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reply posted on 12-8-2004 @ 03:17 PM by SirKillallott
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Yea ur right they wouldnt need to get rid of anything becuase everyone tears it apart anyho. But this might not be the only forum talking about this.
We at ATS are much better thinkers than all the other forums  (joke) so we know better than all the rest of them and they might get sucked into
it. Other than that, i watched it again... Like i said before that voice is kinda, well demented. Other than that it kinda seems odd that the alien is
willingly letting the people prod it with a flash light... I relize that its an interview but its letting them treat it like that  . And as well
if the alien is sensitve to light wouldnt it be hurt by the flash light??
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reply posted on 12-8-2004 @ 03:53 PM by TheHeggy
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Well, the guy on the video said the darkness was for it's comfort. Having a light shined in it's eyes doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to
kill or harm the thing.
He also mentioned that the medics weren't that good, and were only chosen for their willingness to keep secrets. May explain their carelessness.
I don't think the alien WANTED to be there, as it was already sick and the people were trying to interrogate it or something.
Listen carefully to the audio track, he explains everything. Nothing on there seems to contradict anything in the video. Also, the DNI stamp on the
video.... If this was a hoax, how would the hoaxer have thought of that? (Department Of Naval Intelligence) It doesn't look edited and put on there
either. Any little jumps and such that the video makes, it's on the DNI stamp as well.
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reply posted on 12-8-2004 @ 03:56 PM by SirKillallott
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reply posted on 13-8-2004 @ 11:57 AM by Italiano
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I've seen you still have allot of work to do
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reply posted on 14-8-2004 @ 03:13 AM by Die Trying
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okey.. just a few things. where do you think it was filmed? what were they communicating about? it the goverment or another agency? the movement
around the "eyelids" looks real. what is that machine with the light flashing?
take away the voice over. the music. what do you think we would hear?was there more film on the tape?
im just curious to find out more about this film before i pass judgement.
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reply posted on 14-8-2004 @ 01:04 PM by Xon
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Im almost 100% sure that it is fake. I think I have read some were that it was fake too.
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reply posted on 14-8-2004 @ 03:39 PM by crossofcrimson
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Yes, its to unrealistic. I understand that the ET didn't like the light and I can believe that. With there large pupils they are better suited to
survive in the night. Yet, the question remaining is WHY did they add that background music? Im sure no professional would worry about music when they
are in the middle of interogating an ET to gain valuable intelligence?
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reply posted on 14-8-2004 @ 04:40 PM by Italiano
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Originally posted by Xon
Im almost 100% sure that it is fake. I think I have read some were that it was fake too. 
Many years ago the people were also ALMOST 100% sure that the Earth was flat...
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reply posted on 14-8-2004 @ 05:09 PM by Kriz_4
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I am not saying that I believe this footage to be real, however, I have not yet seen any comments/arguments that can be considered to debunk it.
In fact, alot of the negative posts appear to be by people who have not actually listened to or watched the footage properly. Otherwise they would
have not made the comments that they did.
Come on guys.
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reply posted on 14-8-2004 @ 05:25 PM by dolphinguy2004
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This is actually the first time I have seen this video so clearly. Previous to that, I have only seen the small, lower quality ones.
Seeing this video did strike some kind of chord with me.
One and a half weeks ago, I had awoken from an astral travelling experience. As I opened my eyes, I saw the same type of being, leaning over me.
What struck me, was its body movements. They seemed very similar to how this being moved in the video clip. The type of skin color was the same as
well.
But getting back to its authenticity, I did notice something in the video clip.
Here is a quote from the clip:
'In fact, you can see here, the alien is beginning to flag'.
Whe the speaker says this, it seems that he actually pre-empts the actions of the alien, before it begins to shake. So is it just me, or the speaker
actually says that the alien is beginning to flag, before the alien actually does?
Might be nothing, but normally anyone would respond to that action after you start seeing it, not beforehand.
Anyway, I don't think that their is any real proof to suggest that it is real.
There is also no proof to suggest that it is a fake either.
