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reply posted on 1-8-2011 @ 01:22 PM by ShaunHatfield
Originally posted by truthseekr1111
Originally posted by ShaunHatfield
reply to
post by MrWendal



We saw the impact.. to answer the poster above..
I have typed out my description of the day 10 different times under 2 different names here on ATS. I do not have any plans to get into a pecker measuring contest over facts and theories. Believe me or don't, I dont give 2 flips, just know that all of you with these facts, are like me showing you the bible as proof of god.. complete BS!!!



no, but if you're gonna come to a discussion board and tell a story that supports the OS, you better be prepared to answer questions and give more details without attitude or defensiveness.

So no doubt if you "SAW" the impact, you should be able to corroborate the SAME basic details that others had ESPECIALLY Mike the reporter.

you should also be able to give a detailed POV which so far i haven't seen yet.

be able to address Lloyds obvious contradictions and virtual confession

be able to address the hole before the collapse and fact the plane didn't fit.

be able to address the contradictory testimony of witnesses

why the lawn was virtually untouched

show exactly how and where CIT's presentation and argument is wrong on about the NOC flight path.

explain how the punch out hole was created

and where your witness account was recorded and if not, why.


If your'e a legitimate witness, these basic issues should be very easy to do







You started out strong on what you "expected" from me, then ended delusional.

Below is the only "reasonable" expectation you listed. The rest are the ramblings of a seeming overly emotional person.


you should also be able to give a detailed POV which so far i haven't seen yet.


Then you fell into lala land with your "expectations"
You see... you seem to think that I care what you think or expect. You feel that I "should be prepared to" explain certain things to you. Lets clear this up... I dont OWE you any explanation. I offered my details on a previous thread and gave my old user name to search it.

To sit here and repeat it, is something I will not do. AGAIN, remember, I don't care what you think and put ZERO importance on your opinion. If I want to come into a thread and make a statement and NOT back it up, that is my prerogative. I didn't have an attitude, or was I defensive... <-- ok maybe a little defensive.

It is a given that every one of you truthers will want to hear the same thing over and over again... You will pick apart anything and everything, if it disagrees with your "theory"... I am over it.. I have had this same conversation several times. Every single time, has been on ATS.

Lets look over where you "jumped the shark"

be able to address Lloyds obvious contradictions and virtual confession.
Who is Loyd, and HTF am I supposed to address his contradictions?

be able to address the hole before the collapse and fact the plane didn't fit.
HOW THE #$%^ does being a witness, qualify me to be an engineer or physicist?

be able to address the contradictory testimony of witnesses
Again, as a witness, I am supposed to be a psychologist??? Are you ok? Really, has this enveloped your life?

why the lawn was virtually untouched
Ok, ok, I get this one... As a witness I am 100% obligated to be a landscape engineer AND a physicist.. Thats logical and reasonable.

show exactly how and where CIT's presentation and argument is wrong on about the NOC flight path.

I need to know... Do you really expect a witness to an accident to be able to explain all of these things? Or are you just grand standing trying to look intelligent? Let me assure you, neither have been accomplished here.

explain how the punch out hole was created
Again..... Witness = engineer/physicist?? Really? Do you employ logic...ever?

and where your witness account was recorded and if not, why.
Now we are back on track!

If I knew then, what I know now, you bet I would have gotten my face on the news... BUT, never did I think that one day, I would have to prove that a plane hit the pentagon. I lived in Dale City... Its a good size city in VA... I know or knew 10 to 15 people from either my neighborhood or work that SAW the plane hit the building.

Those roads were PACKED the buildings were packed... HUNDREDS of people have come out saying they saw the plane hit the building... Yet you decide to side with fantasy and delusion for your answers. You cant go to a bar or club in Northern VA without running into someone that saw the plane hit the building... At least, that is how it seemed, right after the 11th.

Until I joined this site, I had ZERO clue that this was an issue...



I see what you did..
1. logical question...
Insert illogical garbage here
2. logical question...

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reply posted on 28-9-2011 @ 12:20 AM by LilDudeissocool
Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to
post by Immortalgemini527



I don't mean to offend here and I might be wrong, but you and SkepticandBeliever legitimately sound like you're the same person, almost as if you have two accounts and you're pretending to be two people because you feel that will give your arguments more punch. , and coincidentally seem to post at the same time on the same thread. On top of that you both seem to attack people's credibility by emphasizing how outrageous the idea of such a conspiracy theory is without really providing any evidence to back up your claims, other than your opinion, and more attacks.

The idea of you logging onto two different accounts is ironic since you're making "mental health" jokes about truthers as if they're delusional and insane for believing in a theory with a good amount of evidence to back up, while you're switching between accounts to back up your YouTube animation video.
edit on 21-6-2011 by TupacShakur because: To edit my post


I am currently on 11 forums, 3 of the forums I have been on for over 9 years, 5 of them a little over 7 years and 3 of them a little under 3 years.



527 and bad handwriting is my signature on all of the forums I am on, I make sure because no one can duplicate the way I write and to make sure that nobody trys to steal or play like they are me.

Sileni527

The last prophet 527

Immortal undercover 527

Immortal Gemini 527

Undercover gemini527

Immortal legend 527

Demigod 527

I have been called all types of names and trolls under the sun in the span of 11 years…but I have never been accused of having two accounts…NEVER!

If you look at all my threads, I have never said the things to any poster like skeptic and believer has said, not saying what he says is wrong, I just do not roll like that.

