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Originally posted by mb2591
That first something had to have always existed.. It couldn't have come from nothing
I think that dense point came from a previous universe..
Think of the universe as a dying star going super nova..
My theory is that the universe can only get so big then once it reaches that point, it begins to collapse in on itself
edit on 20-6-2011 by mb2591 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SaberTruth
Some interesting links on the topic:
Common Sense Science (plasma theory)
The way I look at it is that since we observe increasing entropy then the physical universe cannot be eternal. Since we also observe that no effect is greater than its cause, and it is philosophically impossible for anything to create itself since it didn't yet exist, then the physical universe must have a non-physical cause which itself is eternal. I can't imagine any way around this need for a non-physical first cause.
Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by smithjustinb
I like that idea, it'd be awesome if we could enter that region, and somehow be able to differentiate between black holes while in that area, and enter the black hole of our choice while in this no-mans-land, which would put us back in the universe in the spot of our choice. This would allow us to travel vast distances, which even at the speed of light would take millions of years, in the blink of an eye.
Another theory I've had about black holes is what if they actually have another point in the universe where all of that material which is sucked up gets ejected? A white hole; maybe a quasar?
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Your cosmology statement link did not work.
I believe nothing is infinite potential. The existence of a potential implies the probability of a kinetic. Nothingness is pure unbounded infinity. The infinite potential was so great that it could not contain itself as nothingness. It had to spill over into a world of form. The big bang is hardly a fraction of the potential of infinite nothingness.