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"Controlled Demolition at WTC 100% Impossible" Article by Jonathan Moseley

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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 02:55 AM
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"Countless eye witnesses accounts proving they ALL knew it was going to collapse shows that a demo was NOT NEEDED because demos happen in seconds and without warning"


Eyewitness 1: "That building's going to collapse"
Eyewitness 2: "Is that a warning?"
Eyewitness 1: "Nope"
Eyewitness 2: "Then what is it then?"
Eyewitness 1: "I don't know"

hmmmmm?




posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 03:05 AM
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cop out, you have no direct point. I win.


No ya don't mate..
I had points that you refused to address..
I'm done playing games..

I simply chose NOT to feed trolls..
It's what ATS tells us to do..



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 04:00 AM
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Worst thread ever!! Epic Fail!!
Way to many stupid mistakes made by TPTB around WTC7 for you to even have an argument!

BBC news reporting the callapse 20mins before it did!


Silverstein deciding to pull comment!!


All the evidence of a CD on video you posted in your deffence
The reason they are telling people to get out of the way that building is coming down is because they KNEW it was coming down!!...This is not possible to do unless it was planned!!

Collapse of a building at FREEFALL speed is impossible without lots of knowledgable help!!



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by NIcon
reply to post by SkepticAndBeliever
 


"Countless eye witnesses accounts proving they ALL knew it was going to collapse shows that a demo was NOT NEEDED because demos happen in seconds and without warning"


Eyewitness 1: "That building's going to collapse"
Eyewitness 2: "Is that a warning?"
Eyewitness 1: "Nope"
Eyewitness 2: "Then what is it then?"
Eyewitness 1: "I don't know"

hmmmmm?



I already said I meant the witnesses who had nothing to do with the supposed "controlled demo" would had no warning, unless you are implying they were ALL in the conspiracy and blew the lid on national TV HHAHA ya right what a joke of a claim that is. I hope truthers are playing a sick joke on us all don't don't actually believe this bunk.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by SkepticAndBeliever

Originally posted by NightGypsy
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Selected columns on floors where explosives will be set are drilled and nitroglycerin, TNT or C4 are placed in the holes. only a few floors are rigged with explosives, so that it is safer (fewer explosives) and less costly.




so from that entire post only this is what actually counts - the rest is for buildings that are supposed to be coming down and are totally irrelevant

fail



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 06:47 AM
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didnt you already start a thread about it being impossible? Im confused... You must not have any emotion or sub-conscious. I feel the way you continue to be this anti-9/11 non os believer hitman.. I may have to suggest you may be a sociopath



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by SkepticAndBeliever

There were explosions in the basement before the plane hit.



Please try to make sense here. There should have been SO many detonation cords or else how can there be a "controlled" demolition? How would be be controlled? ask yourself these questions.



Ask yourself some questions...

Do you really think that detonation chords would have survived what a plane and its blackbox did not? I would hope not. Remember, the black boxes (which are supposed to be able to be able to survive) were never officially collected. So if something meant to survive harsh situations did not, how is it logical to assume detonation chords, which are just electrical signal carriers, could survive? Also there are methods of wireless detonation. Or, do you think that only Russians with airbags could possess this mythical wireless detonation tech, see video for reference.



Originally posted by SkepticAndBeliever

Originally posted by joeym1991
Not a good thread. I wonder who wrote all that? can you provide who it was? He probably dosen't know all the facts.



And that's based on what? Explain how a controlled demolition is possible when the only way to control is demo is by using detonator cords (how else would you?). There would have been SOOO much evidence of detonation cords if there was anything remotely CLOSE to a CD that happened, and they would have stretched out for BLOCKS. controlled demo not possible.


Truth be told, anyone can go out and fabricate a wireless detonator. Do you think you, or me, or anyone is smarter than the specialists?
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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by SkepticAndBeliever

There were explosions in the basement before the plane hit.



And what would be the point of detonating explosives and causing explosions and HOUR before the towers collapsed, when a demolition only takes a few seconds? Please try to make sense here. There should have been SO many detonation cords or else how can there be a "controlled" demolition? How would be be controlled? ask yourself these questions.


I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but your insistence that demo cords would have been found at the scene is grossly optimistic. Do you know how many MILES of electrical, data and communications wires ran through those buildings? I’ll give you a clue, it was over 10,000. I know the site was suppose to be treated like a "crime scene" but that rubble wasn't picked over with a fine tooth comb. Not to mention, no one was looking for demo cord since everyone was convinced the planes took the towers down. I would venture to say most people there, cleaning up, or search and rescue, couldn't tell demo cord from the endless piles of CAT 5 everywhere. So, in all that mess, a mile or two of demo cord would have never been found or even noticed. Nice try.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 08:54 AM
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Every piece of that building was searched by the FBI. Look up PENTBOMB.

Now, this has always been the argument that comes up but there is no evidence to supply. NONE....

1. There is NO evidence of a CD visually or acoustically.
2. There is NO evidence of thermite being used, and just so you know, thermite needs something to initiate the reaction so there would be evidence left. Also, you CAT5 comparison to demo wire is laughable. The people who were there onsite are trained for such and would know the difference.
3. Not one cap. Not one blasting cord.
4. If this was a professional demolition, they would not have been paid as the building did not fall into their own footprints which is what is done. There was damage to multiple buildings including WTC7.
5. Many of you are stating since you believe thermite was used they would not have to cut all the columns.
That is what it is used for, to cut columns, but you contradict your self in you answer.

