NBC apologizes for cutting "under God" from Pledge of Allegiance before U.S. Open

reply to post by The Old American


I know some people and they don't believe in God but they'll use 'god' in their language followed by a four-letter word meaning 'cursed'.

It's like using the N-word. African-Americans will condemn anyone else for using it but they're free to use it anyway they want. Atheists don't want you to use it but they'll use it freely in their language. This has been my experience.

I don't get it.

reply to post by PieKeeper


State atheism was law in the USSR. Immediately after the revolution, all church property was seized and thousands of priests were killed. From 1917-1928 they targeted all faiths. In 1928 they formed the League of the Militant Godless, which functioned until 1941 as a militant atheist revolutionary guard.

This only changed after the Nazis invaded. The Nazis allowed churches to open back up in occupied territories. Stalin then began to back off on the Orthodox Church. 1943, the Russian Orthodox Church was reestablished.

The other religions were not tolerated. After the war the Orthodox church rapidly expanded, but this was ended by Kruschev, who weakened the church. Only after Kruschev, in 1964, did the USSR finally begin to allow some religious freedom. Protestants would still be persecuted until the 1980s.

Originally posted by WolfofWar
The actual, unedited pledge of allegiance, since pre-1954:

I pledge allegiance to my Flag of the United States of America, and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

NBC is just using the original 1892 version. I see no issue with it.

(besides the point that the idea of a pledge is a ridiculous notion anyways.

They also left out "One Nation". and "Indivisble". So it wasn't the original pledge. I guess we are many nations divided, according to NBC.

reply to post by Signals


This is the first step to Communism. Really not looking good!

Originally posted by Signals


So, this is where politically correct has got us.

The Government controlled MSM has decided God is to "edgy" I guess. We wouldn't want to offend any other groups of people, would we?

I for one am sick and tired of trying to please everybody. This country was founded on Christian principles, like it or not.

I want my God back in the Pledge of Allegiance, a pledge to a once great country, that hopefully one day will be great again.

IF that offends anybody, they can kiss my American butt.

www.washingtonpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Surely your country was CONVERTED to Christianity and Christian principles , I am pretty sure the native americans had there own religion subjugated by the missions........

The word god is dead. It doesn't hold its spiritual value, especially in this updated version of the pledge of allegiance. These days, the word god to me is nothing but a tool for manipulation and people's misunderstanding. When you preach god and christ but internally are not christ-like, you are a hypocrite. Some of you all preach god but have never been one with yourself. Being one with yourself brings you the closest to 'god' in a metaphorical sense. Growing up on firm beliefs that were pushed on you clearly has had its effect, hasn't it? You guys go ape# if someone denounces the word god. When the word is nothing but a WORD! It only holds meaning to those who give it matter. Stop letting yourselves become so fundamentalistic over a word you were indoctrinated with and in my opinion, the majority of you have very little personal understanding of through experience.

Who cares if they didn't say it? It's golf.. its a sport. It's televised to entertain and distract you. To help you escape from your stressful mental environment that has been created and strategically implemented to dull your spirits. You believe you are free, yet you are still sitting there in your safe box still following the system that has caused so many people harm. If you believed something higher and more powerful was on your side, you wouldn't live in fear. Wouldn't you think, as an 'all loving god', this god would be understanding and compassionate? That the fear that is brought out by the religious idiocracy is there to keep you down and obeying to something that certainly isn't this 'all loving god', but to religious factions who emotionally and spiritually manipulate you off your true path and love.

This country was founded on blood, this country will end in blood. If its in the name of god, it's not the god you are thinking of.

reply to post by gambon


And all of Europe was converted/subjugated, the Germans, Slavs, and Celts didn't ask for Christianity. The Muslims subjugated everything between Morrocco and India, tried to do the same in Europe.

Nothing can be done about it. Its not like we can pack Islam back up and send it to Mecca or send Christianity to Jerusalem. Its here, its done, and we have to deal practically with the realities of the present.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by gambon

 

And all of Europe was converted/subjugated, the Germans, Slavs, and Celts didn't ask for Christianity. The Muslims subjugated everything between Morrocco and India, tried to do the same in Europe.

Nothing can be done about it. Its not like we can pack Islam back up and send it to Mecca or send Christianity to Jerusalem. Its here, its done, and we have to deal practically with the realities of the present.

I agree
: I was trying to point that out .

reply to post by muse7

Like it or not
"One Nation Under God" IS part of the Pledge. .

And like it or not barry, the Declaration goes like This:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...
Both should be repeated like they are legaly written.

God over government any day of the week for me.

Not, perhaps, the God you think I know, but rather the Infinite Creator.

Everyone has the freedom to think and make decisions as they wish.

If you don't like it, don't recite it.

Who's doing the manipulating here, what with using kids to pull an international stunt.

Distasteful at best.

