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reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 04:57 PM by SkepticAndBeliever
Originally posted by AlexKintner
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Yes, I know. Troll trolling troll yada yada

Think is my link was directly on topic and you gave the topic a greater scope by bringing in a generalization and resorting to character attacks that needed to be addressed. Were you trying to de-rail the thread spewing venom at one side?

Pretty classy.



Well when its a few OSers vs 34939049 truthers you think I have time to cover every persons post? Would you care to link the article again so I can review it?
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reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 05:02 PM by AlexKintner
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I would hope you would at least take the time to review the posts you respond to. Here's a link to where the link is Magical Link Containment Page

I also disagree about the ratio of "Truthers" to debunkers
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reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 05:06 PM by Immortalgemini527
Originally posted by ANOK
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post by pajoly



Someone seeing, or hearing, a plane go over their head is not proof it hit the pentagon.

This was black ops, they wanted people to think a plane hit the pentagon.


So your basically saying that the people was seeing things...or cgi...or some big black ops holographic animation thingy in broad day light, loll...ok


reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 05:19 PM by Immortalgemini527


reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 05:55 PM by Immortalgemini527
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lol,your a strong believer they need help huh.

It is sad the way allot of these ats poster prey on the brains of the conspirators just for a few stars, and you can tell which ones do it.
Some posters are so far gone they are excused from what they do , but some do threads just to feed them so they can get many stars, I guess that is why I average a foe every 2 weeks because the truth hurts.

Its sad that realism is dead and bs stays alive forever.
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reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 05:59 PM by Humint1
Um, lets see here now. 85 cameras at the Pentagon yet we were indulged with only a few frames of video that hardly show anything at all. Yet supposed "intelligent people" want to argue on the points of the 911 Report in which the Senior Counsel for the Commission, John Farmer called the final report "a lie". The Commission who was hastily thrown together refused to listen to or include dissenting viewpoints of what happened and also failed to collect evidence that was prepared for them by a variety of agencys.

Yet some "intelligent people" want to argue this as "conclusive proof" of what happened at the Pentagon.

Aside from the childish names such as "truther" or "skeptic" or whatever the name of the week is for people who do not have opinions that jive with anyone else's, one thing is very clear and that is that the evidence presented up to this point fails to convince many Americans and others around the world. The cherry picked storys from people hwo said they saw an airplane has been used in the government's defense yet those who stated they saw "something else" or described variances of aircraft were ignored.

Is this the caliber of "quality investigating" many of you really wish to defend?

People will believe what they want to despite mountains of evidence to the contrary or something as pitiful as shoddy video stills purporting to show an airliner. One question remains though:

Why are these guys picking up evidence from the biggest crime scene in history? Or are they placing it?

911 research

Everyone knows that you do not touch evidence. Yet these two have a different agenda obviously.

Below is the purported impact point before it collasped. Columns blown outward. No "wing damage" indications. Yet we are supposed to believe that an airliner crashed into the building at this point? Not hardly!



Wider view below. No aircraft went through here.



Looks more like Slobodan Milosevic's house after Clinton launched a cruise missile at it during the Bosnia conflict.


And for the hoopla about the light poles, if an airliner hit as many as this one was to have supposed to have hit, the damn thing would have crashed well before the building. Damage to the wings would have rendered it unairworthy.
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reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 06:13 PM by michael1983l
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With all due respect to you, you know nothing about flying large aircraft. On an airfield a 767 would utilise at leat 6 different types of landing aides to do so EVEN in broad day light.

First of all the pilot needs an aide called an ILS (instrument landing sytem) to electronically give him reference points to his angle of elevation (3 degrees minimum for a large aircraft like this), center line in reference to landing location and distance to touchdown.

The utilise also a primary and secondary radar on the ground with details communicated to them from air traffic control about wind speed, altitude, poition in relation to the earth.

They would utilise in the abscence of these aides a localised Precision Approach Radar, where the Air Traffic Controller would get the information and "talk" the pilot down.

In perfect conditions with all these tools available pilots still abort at the point of no return (200ft).

I will reiterate given the lack of all of these aides for the pilot and his abscence of experience flying this aircraft and minimal hours of tutoring on a light aircraft. It is impossible. Plus his angle of elevation was far too low and his engines would have stalled way before he got to where he was.

If you provide me with actual facts rather than you opinion then please reply, otherwise don't bother if you don't mind.


reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 06:18 PM by Immortalgemini527
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Your correct >your right >your the truth,but who ever landed the airplane into the pentagon,it must of been his lucky day i guess,i guess no pilot in the wworld could of did that huh?


reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 06:18 PM by Humint1
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The missile can be almost traced perfectly in this photo. But in the video released from the gov, there is no airplane at all.



And again, better feasibility than some old edited government video that shows nothing. Well, except for the outline of the Global Hawk that is.



Source: 911 Research
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