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'Intolerant' Christians are more militant than Muslims, says equality chief

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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 05:32 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask
 


Sorry, racism isn't the correct word but the meanings the same..

To you guys, ALL Muslims are Terrorists..
Instead of "racist" try "culturalist". That is your complaint, isn't it? That they posit the British culture is superior to islamic culture. Personally, I would posit that "western culture" is generally superior to "islamic culture" with a few glaring exceptions like feticide being legal for example.




posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by The Old American

Originally posted by guessing

Religion is the enemy.

People are the enemy. There are other ideologies much more dangerous than religion.

And which are those?


Christians lack the courage to blow up people who are innocent in the name of god

Any one who blows up people in the name of god is a coward and mislead.

First you say Christians are cowards for not blowing people up, then you say people that blow up other people are cowards? Let us know here: do you want Christians to gain the courage to blow people up, or do you want Christians to be cowards and blow people up? Either way, it looks like you want them to blow people up. See, I can do circular reasoning, too.

No you can not, its a conudrum



Who committed genocide on the American Indians?

Well, it started with the American Indians, moved on to the Spanish, traveled to the English, shot left to the French, and took a nosedive to the Dutch.

Followed up by?



Who committed genocide on Australian Aboriginals?

Prisoners at the penal colony?

learn baby learn....



Who burnt witches at the stake?

Ignorant idiots.

yes



Who invaded lands and murdered thousands and thousands and thousands of innocent people in the name of Christianity?

Greedy, powerful idiots.

sounding familiar yet?



Who still invades and kills innocent people by the thousands in the name of christianity?

Nobody in the last hundred years or so. Only one major religious group, in the last 50 years, has committed atrocities on a large scale in the name of their God.

Nobody?... ooops, please refresh your brower....



Think very carefully before you post on this topic.....

very...


One could ask the same of you.

/TOA


Ok.. still thinking



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by kro32
So if one Muslim is a suicide bomber the whole Muslim population must be bad? He is saying that Muslim community's are trying hard to fit into a modern society which I have no doubt they are. I'm really not seeing much wrong with his article and you are definetly taking things a bit out of context.


...one Muslim?

Table 8b. Number of Muslims in listed countries who believe suicide attacks to be justified in (at least some, at most any) circumstance:

Egypt Turkey Indonesia Pakistan Jordan Nigeria
53 26 28 22 57 69

Table 9. Are Suicide Bombings against Americans and Westerners in Iraq Justifiable?

Country Justifiable Not Justifiable DK/RA
Turkey 24 62 14=100
Pakistan 29 56 15=100
Lebanon 49 41 10=100
Jordan 49 43 8=100
Morocco 56 40 4=100
Indonesia 26 67 7=100


source: 2005 Pew Report, quoted here: faithandwar.org

MEQ Report: 81% of surveyed mosques in the US promote violent jihad.

Source: loonwatch.com

Number of Jihadist attacks since 9/11, worldwide:




And, at the risk of "taking things out of context"...

some UK stats:


Poll, March 2004 - 13 percent support terror attacks on the US.

Poll, July 2005 - 6 percent support terror attacks on Britain. 13 percent have "a lot" of sympathy for the attackers.

Survey, Feb 2006:
16 percent of British Muslims support suicide bombing in Israel.
7 percent of British Muslims support suicide bombing in Britain.

Survey, July 2006:
16 percent of British Muslims support the "cause" of the London bombers.

Survey of British Muslims, Channel 4, Aug 2006
24 per cent agreed or tended to agree that the 7/7 bombings were justified.
45 per cent think 9/11 was carried out by the US or Israel.
36 percent said they wanted Sharia law in the UK.
Half said British people who insult Islam should be arrested and prosecuted.
Almost 80 per cent said those who published cartoons of the prophet Mohammed should be punished.

Survey of British Muslims, Channel 4, June 2007
24 percent of British Muslims deny that the four British Muslim suicide bombers carried out the 7/7 attacks.
24 percent of British Muslims believe the British government carried out the 7/7 attacks.

Poll of British Muslims, Jan 2007
37 percent of young British Muslims want Sharia law in Britain.
36 percent of young British Muslims think apostates should be killed.
13 percent of young British Muslims said they "admired" Al Qaeda.


