Police Arrest Woman For Videotaping Them From Her Front Yard: (Wait till you see this tape!)

reply to post by SavedOne


The order she was given was not lawful to begin with. What if he had "ordered" her to perform a sexual favor? The cop has to give his orders within the law too. If he was so worried about the perp he had in handcuffs and being held by other cops, why did he go free?

Originally posted by Kitilani
reply to post by SavedOne

 

The order she was given was not lawful to begin with. What if he had "ordered" her to perform a sexual favor? The cop has to give his orders within the law too. If he was so worried about the perp he had in handcuffs and being held by other cops, why did he go free?

how was the order not lawful?

lawl, jail isnt bad. if she has some cash and gets a good lawyer the cop will have that on his record and not be able to make it past sgt. next time i get arrested i intend on talking # about how rich i am and letting them know how bad they are f'ing up.

Your Rights as a U.S. Citizen Against Unlawful Arrest ..........

“Citizens may resist Unlawful arrest to the point of taking an officer’s life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S., 529. The court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense was commited.”

“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. If the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh V. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.

“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.

“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. 1; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.

“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260.





“Each Person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, ther person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self defense.” State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100.

“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910.

“The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.”
Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol. 2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197.

I am sure some Police Officers in this Country are Unaware about these Court Decisions when Overstepping their Authority . People who know the Law should Remind them about it from Time to Time for the sake of their Own Safety . The Woman in this Video was Intimidated by that Police Officer because she was just Not Aware of her Rights and Cow Downed to his Intimidation of her Ignorance . She should take this matter to a Lawyer Immediately and press charges against him IMO .

Originally posted by Kitilani
reply to post by SavedOne

 

The order she was given was not lawful to begin with. What if he had "ordered" her to perform a sexual favor? The cop has to give his orders within the law too. If he was so worried about the perp he had in handcuffs and being held by other cops, why did he go free?

great point man. * for you

Originally posted by Aleister
The cop seemed sane and semi-nice, it's just that he doesn't understand the country of America and its constitution. Even if the Supreme Court would side with the cops on this, they would be wrong, as are many court decisions which ignore the constitution. This woman seemed upset, which is kind of natural with a first arrest (if it is her first arrest) but she made her stand and it was an honorable one.

I disagree that he seemed "nice", considering that arresting this innocent woman could have caused this woman to lose her job, her home, or be assaulted in prison. He knew the grief he was bringing to her even if she didn't.

Originally posted by Acidtastic
yay, more police abusing laws ment for terrorists. Lets not forget, if you are against the abuse which the police inflict on the people, then you are a terrorist!!

It is NOT against the law to film the police (so long as you are not in their way at all) It does not make you a terrorist. But the police will wrongfully use anti terror laws against every citizen, becasue they think they can. And aslong as they get away with it, they can. The scum that they are.

What you fail to realize is that the "police" ARE the terrorists!!! If we look at the definition of a terrorist, you will see a police officer in the picture. If you fear them, THEY are the terrorists. We should not fear them as WE are their bosses, WE pay the taxes which pays THEIR salary. BUT, we have rolled over and taken it up the rear!!

reply to post by anon72


If Americans had any guts they would arrest that police officer, instead they go in foreign lands and kill innocent women and children for Banksters and Corporation profits.

May GOD help the future generation of America, they will be the one facing this problem.

reply to post by Zanti Misfit


i dont know man. unless youre that marine that got raided and you somehow managed to kill like 15 swat officers instead of being smear on your living room carpet. i just cant picture that holding up these days.


i blame the drug war. you got all these people killing cops because they dont want to do 25 years for their 3rd strike on 400 bucks worth of coke. that and speeding tickets have created an adversarial relationship between citizen and police.

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by Kitilani
reply to post by SavedOne

 

The order she was given was not lawful to begin with. What if he had "ordered" her to perform a sexual favor? The cop has to give his orders within the law too. If he was so worried about the perp he had in handcuffs and being held by other cops, why did he go free?

how was the order not lawful?

How was it lawful?

reply to post by confreak


its not gonna last man. its only a matter of time before this broken system breaks down. this day and age there is no way it would be replaced with a more oppresive system than what is out there today.

Originally posted by SavedOne

Originally posted by anon72

What the hell is our country come to? Honestly? You can't videotape a police officer doing his job from your own front yard? WHY?

Clearly if you watch the video she did NOT get arrested for videotaping. That in fact had nothing to do with her arrest. She was arrested for deliberately disobeying a police officer. He warned her several times to go into her house and she refused. He clearly warned her several more times that if she refused she was risking going to jail and she STILL refused. He finally arrested her for willful disobedience (NOT for videotaping). Here's the deal, the police officer is trying to arrest a perp and someone is standing behind him in the dark holding an object that is pointed in his direction. OF COURSE he felt unsafe because of that. THAT is why he asked her to go indoors, if you doubt that then just listen to the clip again because that is exactly what he said he was concerned about. The woman was a complete idiot and deserved to be hauled downtown. She could have videotaped from inside her house, but nooooo.

