Court Rules US Taxpayers, Not BP Or Transocean, Are Liable For Gulf Oil Spill Clean Up Costs, page 2


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reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 10:01 PM by Xcathdra
reply to post by David9176


Wow... I am all for starting a petition demanding a recall on that FEderal Judge. If the US Taxpayers are going to get the bill, then I say we pass that cost onto BP and any affilitated company with stipulation they are not allowed to change any prices to offset that cost...

I for one am sick and tired of court decisions like this.


reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 10:43 PM by BanMePlz
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This is despicable.. Is this what our justice and legal system is good for? Letting ludicrous criminals run free to rampage the world while the people clean up their mess and pay for their mayhem?



reply posted on 21-6-2011 @ 03:26 AM by TheUniverse
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reply posted on 21-6-2011 @ 07:35 AM by LargeFries
reply to post by David9176


Online I've read that Exxon has not paid back one cent of the cost to clean up the Valdez spill which decimated the Prince William Sound in Alaska. The cost was to the US taxpayer. So reading that BP is allowed to bend over millions of American taxpayers comes with no surprise.

As for me - I will never buy Exxon or BP product again. Screw them. Stopped buying Exxon many years ago. Stopped buying BP during their recent debacle.

YOUR SPENDING DOLLARS ARE YOUR MOST IMPORTANT VOTE.


reply posted on 21-6-2011 @ 09:34 AM by mudbeed
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Hey I want to say that after doing some digging, this seems to be incorrect and from a single source

This is what I found digging into this:

"Here's the actual order: www.laed.uscourts.gov...(D1Complaint).pdf

As I read it (and I am NOT a lawyer), a complaint was denied on several points, including many due to lack of standing of the plaintiffs. Another point, a request for an injuction, was answered as follows:

To sustain their claims for injunctive relief, Plaintiffs must show that the injuries they allege will be redressed if they prevail. Although an injunction need not return the waters to the pre-spill state, it must, however, provide some benefit or reduction in pollution.
...
In this case, no such benefit may be achieved by the Court's injunction. In fact, the injunction at this stage would be useless, as not only is there no ongoing release from the well, but there is also no viable offshore facility from which any release could possibly occur. The Macondo well is dead, and what remains of the Deepwater Horizon vessel is on the ocean floor, where it capsized and sank in 5,000 feet of water.

And this:

Moreover, BP and the agencies comprising the Unified Area Command have been and are cleaning up the Gulf of Mexico. An injury is not redressable by a citizen suit when the injury is already being redressed.

As I read it, the complaint failed on multiple points. It does not say anything even resembling

... injury stopped the moment the well was sealed and that the Federal Government, aka The US Taxpayer, is now liable for clean up costs along with any damages caused by deficiencies of the cleanup of the Gulf Of Mexico.

IF a court did issue a ruling/statement as was alleged here, I would be jumping up and down and screaming foul to any and all who would listen. But it doesn't sound like that's at all what happened. Not at all.

Not every lawsuit filed is valid - even when the defendant is filthy, dirty, guilty of many bad things.

I mean no disrespect, but this should be taken down; it is simply not true or accurate"

So I think we are looking at some Disinfo.


reply posted on 21-6-2011 @ 10:29 AM by armtx
Originally posted by kro32
This isn't getting play in the media because it's a fairly irrelevant ruling. Did you guys even bother to read the article and what this lawsuit pertains too or are you waiting for someone to explain it to you.

The suit was a broad based attempt by environemental groups to sue BP over cleanup issues but the judge ruled that since this is being handled under the direction of the federal government and since BP has already and still is contributing to that effort there is no basis for the suit. He also states that since the well is dead and there is no further oil leakage that the suit does not hold merit for any future problems either.

People are still allowed to bring lawsuits under other federal guidlines if they have cases however so this ruling only pertains to one issue and the judge ruled wisely. Don't forget that BP already paid a very hefty sum to get this clean-up done so they've honored previous court rulings which is why the court negated this one.


You hit the nail on the head and to take it a little further, it has been reported the more than half of the claims in the bundle are people who have been paid 10's of thousands of dollars already and are merely trying to milk this cow as long as they can milk it.

I spend a good bit of time fishing the marshes down here over the past 6 years and you saw oil from time to time befor ethe well exploded. Im not saying it is right, but it is reality. I guess the coast of LA pays the price for every American to live a certain lifestyle.

You are welcome.


reply posted on 21-6-2011 @ 10:37 AM by kellynap43
reply to post by whaaa


Your joking right? America is the most hostile place to start a business because of the high demands for salary increases, beneftis, business taxes, property taxes, etc. Why do you think so many businesses are leaving?(Maytag) If anything this country has become anti business, anti corporation. Look at both sides before you speak.
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