I could go on (and on, and on)... but my point? Anyone who tries to claim that militant muslims are an insignificant minority is kidding themselves.

edit on 20-6-2011 by Awen24 because: added text at the end of post.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

Originally posted by guessing

Originally posted by Jocko Flocko
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Please, leave the "what christians did a 1000 years ago" argument at the door. It's used far to often and does not give credibility to your argument. We are talking about the modern age and modern day society, not what some Spanish Conquistador did in South America ages ago. I don't judge either religion for what they might have done ages ago during religious wars; both religions are responsible for some pretty barbaric garbage back in the dark ages. However, this is 2011 and I hold mankind at a much higher standard than I do a bunch of uneducated ancient relgious warriors of the past.



Pity you, I mean this.

Mankind has not changed , only become more savy in evasive tactics.

You deny your genes and your heritage?... cough....

Up until 30 years ago there was a bounty on Aboriginals....

Like I said , educate yourself before you comment , or you will be humiliated in this discussion.



No ones been humiliated except for the appoligist in this thread who make weak arguments to down play the action of extremist......

The other posters are right......actions taken thousands of years ago do not justify today........

other religions have evolved while this one is stuck in the bloody past
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some will downplay...some will exploit

some will provide facts..

some will judge, some will not

which are you?



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 05:51 AM
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If youve read my post then you should know that answer all ready.......


Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answers.........

Trying to be cryptic and mystical wont prove your point



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:03 AM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by guessing
 


If youve read my post then you should know that answer all ready.......


Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answers.........

Trying to be cryptic and mystical wont prove your point


No effort on my part to be anything. I read your post....

so.....

edit to add, I have no point to prove....

pointing achieves no thing


edit on 20-6-2011 by guessing because: edit to add, I have no point to prove....



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:11 AM
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Yes, the extremists are not a tiny minority. They make up significant portion of the population, and its not a surprise considering they often make up majorities in the countries immigrants come from:


en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by Maslo
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Yes, the extremists are not a tiny minority. They make up significant portion of the population, and its not a surprise considering they often make up majorities in the countries immigrants come from:


en.wikipedia.org...


challenge you to find out how many islam innocents have been killed since 9/11 by the west....


good luck!



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:30 AM
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Actually if you look on slayers threads,or simply google..... you can see some of the numbers of that too.......

Muslims have killed more muslim innocence then "christians" have since 9/11

nice try tho



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack
To you guys, ALL Muslims are Terrorists..

To muslim apologists ... there aren't any/many terrorists in Islam.
They are all 'freedom fighters' or they are pushed into it by the west.
There are no admissions that Islam itself promotes violence.
There are no admissions that Islam itself spread at the point of a blood soaked sword.
There are no admissions that Islam itself terrorizes and degrades women.
There are no admissions that Islam itself is anti-freedom of thought and religion.
There are no admissions that Islam itself dumbs down a billion people in the world.

'Intolerant' Christians are around, but they are few and far between and they are held in check by secular laws. In so called 'Muslim' countries, that is not the case. The muslim courts and the Shar'ia laws that inspire and run those courts push ignorance as the rule of the land - women can't drive or they are whipped - homosexuals are hung in the public square in Iran and with full approval of the law - a sick woman can't go to the doctor and dies because a male member of the household isn't there to escort her to the doctor - etc etc etc So-called Muslim countries are a prime example of why we need a secular rule of law in the world.

Islam itself terrorizes muslims. I wish freedom upon the poor muslims stuck in Islam.
It's gotta' be a horrid way to live. I feel badly for them.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
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Actually if you look on slayers threads,or simply google..... you can see some of the numbers of that too.......

Muslims have killed more muslim innocence then "christians" have since 9/11

nice try tho




ok seems no one is prepared to go out on a limb..

I will.

first google search shows this.....

muslim deaths



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:39 AM
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Originally posted by guessing

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by guessing
 


Actually if you look on slayers threads,or simply google..... you can see some of the numbers of that too.......

Muslims have killed more muslim innocence then "christians" have since 9/11

nice try tho




ok seems no one is prepared to go out on a limb..

