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Prestigious doctor: US nuclear 'Baby valley of death,' Millions to die

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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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Greetings:

More of today's news to help put things in perspective.


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That level of water will inundate the pumps and generators at this facility.

Barring the dam failure, there is no way to resupply the plant with the diesel needed to keep the generators running by land.

Not sure where the tanks are right now but I sure as hell hope they thought to put them well above ground so that they can be refueled by watercraft.
edit on 27-6-2011 by SFA437


Do you mean these tanks?

Many containers of fuel to power pumps were washed away after breach at Ft. Calhoun nuke plant


Event Number: 46989
Facility: FORT CALHOUN
Event Date: 06/26/2011
Event Time: 10:45 [CDT]

Event Text
OFFSITE NOTIFICATION DUE TO PETROLEUM RELEASE TO THE MISSOURI RIVER

“At approximately 0125 CDT, the AquaDam providing enhanced flood protection for Fort Calhoun Station Unit 1 failed. This resulted in [color=limegreen]approximately 100 gallons of petroleum being released into the river after a protective barrier was breached and many fuel containers were washed out to the river. The fuel/oil containers were staged around the facility to supply fuel for pumps which remove water within the flood containment barriers. The spill was reported to the State of Nebraska at 10:45 AM CDT on 6/26/2011.

What were these fuel containers that only 100 gallons were contained in "many?"

Were they those red plastic 5-gallon containers and were just sitting next to the pumps when the water came in?

How much water does it take to float one of these puppies over the "containment barrier" into the river? (Let's see... gas about 6.1 lbs/gal x 5 = about 30.5 lbs to float away - about 35 lbs if it was 5 gallons of diesel.)

What happened to "being prepared for any eventuality?"

17 June 2011
‘Event’ reported at Ft. Calhoun nuke plant: 'Potential flooding issue in the Intake Structure'
— “There is one penetration of concern” that could impact water pumps


Operations identified a potential flooding issue in the Intake Structure 1007 ft. 6 in. level. The area of concern is a the hole in the floor at the 1007 ft. 6 in. level where the relief valve from FP-1A discharge pipe goes through the raw pump bay and discharges into the intake cell. There is one penetration of concern. [color=limegreen]Flooding through this penetration could have impacted the ability of the station’s Raw Water (RW) pumps to perform their design accident mitigation functions.

Efforts are in progress to seal the penetration.(...)

Again with the cooling pumps... and that was ten (10) days ago.

16 June 2011
Licensee Event Report 2011-003, Revision 1, for the Fort Calhoun Station, NRC, May 16, 2011


As a result of a Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) inspection conducted from January 1 to June 21, 2010, the NRC determined that Fort Calhoun Station (FCS) did not have adequate procedures to protect the intake structure and auxiliary building against external flooding events.
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As a result of the penetrations not being sealed, the intake structure was vulnerable to water inflow during an extreme flooding event. This [color=limegreen]inflow had the potential to affect the operability of both trains of safety related raw water pumps (ultimate heat sink).


On February 4, 2011, an eight (8) hour report was made under 10 CFR 50.72 (b)(3)(v)(D) to the NRC Headquarters Operation Office (HOO) at 1717 CST (Event Number (EN) 46594). [color=limegreen]The report should have been made on September 9, 2009.

Only five (5) months later. It almost seem as though this facility is being run by the inmates - or there is a complete lack of pride in work across the board - nobody gives a damn and the peeps are there only to get a paycheck. That lackluster attitude might work in a car wash, but this is a nuclear facility!

An interesting document:


NRC FORM 366A (10-2010)

During identification and evaluation of flood barriers, unsealed through-wall penetrations in the outside wall of the intake, auxiliary and chemistry and radiation protection buildings were identified that are below the licensing basis flood elevation.

A summary of the root causes included:

1) a weak procedure revision process;

2) insufficient oversight of work activities associated with external flood matters;

3) ineffective identification, evaluation and resolution of performance deficiencies related to external flooding;

4) and "safe as is” mindsets relative to external flooding events.


(...)
SAFETY SIGNIFICANCE

The [color=limegreen]Fort Calhoun Station is required to be protected from flooding within the station’s licensing basis. The safety-related equipment required to mitigate the consequences of an accident were affected by these findings.