My sentiments actually. She could of made her little film from her window and all of this, would of been avoided. Her stupidity, Her fault. Case closed. She was INTERFERING with his investigation. And maybe he worded himself wrong about the Obstruction of Justice. Should of used Interfering instead. All I see is her causing a scene and him keeping his cool while she was clearly confrontational in it all.

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
Your Rights as a U.S. Citizen Against Unlawful Arrest ..........

“Citizens may resist Unlawful arrest to the point of taking an officer’s life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S., 529. The court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense was commited.”

“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. If the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh V. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.

“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.

“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. 1; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.

“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260.





“Each Person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, ther person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self defense.” State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100.

“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910.

“The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.”
Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol. 2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197.

I am sure some Police Officers in this Country are Unaware about these Court Decisions when Overstepping their Authority . People who know the Law should Remind them about it from Time to Time for the sake of their Own Safety . The Woman in this Video was Intimidated by that Police Officer because she was just Not Aware of her Rights and Cow Downed to his Intimidation of her Ignorance . She should take this matter to a Lawyer Immediately and press charges against him IMO .

Very nice post, well done on you!!! I wish more people would investigate THEIR rights. If you do not know you have any rights then you do not have any rights. And you only have those rights you are willing to fight for.

reply to post by badw0lf

Nazi Germany wasn't defeated after world war 2, it just packed up shop and moved over to the U.S. I can't believe the Nazism..you guys have to put up with over there, if that happened in New Zealand where I live there would be a bloody riot. I can't quite understand why a lot of Americans have this thing about the big bad British Royal Family?Commonwealth trying to rule the world, etc , when your own government treats you with complete contempt. If it's not the Corporates screwing you blind it's your military dictatorship tearing up your Constitution. Like the song by " Snap", don't believe the hype it's a sequel"! When certain groups within your country finally make a military stand against the thugs that control your nation, and they most certainly will, we will be there for you. A Biblical verse for you guys to consider;

"Wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy bestows many kisses '! Proverbs 27 vs 6.

Have hope U.S., things are about to change big time in your country. Although it will be extremely painful, you wont regret it.

reply to post by Manhater


she could have said yea ill go inside, im far less of a threat to you perched up on my 2nd floor balcony with my 30-30... have a nice night.

reply to post by stevooo


Your examples of resisting arrest here are from People who Alledgedly Comitted a Crime in the first place which in turn gave the Police the Legal Authority to apprehend them . The Woman in this Video Comitted no crime , and in certain circumstances could of resisted her Arrest with Deadly Force if necessary . The Law is there to Protect All of us , not just the Police.........

Originally posted by kro32

So if your out to dinner with your wife or girlfriend and the guy at the table next to you pulls out a video camera and starts taping you two how are you gonna take it.

You gonna clap him on the back and say "yep that's your 4th amendment right, keep it up" or are you gonna get angry about it?

Happens to me all the time, because my wife is so HOTTTTTT. I hope she reads this. She has her own account now, just to check up on me I think.

basically she was kidnapped, she should have called 911 to get it recorded, the first problem with this scenario was they trespassed on her property and since there was no clear danger the officer had no right or reason to bother her no matter what she was peacefully up to.

but if i was her i would have just recorded it from the privacy of the inside of my home and been in total control of the entire situation. stupid people get screwed, if you want to push the pigs buttons just do stupid crap.

Originally posted by EmeraldGreen
some of you are so shallow and conceited
Put yourself in that uniform if you have the ability to empathise for the length of this text...

There's no excuse for police abusing their power. Stop defending evil.

Originally posted by EmeraldGreenthis is almost a petty as a domestic dispute, no one was injured no one was traumatised

Freedom was injured and traumatized. I guess if all you care about is being able to watch American Idol later that night, you'd just bend over and let the cops trample all over your freedoms. This woman was within the law, she was illegally arrested. You have no right to say "it was stupid for someone to try to stand up for their rights in this situation, because it's just creating a pointless, stupid situation" because it isn't. She was defending her rights. In fact, it's safer for people to try to stand up and defend their rights in these "stupid" situations, rather than in tense or violent situations. Then they'll probably walk away without being shot, and cops will also have no excuses for what they did.

The cops were in the wrong. NO POLICE STATE. If we stop allowing it, it will stop happening.

Originally posted by stevooo
reply to post by confreak

 

its not gonna last man. its only a matter of time before this broken system breaks down. this day and age there is no way it would be replaced with a more oppresive system than what is out there today.

It can and it will if nobody stands up for their rights. The people in Nazi Germany thought "it couldnt happen here". Just because you can eat a hotdog and wave a flag doesnt mean you're free.