I will.

first google search shows this.....

muslim deaths



hmmm very interesting, I like how there numbers are so broad......12k -32k? Seriously thats a huge gap, youre telling me they couldnt get a a closer number? hmmm sounds to me like a bunch of B.S.

Also it DOESNT state who they were killed by.........it just said DEATHS......how many of those you wana wager were by suicide bombers hmmm?



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

Originally posted by guessing

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by guessing
 


Actually if you look on slayers threads,or simply google..... you can see some of the numbers of that too.......

Muslims have killed more muslim innocence then "christians" have since 9/11

nice try tho




ok seems no one is prepared to go out on a limb..

I will.

first google search shows this.....

muslim deaths



hmmm very interesting, I like how there numbers are so broad......12k -32k? Seriously thats a huge gap, youre telling me they couldnt get a a closer number? hmmm sounds to me like a bunch of B.S.

Also it DOESNT state who they were killed by.........it just said DEATHS......how many of those you wana wager were by suicide bombers hmmm?


I like how no one can come up with some definate statistics.

makes broad seem broader...

I'ts all a bunch of B>S... maybe you have got my point, not that I had one....



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by guessing
muslim deaths


That's funny! "WHY THEY HATE US .... "


THIS is the real reason they hate us .... " Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

Islam hates non-Islam. PERIOD. They need no excuse other than "Islam" to hate others.

Islamic terrorism ins't new - Islamic Incessant Terrorism . Read 'Why I am not a Muslm" by Ibn Warriq. It's a fantastic book on Islam. The only reason there are 'Muslim countries" is because Islamic terrorism forced them to become Muslim. The fact that "Muslim countries" even exist is proof of Islamic terrorism.



edit on 6/20/2011 by FlyersFan because: fixed quote



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:49 AM
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When was the last Baptist lady you seen strapping herself with explosives and blowing up a tube train? When did you last hear a Catholic call for the beheading of the "Infidels"?


Provisional Irish Republican Army

Anti-abortion violence

Christian terrorism
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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by guessing
muslim deaths


That's funny! "WHY THEY HATE US .... "


THIS is the real reason they hate us .... " Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

Islam hates non-Islam. PERIOD. They need no excuse other than "Islam" to hate others.

Islamic terrorism ins't new - Islamic Incessant Terrorism . Read 'Why I am not a Muslm" by Ibn Warriq. It's a fantastic book on Islam. The only reason there are 'Muslim countries" is because Islamic terrorism forced them to become Muslim. The fact that "Muslim countries" even exist is proof of Islamic terrorism.



edit on 6/20/2011 by FlyersFan because: fixed quote


and like your opinion, my opinion is the same, christians are intolerant,

just the flip side



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:51 AM
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Well, I see we have moved from lunacy to the realm of science fiction. This is nothing more than a politically correctness run amok.

I would suggest the guy draw a picture of mohamed and see what type of reaction that gets him from the less violent muslim community.

Draw a picture of Jesus and see what the Christian response would be.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:53 AM
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www.nytimes.com...

The United Nations said that 2,777 civilians were killed last year, and that 75 percent of the casualties were due to attacks by the Taliban and other insurgents rather than coalition forces.


Majority of the dead civilians (75%) are killed by insurgent attacks, rather than by coalition forces.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:54 AM
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challenge you to find out how many islam innocents have been killed since 9/11 by the west.... good luck!


Its war, innocent people die. The correct question is, how many christians SUPPORT killing innocent civilian muslims? Except in backwards African countries, not many, I think. While among muslims, the numbers supporting killing innocent people are often very high.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by Maslo
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challenge you to find out how many islam innocents have been killed since 9/11 by the west.... good luck!


Its war, innocent people die. The correct question is, how many christians SUPPORT killing innocent civilian muslims? Except in backwards African countries, not many, I think. While among muslims, the numbers supporting killing innocent people are often very high.


Thank you for bringing some reality to this lopsided table.

Christians from my experience are just as ignorant as muslims. So both sides may support something they believe in, as long as they believe in it... its all good. But.. if you do not believe in what they believe... may god help you...

They can have it all as far as I am concerned even if they do not really know what it is they have or want.

There is no winners or losers, just bigots







 
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