The openings could have jeopardized the ability of the safety-related equipment to perform their design basis function during an accident. Other methods of removing decay heat and mitigating the consequences of a flooding event were available.

Interesting... so the NRC indicates that there are other methods of removing decay heat.

Just what are these "other methods" that do not involve pumps powered by electricity?

And why are they not being used in Fukushima in any way?

Other headlines to peruse, if one so chooses:

27 June 2011

100% chance of reactor core damage if floodwaters went above 1010 ft. at Ft. Calhoun nuke plant, NRC said in 2010
— River now around 1,007 ft. and expected to rise

Now, that is a fearmonger headline... hmmmmmmmmm...

Another false flag to divert attention from what's really happening?

This to divert attention from:

1) The radiation that is now threatening to harm every living thing in the United States forever.

2) The dams upriver as far as Montana from Fort Calhoun Nuclear Plant and Cooper Nuclear Plant about to flood.

3) The dumping of millions and millions of gallons of highly-radiated water into the Pacific Ocean by TEPCO in Japan.

4) The report of contamination 7.5 million times the legal limit in Fukushima area - and that is only what they are admitting to.

5) The fact that [color=limegreen]all the foodstuffs in the fields in North America are being radiated on a daily basis - 24 hours a day - and there is no end in sight!

6) The fact that virtually all of the land-based food and now the sea food has been radiated to some degree in Japan.

7) The fact that an area the size of Manhattan (about 17% of Japan) is now uninhabitable because of elevated radiation levels.

I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!

There is no safe level of radionuclide exposure, whether from food, water or other sources.

[color=limegreen]Period.

Exposure to radionuclides, such as iodine-131 and cesium-137, increases the incidence of cancer. For this reason, every effort must be taken to minimize the radionuclide content in food and water.

via Physicians for Social Responsibility, psr.org

Thank you for your time and consideration.

These challenges to life and sanity on this planet must be met with clear minds and sound hearts - onward through the fog!

In Peace, Love & Light

tfw


Epilogue:


The United States will be destroyed, land and people, by atomic bombs and radioactivity. Only the Hopis and their homeland will be preserved as an oasis to which refugees will flee. Bomb shelters are a fallacy. It is only materialistic people who seek to make shelters. Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the great shelter of life. There is no shelter for evil. Those who take no part in the making of world division by ideology are ready to resume life in another world, be they Black, White, Red, or Yellow race. They are all one, brothers.

The True White Brother will bring with him two great, intelligent and powerful helpers, one of whom will have a sign of a swastika (a masculine symbol of purity), and the sign of the sun. The second great helper will have the sign of a celtic cross with red lines (representing female life blood) between the arms of the cross.

[color=limegreen]When the Great Purification is near, these helpers will shake the earth first for a short time in preparation. After they shake the earth two times more, they will be joined by the True White Brother, who will become one with them and bring the Purification Day to the world. All three will help the "younger brother" (the Hopi and other pure-hearted people) to make a better world. In the prophecies, the two helpers are designated by the Hopi word for "population," as if they were large groups of people.

The True White Brother and his helpers will show the people of earth a great new life plan that will lead to everlasting life. The earth will become new and beautiful again, with an abundance of life and food. Those who are saved will share everything equally. All races will intermarry and speak one tongue and be a family.


"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease."


The signs are interpreted as follows:

The First Sign is of guns.

The Second Sign is of the pioneers' covered wagons.

The Third Sign is of longhorn cattle. The Fourth Sign describes the railroad tracks.

The Fifth Sign is a clear image of our electric power and telephone lines.

The Sixth Sign describes concrete highways and their mirage-producing effects.

The Seventh Sign foretells of oil spills in the ocean.

The Eighth Sign clearly indicates the "Hippy Movement" of the 1960s.

The Ninth Sign was the U.S. Space Station Skylab, which fell to Earth in 1979.
According to Australian eye-witnesses, it appeared to be burning blue.