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reply posted on 14-8-2004 @ 05:31 PM by Kriz_4
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Originally posted by dolphinguy2004
But getting back to its authenticity, I did notice something in the video clip.
Here is a quote from the clip:
'In fact, you can see here, the alien is beginning to flag'.
Whe the speaker says this, it seems that he actually pre-empts the actions of the alien, before it begins to shake. So is it just me, or the speaker
actually says that the alien is beginning to flag, before the alien actually does?
Might be nothing, but normally anyone would respond to that action after you start seeing it, not beforehand.

The guy has seen the footage before, PLEASE LISTEN TO WHAT HE ACTUALLY SAYS.
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reply posted on 15-8-2004 @ 02:36 AM by Xon
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Originally posted by Kriz_4
In fact, alot of the negative posts appear to be by people who have not actually listened to or watched the footage properly. Otherwise they would
have not made the comments that they did.
[edit on 14-8-2004 by Kriz_4] 
I have seen it sevral times but I am 99% sure that tis is fake.
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reply posted on 16-8-2004 @ 10:45 AM by ArMaP
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I think that the "DNI" in the video was put there after the video was made, it can be seen in some frames that the movement of the time stamp is not
accompanied by a equal movement of the "DNI", and the "DNI/27" is not in the same type of letter than the timestamp, but I don't know if there
are cameras with more than one type of letter.
I altered the sound of the video, so I could understand what was said, I did not notice nothing wrong with that.
The only thing I found suspicious is that the "medical personnel" do not move the alien, if they are "checking for haemorrhaging in the eye sockets
and the nasal cavity", even if they where not very competent, they would turn the alien to them so they could examine him.
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reply posted on 17-8-2004 @ 02:31 AM by electric
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The voice of Victor wasn't very well protected from reconstruction so I've fixed it.
Victor Voice Undistorted MP3 (2 meg)
Sounds like Bob Lazar to me. Infact, I think it has only been distorted so that people cannot tell it's Bob Lazar's voice.
The only explanations I can see now are that:
1) After the "Alien Autopsy" film, Bob Lazar found himself a new money making idea and decided to hoax his own alien video.
2) Bob Lazar was not a physicist at S-4, but was involved in information storage and lied about his reverse engineering of the craft.
3) The story of Victor is made up and Bob Lazar obtained the footage by some other means.
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reply posted on 17-8-2004 @ 03:11 AM by kyateLaBoca
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excellent work electric!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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reply posted on 17-8-2004 @ 07:05 AM by Xon
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Yea that can make sense. God work it sounds like bob lazar. So Now we have found out that it is fake. What program did you use?
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reply posted on 17-8-2004 @ 01:49 PM by electric
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Originally posted by Xon
What program did you use? 
I used Adobe Audition with a pitch shift up (time scale untouched). Any decent wave editor should be able to do it.
The real anomaly here is how Bob Lazar is able to tell such believable lies.
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reply posted on 17-8-2004 @ 03:07 PM by TheBadge
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poor alien i felt bad for him cuz he looked really scared.
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reply posted on 17-8-2004 @ 03:25 PM by Janus
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Originally posted by electric
The voice of Victor wasn't very well protected from reconstruction so I've fixed it.
Victor Voice Undistorted MP3 (2 meg)
Sounds like Bob Lazar to me. Infact, I think it has only been distorted so that people cannot tell it's Bob Lazar's voice.
The only explanations I can see now are that:
1) After the "Alien Autopsy" film, Bob Lazar found himself a new money making idea and decided to hoax his own alien video.
2) Bob Lazar was not a physicist at S-4, but was involved in information storage and lied about his reverse engineering of the craft.
3) The story of Victor is made up and Bob Lazar obtained the footage by some other means. 
Ive been following the tread altough i dont know enough about the subject to contribute. electric gets my vote for Way Above for a superb piece of
work with the voice. Fantastic
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reply posted on 17-8-2004 @ 03:39 PM by groingrinder
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Aliens think in the language of thoughtform. This is the same language you used before you learned your native vocal tongue. Once you learned your
vocal language, and being non-telepathic, you had no need for the language of thoughtform and thus abandoned it.
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