Whether we want to believe it or not, faith is one of the ties that bind, it makes people one, and with a common goal,

Strip them of their faith and it will weaken the nation, Just more proof for me that the mass media has players behind the scenes that are pulling the strings, we have been infiltrated, our news media, government and schools.

The politically correct have a god, they just don't want you to believe they do.

They must tear down one belief system to install another.

Originally posted by aero56
reply to post by SeekerLou

 

And that makes what kind of sense? So, we don't know what God we are pledging to?

Not sure what post you are referring to but...

God covers ALL gods..... If you don't know for yourself personally, who YOUR god is, or if you don't have God , you should get some assistance.

reply to post by Signals

I for one am sick and tired of trying to please everybody. This country was founded on Christian principles, like it or not.

sorry.. but it was not..

Here is a quote from Treaty of Tripoli that the founders themselves read & signed...November 4, 1796.

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

so you see, this country was founded, in part mind you, on the principle you have the right to worship whatever Religion you choose to.. but in no way shape or form was this country, as you put it..

founded on Christian principles, like it or not.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS

Originally posted by WolfofWar
The actual, unedited pledge of allegiance, since pre-1954:

I pledge allegiance to my Flag of the United States of America, and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

NBC is just using the original 1892 version. I see no issue with it.

(besides the point that the idea of a pledge is a ridiculous notion anyways.

They also left out "One Nation". and "Indivisble". So it wasn't the original pledge. I guess we are many nations divided, according to NBC.

They also left out "One Nation". and "Indivisble"

Well then that makes my above post just about right on,

Did they really, sheeese how obvious can they get, what were they thinking?

What was their reason?

I would like to hear the whys behind all of this.

Obviously we don't want one nation undivided we want the NWO.

Originally posted by Darth_Prime
Regardless,

The Original 'Pledge Of Allegiance' did not have 'Under God'

www.ushistory.org...

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in August 1892 by the socialist minister Francis Bellamy (1855-1931). It was originally published in The Youth's Companion on September 8, 1892. Bellamy had hoped that the pledge would be used by citizens in any country.

In its original form it read:

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

In 1923, the words, "the Flag of the United States of America" were added. At this time it read:

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

In 1954, in response to the Communist threat of the times, President Eisenhower encouraged Congress to add the words "under God," creating the 31-word pledge we say today. Bellamy's daughter objected to this alteration. Today it reads:

The 'New' Pledge is false anyway,

one nation under God

we are not 'One Nation Under God' we are a Nation of 'Freedom Of Religion and various 'Beliefs' and 'Practices' so you can't sum it all up as 'One nation Under God'

Though I Digress, The 'Original' never had 'God' anyway

For those that missed this, i posted this earlier

Yes, but mostly these earlier beliefs systems were different sects of Christianity,

You ignorant people... You all sit around and "AGHHH they take away our rights, AGGHHHH." Then when the government steps in and takes away the right to say "God", like it is some kind of dirty word you are like, "yea stick it to those dirty war starting Christians." But then when they filter "#" off of "Family Guy" you turn around and bitch about the FCC.

Since we can't say God anymore, think about if they started filtering out the word, "Evolution".

You all are nothing more than a mob mentality no better than the elite.

We been down this road before,

George Washington
1st U.S. President

"While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian."
--The Writings of Washington, pp. 342-343.

John Adams
2nd U.S. President and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God ... What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be."
--Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.

"The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God."
--Adams wrote this on June 28, 1813, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.

"The second day of July, 1776, will be the most memorable epoch in the history of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the Day of Deliverance, by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires and illuminations, from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward forever."
--Adams wrote this in a letter to his wife, Abigail, on July 3, 1776.

Thomas Jefferson
3rd U.S. President, Drafter and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever; That a revolution of the wheel of fortune, a change of situation, is among possible events; that it may become probable by Supernatural influence! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in that event."
--Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237.

"I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."
--The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, p. 385.

to read more.
christianity.about.com...

Originally posted by capod2t
God over government any day of the week for me.

I agree with this, but the importance of separation of church and state remains. The problem isn't with God, but those that worship him. Many whom would love to see other religions and denominations suppressed and their own beliefs pushed through law.

Originally posted by snwboardn21
You ignorant people... You all sit around and "AGHHH they take away our rights, AGGHHHH." Then when the government steps in and takes away the right to say "God", like it is some kind of dirty word you are like, "yea stick it to those dirty war starting Christians." But then when they filter "#" off of "Family Guy" you turn around and bitch about the FCC.

Since we can't say God anymore, think about if they started filtering out the word, "Evolution".

You all are nothing more than a mob mentality no better than the elite.

You make a point I have tried to make before, TPTB are just using the PC mindset to further their agenda once they succeed in transforming the nation, the PC and their police will be shocked to find they are at the bottom of the totem pole, because the new religion will strip away all their rights they have fought for.

Mark my words, I see it, it is happening right before our very eyes if one is aware and has been following world events closely.

They don't even try to hide it any more.