The Hopi also predicted that when the "heart" of the Hopi land trust is dug up, great disturbances will develop in the balance of nature, for the [color=limegreen]Hopi holy land is the microcosmic image of the entire planet; any violations of nature in the Four Corners region will be reflected and amplified all over the Earth.
Rainbow
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posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by earthdude
It looks like in a decade or two Japan will have a very nice wildlife preserve.

wildlife comes back

I think those who are going for the fearmongering doctor's take don't realize how large this planet is.


And I think proponents of nuke power don't realize how small this planet is.

Small and connected.... and the only home we have. Most animals don't crap where they eat and sleep.

We ignore doctors and trust the nuke physicists (who are getting paid by the industry) at our own peril.

Chernobyl data



Doctors understand these dangers. We work hard to try to save the life of a child dying of leukemia. We work hard to try to save the life of a woman dying of metastatic breast cancer. And yet the medical dictum says that for incurable diseases, the only recourse is prevention. There’s no group better prepared than doctors to stand up to the physicists of the nuclear industry. Still, physicists talk convincingly about “permissible doses” of radiation. They consistently ignore internal emitters — radioactive elements from nuclear power plants or weapons tests that are ingested or inhaled into the body, giving very high doses to small volumes of cells. They focus instead on generally less harmful external radiation from sources outside the body, whether from isotopes emitted from nuclear power plants, medical X-rays, cosmic radiation or background radiation that is naturally present in our environment.

edit on 29-6-2011 by Wertwog because: birds and the bees and the flowers and the trees ... ah, ain't it sweet?



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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interesting hypothesis. does kinda make you think. it makes as much sense as anything else out there.



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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Revealed: British government's plan to play down Fukushima



Leaked emails show PR campaign was launched to protect UK nuclear power plans after tsunami in Japan.

Internal emails seen by the Guardian show how the business and energy departments worked closely behind the scenes with the multinational companies EDF Energy, Areva and Westinghouse to try to ensure the accident did not derail their plans for a new generation of nuclear stations in the UK.

"This has the potential to set the nuclear industry back globally," wrote one official at the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (BIS), whose name has been redacted. "We need to ensure the anti-nuclear chaps and chapesses do not gain ground on this. We need to occupy the territory and hold it. We really need to show the safety of nuclear."


[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jun/30/british-government-plan-play-down-fukushima?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter]source[/u rl]

But hey, let's continue believing official data and statements.



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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Meanwhile in America, no evidence of any coverup.



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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No, its clear to me that you need a hundred mutated rabbits and babies on your plate to realize that there might be something wrong.



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Meanwhile, on U.S. soil, radiation began to show up in samples of milk tested in California, just one month after the plants were damaged.

Radiation tests conducted since the nuclear disaster in Japan have detected radioactive iodine and cesium in milk and vegetables produced in California. According to tests conducted by scientists at the UC Berkeley Department of Nuclear Engineering, milk from grass fed cows in Sonoma County was contaminated with cesium 137 and cesium 134. Milk sold in Arizona, Arkansas, Hawaii, Vermont and Washington has also tested positive for radiation since the accident.

Additionally, drinking water tested in some U.S. municipalities also shows radioactive contamination. Is the fallout from Fukushima Daichi falling on us? Yes, it is.

Thanks to the jet stream air currents that flow across the Pacific Ocean, the U.S. is receiving a steady flow of radiation from Fukushima Daichi. And while many scientists say that the levels of contamination in food pose no significant threat to health, scientists are unable to establish any actual safe limit for radiation in food. Detection of radioactive iodine 131, which degrades rapidly, in California milk samples shows that the fallout from Japan is reaching the U.S. quickly.

According to the U.S.-based group of medical doctors Physicians for Social Responsibility (PSR), no amount of man-made radiation in water and food is safe. “There is no safe level of radionuclide exposure, whether from food, water or other sources, period,” said Jeff Patterson, DO, immediate past president of PSR, in late March. “Exposure to radionuclides, such as iodine 131 and cesium 137, increases the incidence of cancer. For this reason, every effort must be taken to minimize the radionuclide content in food and water.”

Doctor Alan Lockwood MD echoes this. “Consuming food containing radionuclides is particularly dangerous. If an individual ingests or inhales a radioactive particle, it continues to irradiate the body as long as it remains radioactive and stays in the body.”

