Court Rules US Taxpayers, Not BP Or Transocean, Are Liable For Gulf Oil Spill Clean Up Costs

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posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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What's amazing is that court house is not a smoldering ruin now.... How far will the people let them push is the question...
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posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by GodIsPissed
This is pure BULL CRAP!

So it's okay for them to dump-er spill oil in our oceans and not be responsible for it?

It's okay if you're rich you can do anything!


You should catch up on this story. BP has already paid out huge sums, including the 20 billion set up to compensate victims and pay for cleanup. That on top of many billions in costs from their own cleanup and payouts to victims separate from the fund approved by Obama.

BP is not owned by the rich by the way. It is mostly owned by ordinary working people through their retirement funds. Most corporations are owned by ordinary people called stockholders. BP is Public.

Those of you who want to destroy BP actually want to destroy ordinary working people and take their retirement from them.

What happened here is that an employee or employees made some very bad decisions that caused the spill. Hate on them, not the innocent stockholders. Demand an accounting for the 20 billion under Obama's care. Where did it go?
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posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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Yes sir.

online.wsj.com...




posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Demoncreeper
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Yes sir.

online.wsj.com...



OK I found updated info. There is still almost 16 billion remaining in the fund after most claims have been paid out. The money is there just waiting for valid claims to be filed. I'd imagine the Judge knew this.

Anyone not filing a claim against the remaining 16 billion is likely up to no good. I'd think the Judge is just stopping the creeps piling on who likely have fraudulent or false claims that can not lay their hands on the remaining funds for legitimate claims.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:22 PM
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You mean BP was funded by Obama and his trusty little taxpayers account to coverup-er clean up.

And what did they do exactly to clean the spill up?



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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I'm pretty sure that is NOT what he meant at all.
Perhaps your opinion, theory, imagination and perception should not become the words of someone else. It makes it difficult to make any progress in getting a VALID point across.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by GodIsPissed
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You mean BP was funded by Obama and his trusty little taxpayers account to coverup-er clean up.

And what did they do exactly to clean the spill up?


No, BP voluntarily set up a 20 billion dollar account to cover claims. Only 4 billion in claims were filed. 16 billion is still sitting there. It all came from BP, not the taxpayers. The Obama Administration oversees the funds and the claims.

I'd say BP went above and beyond on this one. Nobody had to sue them for this, they just need to file a legitimate claim for their costs and losses.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555

Originally posted by GodIsPissed
This is pure BULL CRAP!

So it's okay for them to dump-er spill oil in our oceans and not be responsible for it?

It's okay if you're rich you can do anything!


You should catch up on this story. BP has already paid out huge sums, including the 20 billion set up to compensate victims and pay for cleanup. That on top of many billions in costs from their own cleanup and payouts to victims separate from the fund approved by Obama.

BP is not owned by the rich by the way. It is mostly owned by ordinary working people through their retirement funds. Most corporations are owned by ordinary people called stockholders. BP is Public.

Those of you who want to destroy BP actually want to destroy ordinary working people and take their retirement from them.

What happened here is that an employee or employees made some very bad decisions that caused the spill. Hate on them, not the innocent stockholders. Demand an accounting for the 20 billion under Obama's care. Where did it go?
edit on 6/21/2011 by Blaine91555 because: (no reason given)


So we all get to bail out more gamblers. I'm so sorry that people put their retirement money into their stocks, that is not my problem because I didn't and I shouldn't have to pay for some business's mess. That company should be bankrupt for what it did. Period. There is no amount of money that they currently have that can cover the damage they did. 20 billion is an insult compared to what this will cost the people of the united states (and has easily already cost economically).
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posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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Another example of the corruption of the US govt. at every level, thus screwing the US citizen. While Obama sits on the golf course like the inept president he is, government corruption goes unchecked and liberal ideology is advanced by his CZARS and Administration cronies making life more an more difficult for the American middle class. After all, with 40%+ not paying to taxes at all and the rich-bitch tax breaks, who do you think foots the bill.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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At the end of the day,americans are paying for the banks,why not bp as well ??

falling for the same old con trick

You cant vote these people out,they put themselves in power and they keep themselves in power,and get you to pay for it and give yourselves the illusion every few years that you are voting them in and out.

Just keep talking about it,thats all you'll do anyways,gd luck with it all



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
I'd imagine others have mentioned this by now, but BP set up a 20 billion dollar fund to cover damages with Obama's approval. This court decision is understandable entirely factoring that in.