I would bet 100 bucks also that no more than 3% of you read the article. If you did, you might learn something.
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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:02 AM
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first off John Molseley is a D*** @$$, he obviously wants to help the PTB cover this up. All I gotta say is read this. www.911proof.com... This proof right here should be tattoo'd on Moseley's chest, and back, and then it should be illegal for him to wear a shirt.

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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by esdad71
Every piece of that building was searched by the FBI.


That's like saying "every part of that crime scene was thoroughly searched by the suspected murderer, who found no wrongdoing." Did you even think before posting?


Originally posted by esdad71
1. There is NO evidence of a CD visually or acoustically.


Building 7 was a CD, the visual evidence is the video of it dropping like a CD. Wow that was easy.


Originally posted by esdad71
2. There is NO evidence of thermite being used


Except for the raging molten metal burning for weeks at the base of the towers, unexplainable by jet fuel alone?


Originally posted by esdad71
, and just so you know, thermite needs something to initiate the reaction so there would be evidence left.


Evidence conveniently shipped overseas ASAP. Truly amazing how fast they got rid of the evidence.


Originally posted by esdad71
4. If this was a professional demolition, they would not have been paid as the building did not fall into their own footprints which is what is done. There was damage to multiple buildings including WTC7.


Building 7 was its own CD and is the smoking gun for all of it, as no planes hit it, and half a day of fires cannot cause and have never in human history caused that kind of absolute collapse of a building. NEVER.

Oh, and it's hilarious that you think that the people that perpetrated one of the worst mass-murders of the American people would "not be compensated because some of them fell a bit crooked." You should do stand-up!



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:21 AM
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Just for the record from someone that actually has experience (extensive) with steel structures, shape charges, and det cord...

detonaton cord is PTEN and is itself a highly volitile explosive, with a burn rate of about 4 miles per second!

It literaly explodes; you would not have found much of it left after the demo.

It is NOT an "electrical cord".

And please everyone;

Building 7 did not actually come down at "freefall speed", it initiated it's collapse at "FREEFALL ACCELERATION".

The bottom 4-8 floors of building 7 were "removed" ALMOST instantaniously at collapse onset, but the building did meet with a bit of structural resistance through the rest of the perfect "textbook" demolition.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by wildernesswino
reply to post by derst1988
 


Just for the record from someone that actually has experience (extensive) with steel structures, shape charges, and det cord...

detonaton cord is PTEN and is itself a highly volitile explosive, with a burn rate of about 4 miles per second!

It literaly explodes; you would not have found much of it left after the demo.

It is NOT an "electrical cord".


That is why I am a Photographer, thank you for the info. Either way, my point stands that it would not have survived what the planes black box did not (officially) survive. Or, lack of evidence of det chord is not lack of evidence od C.D.


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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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LOL!



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:26 AM
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I am also not ruling out (in my mind) the possible combined use of remote detonators, det cord, and painted on thermate, or any other EXLOSIVE combinations...

MAYBE it IS time for a REAL investigation.

Back to the Ghost Dance



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:26 AM
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9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate




posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:31 AM
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wow,just wow,there is still people working at validating the tptb wonderland story.fire that ravaged the towers inside,lol,it looked llike no fire going on at all.i looked in the windows,lol,nope,no fire.oh i get it,it just concentrated on the steal beams,lol,smart jet fire indeed,delayed ignition and with guided intel.i often wonder if that much jet fuel was present at all.all the rest is a lie why not that? and at entry there was fire,enough to get the rest going before it got to the steal beams weakening the punch.nope not buying it.next,perhaps perfecting the alien snow white story be better.in the forth paragraph of that article there is lies,what does that tell you?
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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:34 AM
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"This requires that each floor must be destroyed separately and individually. . ."

Fail.

According to this guy there was enough weight above the impact zone to make it fall on itself. Sooooooo wouldn't that mean if you just blew up the area of the impact zone, You would have to get the same result?



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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Nothing is ever 100%. The author of that article embarrasses himself by making that supposition in the first place, and then further does so by assuming the perpetrators of said "controlled demolition" cared at all about a perfectly controlled demolition.

Bad thread, and the article is so incredibly obtuse as to invite harsh criticism. You really have to be wary of anyone who starts mouthing off into absolutes and whatnot.
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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by SkepticAndBeliever

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How do you explain all the detonator cords that SHOULD have been discovered but WEREN'T? How do you explain the building standing up after the application of the explosives when the supports had to be weakened for it to work? You only pick out one little detail you don't like while ignoring the other abundance of proof, try explaining ALL the claims.


How do you explain where all of the office furniture went? File cabinets, chairs, computers, phones...where did they go?? I'm pretty sure they didn't all melt, especially on the lower floors. Yet virtually no trace... Remember the firefighter that asked the same question? He said he only found a fragment of a key pad. So, if you think detonator cords should be present, so should the countless chairs, desks, file cabinets, phones, computers, carpet, and anything else in the office space. It seems you're only picking out one little detail yourself. Sorry, but you fail.

Just as others have pointed out about the miles of wire and cable in the building, where is it?

Because there are no "detonator cords" in the rubble doesn't mean they were not there or used. If you go by that logic, do you believe in the Hollow Building theory?? Also, how does anyone know if detonator cords were found? Would anyone expose that info?? The rubble was shipped out ASAP for a reason...there was something to hide.
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