“Children are much more susceptible to the effects of radiation and stand a much greater chance of developing cancer than adults,” states Andrew Kanter, MD, president of PSR’s board. “So it is particularly dangerous when they consume radioactive food or water.”


source


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posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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Do you have a more reputable source?



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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The Big Fukushima Lie Flies High

www.commondreams.org...



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"They’re lying,” says Dr. Janette Sherman, a toxicologist and contributing editor of the book Chernobyl: The Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment” published by the New York Academy of Sciences in 2009. Using medical data from between 1986 and 2004, its authors, a team of European scientists, determines that 985,000 people died worldwide from the radioactivity discharged from the 1986 Chernobyl disaster.

The Fukushima disaster will have a comparable toll, expects Dr. Sherman, who has conducted research into the consequences of radiation for decades. “People living closest to the plants who receive the biggest doses will get sick sooner. Those who are farther away and receive lesser doses will get sick at a slower rate,” she says.

We’ve known about radioactive isotopes for decades,” says Dr. Sherman. “I worked for the Atomic Energy Commission in the 1950s and we knew about the effects then. To ignore the biology is to our peril. This is not new science. Cesium-137 goes to soft tissue. Strontium-90 goes to the bones and teeth. Iodine-131 goes to the thyroid gland.” All have been released in large amounts in the Fukushima disaster since it began on March 11. There will inevitably be cancer and other illnesses­as well as genetic effects­as a result of the substantial discharges of radioactivity released from Fukushima, says Dr. Sherman. “People in Japan will be the most impacted but the radiation has been spreading worldwide and will impact life worldwide.”

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posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 05:29 PM
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Arnie & Helen Caldicott speak together

An excellent speech discussing the severe medical ramifications is given by Caldicott is on the last half of video 3 and all of vid 4.

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Arnie::

Unit 1 & 2 "Can't get any worse".
Measuring 400rems/hr (lethal within 1 hour).

Unit 3. "Still possibility of steam explosion".

Unit 3 & 4 SFP "Biggest fear is seismic aftershock". Are so structurally unsound a reasonably sized aftershock could bring them down. "If the buildings topple, my advice is to leave Japan".

______

Helen Caldicott: "There is no medical treatment. After it's in your body you can't get rid of it."










posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by adeclerk
reply to post by Mdv2
 


Meanwhile in America, no evidence of any coverup.


While not directly remade to radiation from Fukushima Daiichi, the quoted post (I've been quoting myself a lot lately, it would seem I've covered a lot of this material at some time or another as have a number if talented and knowledge le folks) does demonstrate official fudging when dealing with radiation data:


Originally posted by jadedANDcynical
Here is some THEY activity at it's finest for you and what's more is it's right here in America In MUD 105 precinct 9. I lived out that way up until about 6 or 7 years ago.


HOUSTON— Newly-released e-mails from the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality show the agency’s top commissioners directed staff to continue lowering radiation test results, in defiance of federal EPA rules.

The e-mails and documents, released under order from the Texas Attorney General to KHOU-TV, also show the agency was attempting to help water systems get out of formally violating federal limits for radiation in drinking water. Without a formal violation, the water systems did not have to inform their residents of the increased health risk.


Data tampering, plain and simple.

So here we have a confirmed case in the US of selective sampling and reporting of radiation contamination of public water supplies. And all of this took place well before Fukushima became a concern.


“It’s a conspiracy at the TCEQ of the highest order,” said Tom Smith, of the government watchdog group Public Citizen. “The documents have indicted the management of this commission in a massive cover-up to convince people that our water is safe to drink when it’s not.”


He said it, not me. In case anyone missed it, the TCEQ is the group mentioned the BP thread linked in my sig that had air quality monitors maxed out when power was lost to the oil and chemical refineries in my area.

At the time it was reported that the instruments were providing faulty data, now I'm not so sure we weren't expose to greater contamination than we were told about back on Chernobyl day here in Texas City.

Just exactly what was it that was manipulated?


However, the TCEQ would consistently subtract off each test’s margin of error from those results, making the actual testing results appear lower than they actually were. In MUD 105’s case, the utility was able to avoid violations for nearly 20 years, thanks to the TCEQ subtractions.