My question would be, where did the 20 billion go and to whom? The 20 billion was on top of the actual clean up costs that were paid as the incident progressed.


Feinberg has received BP cleanup illness claims, denied them all
www.southernstudies.org...

One Year Later — BP Claims Process Still A Mess


1. Over 800,000 claims have been submitted to the Gulf Coast Claims Facility (GCCF) in the last year;

2. Over 50% of all claims have been denied with little or no explanation;

3. In Florida, the percentage of denied claims stands at more than 75%;

4. Only $4 billion (29%) of the $20 Billion claims fund has been paid out to people and business hurt by the spill;

The “Quick Pay” option forces an individual or business to forgo any future claim for a one time payout of $5,000 for individuals and $25,000 for businesses. It looks like, and Mr. Hood seems to agree, that the GCCF is denying massive amounts of legitimate claims that are supported with documentation and evidence (and far more valuable than $25,000), in the hopes that desperate individuals and businesses currently in a horrible economy will either just give up or take the “Quick Pay” (translation: cheap) Option.


www.mckytonlaw.com...

Feinberg Expects to Pay Out Only One-Fifth of Total BP Claims Fund
news.firedoglake.com...

Just lovely....



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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So, I can stab someone and break a knife off inside them, but as long as I take them to the hospital and have the wound stitched up so that it's no longer bleeding ... then I'm not liable for all the damage the knife shard that is still in the person does to them .... right?

Thanks for clearing that up.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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are you waiting for someone to explain it to you?


Yes. and you succeeded greatly I thank you sir.


This is what ATS has become for me, I literally have to spend hours sifting through threads to find one that is
worth 2 $h!*s. Bottom line, most conspiracy related threads on here are not of the quality they used to be, there is disinformation(duh) and there are so many trolls. The confusion is great, and it further solidifies my belief there are CIA(or other intel agencies) at work here on ATS, deliberately throwing us off of the truth. But...There are still many members here whose threads changed my entire perception of reality over the years. I love you guys, may the light of the Sun God shine on you.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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The courts current trend favoring corporations is a tell-tell sign that our government is ruled by the corporate elite. The supreme court just ruled with Walmart and threw out the gender bias class-action suit. This will mean new limits on nationwide class-action suits. Justice for the people is a thing of the past.

America's immediate future isn't looking so good.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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This has only to do with 3rd party claims, that had no reason to put a claim in.



The lawsuits dismissed on Thursday belonged to the D1 pleading bundle. D1 bundle claims were filed by third-party organizations that alleged environmental damages under the Clean Water Act; the Endangered Species Act; the Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act; and the Emergency Planning and Community Right-To-Know Act.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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Nearly all of the regulation fails were down to the US government, the rigs name was only under BP's name but run by the government.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by WeRpeons
Justice for the people is a thing of the past.

America's immediate future isn't looking so good.


You can still have "Justice" as long as you can afford to buy it.

If you think there should be "justice for all" you are a socialist and a freeloader!

Get a job, earn a few million and buy your own Judge!



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by kirstiehughes
Nearly all of the regulation fails were down to the US government, the rigs name was only under BP's name but run by the government.


Links please. like this.




Deepwater Horizon semi-submersible drilling rig.

Deepwater Horizon was an ultra-deepwater, dynamically positioned, semi-submersible offshore oil drilling rig owned by Transocean. Built in 2001 in South Korea by Hyundai Heavy Industries, the rig was commissioned by R&B Falcon, which later became part of Transocean, registered in Majuro, Marshall Islands, and leased to BP plc from 2001 until September 2013.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by David9176

Court Rules US Taxpayers, Not BP Or Transocean, Are Liable For Gulf Oil Spill Clean Up Costs




If anyone had any doubts of how corrupt our judicial system is, they should start to wake up now.

Most of these judges are in the pockets of the richest corporations. The laws are read in their favor.

So many people have had their livelihoods ruined by the oil spill. Businesses dependent on clean Gulf waters are now worthless. Residential property values have been hit hard in Gulf areas, first because of repeated hurricanes (house insurance became cost prohibitive -- especially for waterfront properties) and then the spill.

The Gulf is still leaking oil. The enormous damage done to ecosystems from extremely toxic Corexit cannot even be measured at this point. It will be years, decades even before the full extent of the damage becomes clear to all.
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posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 06:33 PM
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Par for the course





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