I agree with your sentiment that mostly what he really did was be smarter than a bunch of morons, but I still think he should be shown a cell because
he committed fraud several hundred times over. At least, that's my understanding of the situation.
He Gets 100 Yrs in Jail, For Being Slicker Then You!?, page 1
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Topic started on 21-6-2011 @ 10:01 PM by NoRegretsEver
I wanted to start this thread to ask a particular question, but first let me say that I am not saying that doing something wrong is right.
I was watching PBS and there was a documentary about Bernie Madoff called the Madoff Affair (video.pbs.org...). Now this thread has nothing to do with the technical parts of the case. This has something to do with all the people interviewed had no real answer to how they didn't see this coming, or why no one said anything for 30+ years.
The people/group/groups that we discuss here (TPTB) have accomplished this and more. As a matter of fact we have a "TPTB" because of such ego, and knowing that many people will be looking away as long as they get something out of it.
So I ask. Why do we punish those who have a skill. Maybe not the most honorable of skills, but why punish someone who was slick enough to get over on so many people? When has gullibility become an excuse? Anyone that has ever made anything out of themselves, has in some way pulled a ponzi scheme.
If there was no one good at getting over other people we would have no industry, no government, no filthy rich. This is and always will be why we have a pyramid, and thats why they call it a pyramid scheme. There will always be someone smarter then someone else that they can get over one.
Question after question they said we just didn't ask, or we gave him everything because it seemed like a good idea.... WHAT? What they should have said was, We were getting money, we liked it, and we didn't say anything. This guy is going to do over 100 years (really how symbolic is that) for being smarter then the people he stole from.
If it were me I would walk right into court alone (represent myself), and say if one... just one person can say that I took advantage of them, send me to jail right now. No one would be able to. Oh and just in case some dummy decided to say, "you took advantage of me", I would then reply. I cannot take anything from you, you willingly gave it to me, and I accepted.
Now we all know that could never happen, but I would do it anyway, (while I was getting hauled off to jail for being a smart butt), but if people cannot be held accountable for being stupid, why should anyone else?
Peace, NRE.
I was watching PBS and there was a documentary about Bernie Madoff called the Madoff Affair (video.pbs.org...). Now this thread has nothing to do with the technical parts of the case. This has something to do with all the people interviewed had no real answer to how they didn't see this coming, or why no one said anything for 30+ years.
The people/group/groups that we discuss here (TPTB) have accomplished this and more. As a matter of fact we have a "TPTB" because of such ego, and knowing that many people will be looking away as long as they get something out of it.
So I ask. Why do we punish those who have a skill. Maybe not the most honorable of skills, but why punish someone who was slick enough to get over on so many people? When has gullibility become an excuse? Anyone that has ever made anything out of themselves, has in some way pulled a ponzi scheme.
If there was no one good at getting over other people we would have no industry, no government, no filthy rich. This is and always will be why we have a pyramid, and thats why they call it a pyramid scheme. There will always be someone smarter then someone else that they can get over one.
Question after question they said we just didn't ask, or we gave him everything because it seemed like a good idea.... WHAT? What they should have said was, We were getting money, we liked it, and we didn't say anything. This guy is going to do over 100 years (really how symbolic is that) for being smarter then the people he stole from.
If it were me I would walk right into court alone (represent myself), and say if one... just one person can say that I took advantage of them, send me to jail right now. No one would be able to. Oh and just in case some dummy decided to say, "you took advantage of me", I would then reply. I cannot take anything from you, you willingly gave it to me, and I accepted.
Now we all know that could never happen, but I would do it anyway, (while I was getting hauled off to jail for being a smart butt), but if people cannot be held accountable for being stupid, why should anyone else?
Peace, NRE.
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