It seems like someone finally found a clue. Or a conscience.


In an e-mail from Oct. 30, 2007, a TCEQ drinking water team leader began questioning a senior director about if it would be appropriate for the state agency to stop subtracting the counting error from test results to comply with all federal regulations.


This concerned person was basically told, "yeah, we know we're supposed to be counting the other way but we don't like those numbers so we will keep doing it our way instead."

And why was it reported this way? No other reason than bureaucratic ass-covering:


However, the TCEQ also told the Council: “Under existing TCEQ policy, calculation of the violation accounts for the reporting error of each radionuclide analysis. Maintaining this calculation procedure will eliminate approximately 35 violations.”


Official-level carpet sweeping of data so as to not inform the public. And who is affected by this? Many people, there are a lot of people that reside in that area one of which is highlighted in the article:


As a result, the subtracting method continued and residents of MUD 105, like Brenda Haynes, were never sent a required notice of violation. That notice would have informed them about the excessive alpha radiation in their water.


Anyone want to guess what causes this sort of radiation? Uranium and plutonium among other isotopes.

Guess where that leads...


Haynes came down with thyroid cancer while living in the MUD 105 district and continued drinking the water even after she was diagnosed. Although she will never know for certain if the water had any connection with her illness, Haynes and her husband are angry that they never were given appropriate notice about the added risks she was taking into her body while sick.

“We were put at more risk than what we thought,” said Ian Haynes, who added he and his wife would have been making different choices about what they consumed had they been warned.


This is sounding eeriy familiar to the situation in Japan.

Here are some names to add to our list of snakes. Careful, these Texas rattlers are not going to be giving you the courtesy of a warnig rattle:


The Texas Water Advisory Council, which reviewed and discussed the TCEQ testimony at a meeting on June 7, 2004, was comprised of some of the highest ranking public officials in Texas. Minutes from the TWAC’s annual report reveal that the members present that day to hear about TCEQ’s plan included then-chair of the TCEQ Commission Kathleen Hartnett White, then-Agriculture Commissioner Susan Combs, General Land Office Commissioner Jerry Patterson, Sen. Robert Duncan, and other lawmakers and state leaders.


What do these yellow-bellied, good for nothing, low-down varmints have to say about this?


A spokesperson for Commissioner Patterson wrote KHOU-TV to say, “I’ve checked with Commissioner Patterson and sent him the report and he doesn’t remember “squat” about that committee,” wrote press secretary Jim Suydam. “He won’t be calling you.”


Sounds like "shut up and quit asking questions" to me. I wonder what else there is...


The meeting summary says that “Commissioner Combs stated small towns are going broke,” and further says, “Commissioner Combs asked what would the feds do if the state didn’t enforce.” The minutes indicate that someone at the meeting said there would be federal enforcement and loss of primacy.

At the same meeting, the summary says that the EPA had already warned that if Texas didn’t implement the rules, the EPA might take over the regulation of Texas water systems. The notes say that as a result “Texas will lose $66 million if delegation of the drinking water program is lost.”


This sounds a little like a scenario I've been discussing with a friend regarding possible fuure implications of what is happening right now on a global scale. It makes me wonder if this hasn't been done on purpose so as to intentionally bring down the EPA...

This paragraph

Then Chair of the TCEQ Commission Kathleen Hartnett White, who also sat on the Texas Water Advisory Council, says the decision to continue the subtraction was a good one.

Along with this one

“We did not believe the science of health effects justified EPA setting the standard where they did,” said White. She added, “I have far more trust in the vigor of the science that TCEQ assess, than I do EPA.”


tell me that the people who sit in positions of responsibility are out of touch and hear only what they want to hear as long as it supports what they think. I'm guessing the Ms Hartnett White has never heard of the dangers of internal exposure to alpha emitters.

Yet another example of politicians not wanting to be answerable to this whom they serve:


Lt. Governor David Dewhurst did not respond to written questions related to this story. The only comment from his office came from a spokesperson who wrote: “Just FYI—I’m told by our legislative staff that Texas Water Advisory Council was created in 2001, but was repealed in 2007. Evidently, the statutes creating the council made it clear that that it was an advisory board only, so they made no decisions.”


