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So what if someone is on welfare for a few months? They need to be sterilized and never be able to have any children for the rest of their lives?
It absolutely is discrimination. If you are going to say poor people can't reproduce, then why not say black people and Latinos can't reproduce? After all, the majority of people in our prisons are black or latino.
PUBLIC benefits, you gave up your 'rights' to privacy....
Originally posted by CobraCommander
reply to post by Maslo
So what if someone is on welfare for a few months? They need to be sterilized and never be able to have any children for the rest of their lives?
It absolutely is discrimination. If you are going to say poor people can't reproduce, then why not say black people and Latinos can't reproduce? After all, the majority of people in our prisons are black or latino.
EDIT to add: And yes, the government is entirely to blame. It is a mathematical certainty that one day we will all be on welfare under this current economic system.edit on 23-6-2011 by CobraCommander because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by moonrunner
In my less that sensible times I consider myself to be a right wing nut case, I think the above ideas seem to make perfect sense, why let the lazy drain the workers.
But you can't live in the cartoons all your life, thinking like a rational human being the forced sterilisation and drug testing on the unemployed is so far beyond wrong that I'd prefer to just inhume them all. in fact, why stop there, if we are in a society that actually thinks that this topic is even worth more discussion than a mention and a flat dismissal an grounds of decency, we need a full reset. 2012 yet?
Originally posted by ButterCookie
How many times have I stated TEMPORARY sterilization??? Or birth control?
The point is, no more being rewarded for the extra babies
No such thing as temporary sterilization.
Originally posted by CobraCommander
I'll throw you a bone here Maslo. If you are on welfare, and you have more than one or two kids while collecting benefits, any other children you have will not get you any additional benefits.
Originally posted by Maslo
Originally posted by CobraCommander
I'll throw you a bone here Maslo. If you are on welfare, and you have more than one or two kids while collecting benefits, any other children you have will not get you any additional benefits.
So how will you ensure they are taken care of, then?
Second, what you are talking about there is sterilizing men. Not only is that sexist and completely biased, but also completely ignores the fact that men do not bear children. You would have to sterilize women, as it is women who get welfare money for kids, not men.
Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by CobraCommander
This is where I disagree. Society will have to foot the bill, and children will have a bad upbringing. We need to prevent that at the source, and recognize that there is no unalienable right to unlimited procreation.
Not to mention that in many poorer countries, welfare and foster care is at a much lower level than in the US, if any. There is no question about sterilization being the right thing to do under these conditions.