I do not know and I do not care what skeptic and believer might have said to piss you off, but it has nothing to do with me.
Skeptic and believer is not me and I am not him, in fact I just added him as a friend yesterday because he keeps it 100 and keeps it real and he or she is funny as hell to me.

I am a gemini, and i am so proud to be one that 527-May 27th will always follow me until my last breath on this earth.For me to use another name to prove something is so...mortal and so not kool to other people that follow me from other sites to see whats going on the ats.



TextYou two guys both believe the OS, which on this website is a small fraction


i understand the concept of me beieng the smaller majority on this forum because i dont believe what 99.2% believe on the ats,it holds no water what so ever pertaining to 2 accounts



TextOn top of that you both seem to attack people's credibility by emphasizing how outrageous the idea of such a conspiracy theory is without really providing any evidence to back up your claims, other than your opinion, and more attacks.




TextThe idea of you logging onto two different accounts is ironic since you're making "mental health" jokes about truthers as if they're delusional and insane for believing in a theory with a good amount of evidence to back up,


Can you provide proof of me saying this,thanks,and have a nice day.



Text"mental health" jokes about truthers as if they're delusional and insane for believing in a theory with a good amount of evidence to back up,





I shall attempt to explain the sock puppetry




reply posted on 29-9-2011 @ 01:56 PM by LogiosHermes27
reply to post by LilDudeissocool



Does this person go around and accuse people falsely on the regular, is something wrong with him?



reply posted on 30-9-2011 @ 02:12 PM by LilDudeissocool
Originally posted by Immortalgemini527

527 and bad handwriting is my signature on all of the forums I am on, I make sure because no one can duplicate the way I write and to make sure that nobody trys to steal or play like they are me.

Sileni527

The last prophet 527

Immortal undercover 527

Immortal Gemini 527

Undercover gemini527

Immortal legend 527

Demigod 527




You forgot "undercover alien."

As in website
www.realufos.net...

I just visited the site browsing the latest postings because I dig the triangle stuff... swimply fwascinating. But this time I seen a vid that was quit surprising.

How was it planned? Maybe like this...

Please call in with this question bla bla and a follow up bla

I'll answer it bla bla bla

So I can post a comment vid using the footage bla bla bla

Two birds, one stone, promote my website, and promote myself with lots of bla bla bla.


reply posted on 30-9-2011 @ 02:45 PM by dl2one
Reply to post by Immortalgemini527


Wow,a cartwheeling 747 managed to fit inside that hole and disintegrate? Never thought about that one. Time to go see if there are any youtube vids of acrobatuc 747s




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reply posted on 1-10-2011 @ 07:59 AM by LilDudeissocool
reply to post by dl2one




That cat can't speak. You'll have to speak to Immoralgemini527's agent, LogiosHermes27.


reply posted on 2-10-2011 @ 09:26 AM by Cassius666
I just wanted to add this.

www.oilempire.us...

You have to ask yourself, why havent there been books about the "collapse" of the wtc 7 translated in 28 languages.



reply posted on 3-10-2011 @ 07:23 PM by LogiosHermes27
reply to post by userid1


Just out of curiousity, do you know the difference between and entry hole and an exit hole?





reply posted on 4-10-2011 @ 08:36 AM by dillweed
reply to post by userid1



If I were you, I'd be very careful when referring to holes.


reply posted on 4-10-2011 @ 01:06 PM by GenRadek
reply to post by dillweed



And are you going to add anything significant to the debate, or are you just going to be a troll, buzzing around and being a nuisance? Because if you are going to troll, then buzz off. Adults are speaking.


reply posted on 4-10-2011 @ 01:23 PM by anoncoholic
Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
I am so glad we can finally put this conspiracy to rest. This video shows 100% conclusive Evidence that an airplane hit the pentagon. This video shows point by point and even shows you the plans wreckage inside and out.
The 911 pentagon conspiracy is finally over with.




edit on 20-6-2011 by Immortalgemini527 because: (no reason given)


A missile would not have hit so many objects going towards the pentagon if it was a missile.
edit on 20-6-2011 by Immortalgemini527 because: (no reason given)


ever been behind a jet engine? And yet the grass wasn't disturbed?? Jet wash can peel pavement and yet the grass is still intact... as far as the light poles do you know what the single highest cause of beaver mortality is? Falling trees.

Maybe there were some adept little beavers running around that day gathering video tapes and dropping light poles?

I suppose you don't want us to remember the C130 transport reportedly "climbing" at the Pentagon that morning. Not so impossible to dump wreckage and yet the engines themselves disappeared somewhere didnt they... oh wait, those heavy engines wee under that blue tarp they carried away weren't they?

I am so glad you are so obviously the expert on plane wreckage... especially an animated rendering of a theory. Funny the actual film from the locations around the Pentagon haven't surfaced yet... wonder why?

Silence speaks volumes...


reply posted on 4-10-2011 @ 02:49 PM by userid1
reply to post by anoncoholic



1 - There are plenty of pics showing debris (including engine parts) - all you have to do is look for them.
2 - With the nose pointed down - wouldn't the jet wash be point *up*
3 - So...a C130 dumped debris on the outside lawn, inside the building, and in the C-ring exit hole - ALL without being seen by one eyewitness to the impact...Now THAT'S some good flying right there!
4 - Actually, some of the videos *have* been released. Again, something you'd probably know - if you bothered to look...
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