So all we have are the words of an unnamed spokesperson but the content is quite telling. If the Water Advisory Council cannot make or enforce decisions, what good is it?

Aologies for this monster post, this just hit really close to home for me.

TIS, my heart goes out to you. I cannot fathom what you're going through and can only say that my wife and I have discussed taking in a Japanese family and I can say that from your posts, yours would be high on the list. This artlce I've linked, though, shows that we might not be that much better off than you.

I like this writer, he reminds me of us ATSers in that he links his sources and has done a lot of research for his piece. Maybe I will invite him here.

Source for above quotes


So, if it's happened in the past what do you think the likelyhood is of something similar happening presently or in the future?



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by Aeons
My children's chances of having babies with mutations has been drastically increased for the want of a government that dictated a SINGLE FRACKING DIESEL GENERATOR at a nuclear plant with six reactors and a secret weapons program at it.

The hate I have for the arrogant gorilla brained "leaders" of business and government over this issue is deep. This industry has proven they cannot be trusted in anyway to regulate themselves.

I am not anti-nuclear. I am anti-stupidity. This disaster is PURE stupidity.


I could be wrong, but I think the Bechtel Corporation is a big player in building nuclear power plants. I hope that, if that is the case, their engineers have made enough safeguards to prevent this from happening. Of course, we are always in a learning curve. Nuclear power is a great idea, it just needs better safeguards. www.bechtel.com...
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posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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Big Pharma is gonna LOVE this 'accident' and of course if you are a sociopath and want your share prices to increase in value what better way than to increase disease, or at least capitalize on 'opportunities'. The fact that the public isn't being notified so they can take preventative measures is a clue to just how far the elites are willing to go to monetize human misery.



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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blogs.forbes.com...

Harm from Fukushima Radiation: A Matter Of Perspective


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Whether you choose to see the Fukushima fallout as safe depends on the perspective you adopt, as David J. Brenner, a professor of radiation biophysics and the director of the Center for Radiological Research at Columbia University Medical Center, elucidated recently in The Bulletin of The Atomic Scientists:

Should this worry us? We know that the extra individual cancer risks from this long-term exposure will be very small indeed. Most of us have about a 40 percent chance of getting cancer at some point in our lives, and the radiation dose from the extra radioactive cesium in the food supply will not significantly increase our individual cancer risks.

But there’s another way we can and should think about the risk: not from the perspective of individuals, but from the perspective of the entire population. A tiny extra risk to a few people is one thing. But here we have a potential tiny extra risk to millions or even billions of people. Think of buying a lottery ticket — just like the millions of other people who buy a ticket, your chances of winning are miniscule. Yet among these millions of lottery players, a few people will certainly win; we just can’t predict who they will be. Likewise, will there be some extra cancers among the very large numbers of people exposed to extremely small radiation risks? It’s likely, but we really don’t know for sure.

via Fukushima: What don’t we know? | Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.

A few people certainly will “win,” which is why it’s so interesting that the EPA’s standard for radionuclides in drinking water is so much more conservative than the FDA’s standard for radionuclides in food.

The two agencies anticipate different endurances of exposure—long-term in the EPA’s view, short-term in FDA’s. But faced with the commercial implications of its actions, FDA tolerates a higher level of mortality than EPA does.

FDA has a technical quibble with that last sentence. FDA spokesman Siobhan Delancey says: "Risk coefficients (one in a million, two in ten thousand) are statistically based population estimates of risk. As such they cannot be used to predict individual risk and there is likely to be variation around those numbers. Thus we cannot say precisely that “one in a million people will die of cancer from drinking water at the EPA MCL” or that “two in ten thousand people will die of cancer from consuming food at the level of an FDA DIL.” These are estimates only and apply to populations as a whole.

The government, while assuring us of safety, comforts itself in the abstraction of the population-wide view, but from Dr. Brenner’s perspective, the population-wide view is a lottery and someone’s number may come up.

Let that person decide whether we should be alarmed.
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posted on Jul, 20 2011 @ 05:22 AM
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For your information:

Lake Louise, Canada:



Multiple videos have been released showing high levels of radiation in Canada as the corporate media continues to cover up the real dangers posed by the Fukushima nuclear disaster.

