have the answer to that nor can I put it into words, but there is something more that is as of yet, indescribable. It is funny though, that same question is happening right now with the politicians giving their friends all these deals while the rest are left to fend on the scraps. I do not play favorites because when you finally see just how small our planet is, you'll see it makes no sense to be divided and makes every bit of sense to unite together upon this planet we all have grown up upon, and slowly climb upwards, rather then down, once we finally grasp that mindset, collectively.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:59 PM
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Fair enough. Right now I'm focusing upon responsibility, honour, and balance. I see no need to currently talk as I walk down this path to be a beacon example for others that they to can walk this very path, rather then degrade themselves not doing what they don't want to. Half right, I like it, for I intend to be both half right and half wrong rather then be biased to either side of the paradigm.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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*applause*

This is how things get done.

Glad were on the same team.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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Why can't people just spread the love on people and not worry what they think? I may be new here but I'm just trying to spread the love to people who could use it. I mean, if you aren't shoving anything down their throats then is it such harm to just introduce them to the things they've never heard of, or even at least see things differently. If it's free will, it's their choice. And my will isn't going to hold me back in this, no matter what it is I'm trying to share with the public... If that made sense...



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 10:59 PM
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help anyone you can. Just make sure you think thoroughly about what you are saying and what the consequences may be. If you think things through before you say them, everything will be fine. Never just blurt things out, that is the worst thing you can do.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by purespirit
Why can't people just spread the love on people and not worry what they think? I may be new here but I'm just trying to spread the love to people who could use it. I mean, if you aren't shoving anything down their throats then is it such harm to just introduce them to the things they've never heard of, or even at least see things differently. If it's free will, it's their choice. And my will isn't going to hold me back in this, no matter what it is I'm trying to share with the public... If that made sense...


You are right, dont listen to most of these posts that are not thoroughly thought about. Most people just posted after a few simple thoughts. There are no right or wrong answers. Help all the people you can, just think about what you are saying and the possible consequences. If you can find a way to help someone and really help them see things differently and possibly change their lives...thats the absolute best thing you can do. Dont let anyone tell you that you should not help. Listen to yourself.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 01:08 AM
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I think some of you are not giving it much thought on what OP is trying to say. The truth may not always be a popular idea and spreading the truth might make you an outcast. Or result in a negative experience where the recipient might take offense to your message...



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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Read the Tao Te Ching.

The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao.

You assume you can have an impact on anyone's awakening or karma with your words. You don't. They will 'awaken' as they are ready and no amount of information is going to get them anything more than an intellectual understanding. In other words, no understanding at all. It is about experience, not explanation. Something you can't transmit.

Living your own life is your sole responsibility.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 09:27 AM
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I have tried to tell my mother some of the things that i have learned but just mentioning aliens scare the crap out of her. She is very innocent a very good hearted person. But it does get frustrating ot not be able to talk to anybody about the things that learn.



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