The tests were taken in multiple places in Canada including Lake Louise BC, Kelowna BC, Red Deer/Edmonton, and Hope BC. The radiation tests that were taken near Lake Louise BC clearly showed harmful radiation levels up to 1.66 mcSv/hr .

So far Canadian and American authorities have remained silent. We must DEMAND action from local health authorities. If these levels of radiation are being picked up in Canada it seems only a matter of time before they reach the west coast of the United States.

This should be a RED ALERT to all Americans and Canadians! source






We've had a debate going on in another thread in which people attempted to debunk the Fukushima-caused contamination of North-America. I am all but an expert in the field, but this seems to be solid evidence of it.



posted on Jul, 20 2011 @ 02:30 PM
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I am thinking that most of that radioactivity is from natural sources. How dangerous is it? Well, look here and do some conversions.
www.blackcatsystems.com...



posted on Jul, 20 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by randyvs
I've been saying it for sometime now. This was the elitist back up plan to the failure of the swine flu. They simply roll the dice enough til they come up craps. I'm on the west coast tasting metal every fricken day. I've noticed you even get used to it after awhile. Give it a year at the most. I won't be posting any longer then that I imagine.
The economy the radiation ? Somebody wants to thin the herd. That would put a crap full of deaths right around what time in history? Oh that's got to be a coincidence ? Riiiiight.

What the hell ? Things could always be worse.
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Yo randyvs,
Here is my link to my safe water supply unit that I made myself. Radiation proof, no. Heavy metal proof, Yes.
Stay thirsty. www.abovetopsecret.com...
Back on topic.
As soon as I had heard of the Japan Nuke Disaster, I began recommending to my friends, staff and crew, both at Edwards AFB, Beale AFB and here, to start taking Iodine supplements. Many are available at local health food stores.



posted on Jul, 20 2011 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by Jim Scott

Originally posted by Aeons
My children's chances of having babies with mutations has been drastically increased for the want of a government that dictated a SINGLE FRACKING DIESEL GENERATOR at a nuclear plant with six reactors and a secret weapons program at it.

The hate I have for the arrogant gorilla brained "leaders" of business and government over this issue is deep. This industry has proven they cannot be trusted in anyway to regulate themselves.

I am not anti-nuclear. I am anti-stupidity. This disaster is PURE stupidity.


I could be wrong, but I think the Bechtel Corporation is a big player in building nuclear power plants. I hope that, if that is the case, their engineers have made enough safeguards to prevent this from happening. Of course, we are always in a learning curve. Nuclear power is a great idea, it just needs better safeguards. www.bechtel.com...
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Agreed, TPTB know that it is the cheapest way so far to produce electricity. We now cheap is not what they want. Nuclear power in the long run, with proper safeguards, it is the best alternative that we have.
S4U

ps, wtf 2 your cat?? Very sad.
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posted on Jul, 20 2011 @ 11:28 PM
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This just sums up so much I barely know where to begin.

It's the firm belief of folks everywhere isn't it? And it's so totally and completely WRONG.

1. It's not inexpensive. In fact when you take in the whole lifecycle from mining to decommissioning and storage plus subsidies and construction costs it's the most expensive power there is. On top of this it is not sustainable. It is based on a limited resource, uranium which is already reaching peak.

2. it CANT be managed well. Humans ARE NOT CAPABLE of doing this. We THINK we can. Nuke engineers and physicists are so entranced with the challenge and potential they can't see the futility of their actions. It's an irresistible sexy siren calling them... "if only we [insert fashionable solution here] it would make it totally safe". Eventually all foolsafe systems outlive the fools. The crime is in underestimating the power of these mini-suns we are creating on earth and how they will outlive us and our entire civilizations.

Why are these two things so difficult to grasp? BECAUSE THE MATH IS SO COMPELLING, the REWARDS AND NEED SO GREAT. We must begin to see beyond this chimera and find solutions that sustain themselves. There ARE other alternatives, they just need the development focus and incentives nukes have been feeding off for years.

edit on 20-7-2011 by Wertwog because: goofy Tepco... those silly boyz.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 04:03 PM
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